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RadioDoc
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Re: Law trumps Contracts

Nice rant when it applies to renters, but this also applies to subdivisions, condo associations and co-ops where the end user is not a renter. In many cases the fees are built into the monthly maintenance charges ("condo fees") and opting out is not an option. In those cases the end user is being forcibly led to market whether they want to use the services or not.

Your bias against renters clouds your logic. I know people who have rented their abode for far longer than many owners stay in one house. One has outlasted three landlords.

You say that in most HOAs the streets are still public. That is a false assumption. Most gated communities (for example) have private streets. Otherwise they would not be able to gate themselves off...
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fiberguy
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Doc,

My "rant" about renters stands. Renters do not have the same rights as home owners no matter how long they have rented. You pay rent for 30 years and walk away, you still have nothing.

I stated that for home owners on public land, I disagree with a contractor making decisions for me that last a long time for their own gain - which they are.

You also assume that all HOA's are gated, which they are not. I've lived and owned two houses in an HOA where there was no gate and the roads were public streets. Additionally, you can still have an HOA on public streets and apply for gated community status in some areas.

I also stated that most HOAs, single family, are on public streets and not necessarily gated.. is that a fact? Maybe not.. but in the areas I've lived, it has been. Bar that, it's not important. The point was defining the difference between a renter and a home owner.

With that still said, when you live on a common grounds situation, in a condo complex, you still don't own the land around outside your walls and I do agree that those agreements DO stand. The owner of that HOA benefited from those agreements of past so for any of them to cry foul would be guilty in cheating the provider who wired the place for free. If the contract is voided by the FCC, then the original amount should also be retro active and billed back to the owners (HOA included) ... let's then see how fast people are willing to see them invalidated.

RadioDoc
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I made none of the assumptions you attribute to me. Therefore there is no reason to reply to your allegations. I stated examples in opposition to the blanket statements you made and I stand behind them as posted. The additional information you provide makes no sense.
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