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rit56

join:2000-12-01
New York, NY

reply to pnh102

Re: More Taxpayer Fleecing

so you're in favor then of local governments not granting Verizon tax breaks and sweetheart deals anymore? they should finance everything 100% on their own right? no breaks, no deals, no restricted build outs? .


jhboricua
ExMod 2000-01
join:2000-06-06
Minneapolis, MN

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said by rit56:

so you're in favor then of local governments not granting Verizon tax breaks and sweetheart deals anymore? they should finance everything 100% on their own right? no breaks, no deals, no restricted build outs? .
Of course he's not. Have you seen the thread on NYC FIOS. Over there his outrage is about how 'government is holding progress back' by not letting his master do whatever they want with NYC. Go the Lafayette LUS related threads and he's bashing them too for no reason other than it is not a incumbent deployment but one done by the city. It's pretty clear what his real motivations are, which is why I find it so funny that he comes to this thread to state how this wasted money could have been used for teachers, policeman, etc... it reeks of hypocrisy.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

reply to rit56

said by rit56:

so you're in favor then of local governments not granting Verizon tax breaks and sweetheart deals anymore? they should finance everything 100% on their own right? no breaks, no deals, no restricted build outs? .
You already know the answer to this so there's no need to repeat myself.

What does Verizon have to do with this situation?
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SilverSurfer1

join:2007-08-19

said by pnh102:

What does Verizon have to do with this situation?
That you're a telco shill, of course.

fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
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.. and I agree with him, so I must be a telco shill now too. ... and to think, all this time, I was a Cable shill.

The internet is not something that the tax payers need or should be paying for. It's not cheaper in the long run and if you really wanted to have better internet, as a city planner, I'd be working with the incumbents AND not being loose and irresponsible like everyone else in the past has with them.

When the taxpayer, that's us in case you don't know, put out this kind of money to fund and internet project, AND then you get to pay a monthly rate ON TOP OF THAT for services (which usually aren't much better than the incumbent) and you ALSO get to subsidize the upkeep of the system - how good of a deal was it considering the speeds and services aren't much better, if not worse?

Shill? ok.



jhboricua
ExMod 2000-01
join:2000-06-06
Minneapolis, MN

said by fiberguy:

The internet is not something that the tax payers need or should be paying for.
Your personal opinion.
said by fiberguy:

It's not cheaper in the long run
And this blanket statement is based on?
said by fiberguy:

and if you really wanted to have better internet, as a city planner, I'd be working with the incumbents AND not being loose and irresponsible like everyone else in the past has with them.
You obviously have never worked in such capacity if you think you can make such an absurd statement.
said by fiberguy:

When the taxpayer, that's us in case you don't know, put out this kind of money to fund and internet project, AND then you get to pay a monthly rate ON TOP OF THAT for services (which usually aren't much better than the incumbent) and you ALSO get to subsidize the upkeep of the system - how good of a deal was it considering the speeds and services aren't much better, if not worse?
Pulling more fluff our of your rear I see. But we expected nothing less from industry shills. Go ahead and tell the Utopia users their service isn't much better than Qwest DSL. Just duck when they snort your way.
said by fiberguy:

Shill? ok.
Looks like it.
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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." - Albert Einstein
Jose A. Hernandez * System Admin * MPLS, Minnesota, USA *

fiberguy
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Where do you buy your talking points? or.. does it come with your membership dues to the utopia society?

Besides, hasn't your side always been against subsidies for the telephone company? .. and that IS a utility. But, since it's something that YOU deem to be a necessity, you'd be ok with handouts from the public?

It's always nice to bring hypocrisies to the forefront.

Thanks, but I'll spend my money that way I see fit.. not the way you, and others, do. You want internet.. pay for it. I'll continue to pay the $42 a month for my 8/1 line I have now and not $42 or more for a lesser service and then all the taxes tacked on to the top so some government agency can tell me what kind of content I can or can't view which governments in CA have already tried not including the libraries.


SilverSurfer1

join:2007-08-19

reply to fiberguy

said by fiberguy:

.. and I agree with him, so I must be a telco shill now too. ... and to think, all this time, I was a Cable shill.
Actually, I stand corrected. You aren't a shill as shills tend to occasionally have original thought processes. You clearly demonstrated that you don't have that ability here. You're just another follower who swallows any load big business rams down his throat.

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