BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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Re: razr
Are you serious ?
Manufacturing is the issue not the mobile designers.
One point in case , the Moto E815 , a rock solid handset made in central China , the same same plant that made the pebl (which I own 2 of as well as the e815 and wish verizon would carry). These phones are rock solid performers and the failure rates were below 1% which is really a feat all in itself.
Most motos are made in coastal china with cheaper parts and cheaper labor. That is the real issue. The same issue plaguing other makers except LG who makes it all in Korea.
The failure rate of even the iphone is up near 9 % but they have very tight quality control and they barely ever leave the factory.
Also take a look at who was the chipset owner in most cases. Those phones that bombed constantly were almost all GSM and almost all coastal china assembles , where the pay is horribly low and they don't care about quality just quantity.
Moto makes some damn fine phones. The UI needs some work , but the hardware is some of the best and toughest you can find. Look at the Nextel lines. All moto and some of these absolute toughest phones I have ever seen. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | Love my E815, awesome reception, tolerates many falls, and keys haven't snapped yet. Although its sad the power connector doesn't have a bridge rectifier (playing around with broken charger tip), had to buy a new phone. |
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shaner
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join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB
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Don't get me wrong, Moto does make some damn fine phones. When they work, they are easily the best phones on the market. The problem is, they have a very high failure rate, and every model has a consistent issue with that one particular model. Voice quality and feature set is hardly ever the issue, its other junk. Screens on the RAZR series go blank a lot. They also crack more easily than other thin phones. Battery charging has always been an issue with Moto's. Their older proprietary charging port on phones like the e815 was junk, and would stop working period. The new usb design is good, but batteries aren't holding a charge as well anymore.
And I just have to mention one of my Moto pet peeves; arrogance. They try to move certain proprietary stuff on their handsets in the vain belief they're better than everybody else. Up until recently, Motorola was the only manufacturer who put the send key on the right and end on the left, completely opposite of every other phone on the market. Drove me nuts.
I could go on and on, but like I said, if they wanted to stick to designing phones, I'd be okay with that.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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| I would tend to agree... I've had Moto gear back when the menus were cr@p, but the phones were built well:
Moto Star Tac/Micro Tac (AMPS/CDMA)
Moto Timeport P7382i (GSM 1900) build in Germany!
I still use my Moto V505, and I do like the V3xx
House phone: cordless Moto
Positives:
Design has improved
Audio quality is good
Standardized USB charger (why can't all phones use this!)
Phones are great for Modding
Negatives:
Overall physical durability/reliability has gone down
Can be paired with a bad network (AT&T GSM) to make you think the phones are bad.
I personally disliked the 'accidental' ringer change settings on the side... too many missed calls.
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