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gattaca
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join:2003-05-28
USA

reply to quatrix

Re: And people keep claiming bittorrent isn't primarily pirating

said by quatrix:

Yeah, and maybe if the government gave more handouts then criminals wouldn't rob liquor stores. Must be the government's fault.
Regardless of your stance regarding the legality of file sharing, the industry needs to stop thinking of P2P and BitTorrent as the enemies and start thinking about them as competition. They have to settle for the fact that they'll never be able to stop P2P - they'll have to compete.

I'll gladly pay a reasonable fee to download DRM-free content to my computer rather than muck around in BitTorrent or Usenet. I want to support artists. The industry just needs to be more reasonable regarding their pricing and use of DRM.
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openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

reply to grandpinaple
Obviously the writers and producers are getting more than zilch, or else they wouldn't be writing and producing. The writer's strike is about obtaining a cut of the revenue stream from the studios providing online content. It's a relatively new revenue stream. The writers were already getting their cut for traditional broadcasts and distribution mechanisms.

I welcome a day that consumers deal directly with artists (which can work for content such as music and books), but I don't see it happening for larger productions that truly cost money to produce...like high quality movies. How will George Lucas continue to make his millions if piracy runs rampant in illegally distributing his movies? What's his motivation to continue making movies?



swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia

reply to fAcEtIOUs
"And people keep claiming bittorrent isn't primarily pirating"?? Seriously? Can you cite examples where anyone makes that claim?

I think a lot of people have pointed out that there is a significant amount of non-infringing content on bittorrent - not that it's a majority.


grandpinaple

join:2006-01-03
New York, NY

reply to openbox9
Movies will always make money. I used the George Lucas example to illustrate situations where a large capital investment is required. Movies like Star Wars would merely sell for more and if they didn't sell enough, well then I guess the product shouldn't be on the market. Episode two made plenty of money though and this is in the bitorrent hay day. It's not like anyone who is going to use bitorrent isn't already using it (because the probability of getting caught is so low) and the companies don't make money off of the lawsuits and make relatively little off of the settlements in the case of their blackmail tactics.


Warez_Zealot
Rural land of the rising sun

join:2006-04-19
japan

reply to fAcEtIOUs

said by fAcEtIOUs:

said by Warez_Zealot:

said by fAcEtIOUs:

I think that "PIRATE Bay" being the biggest torrent tracker says a lot about the bogus claims that bittorrent use isn't primarily used for pirating(coyright infringement) music and videos.
Maybe if they offered content at the price of 10 cents a song or movies at like $2 - $3 dollars people would pirate less. If they can move more quantity and charge less instead of charging more and selling less they would still make a lot.

Anyways, guaranteed half they stuff downloaded is deleted right away after they realize the content is complete garbage.
How about for free:
»ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gUiU···8UE4GC82
Qtrax, which makes its debut Sunday, is the latest online music venture counting on the lure of free music to draw in music fans and on advertising to pay the bills, namely record company licensing fees.

Qtrax downloads can be stored indefinitely on PCs and transferred onto portable music players, however.

The service, which boasts a selection of up to 30 million tracks, also promises that its music downloads will be playable on Apple Inc.'s iPods and Macintosh computers as early as March.
Copy to music players OK, but can't copy to CDs.
»technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol···4556.ece

Guess it's vapourware. Back to BT.

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