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Rick
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Personally..

rather than fighting or opposing something like this..
what should be the issue is the way the arbitrator is selected.

The system itself is not a bad system. It's a great way to fight back against an out of control legal system that awards people 20 million bucks for a spilled cup of coffee. And that winds up costing us ALL money because those verdicts get passed along in the form of price increases.

There is nothing wrong with having a neutral party decide something without getting bogged down in the courts that are supposed to do just that..but somehow have turned into circus's instead. The issue is WHO is it that decides it..how are they selected..and is their decision far often than not one sided. What the system should allow for is a fair way for the arbitrator to be selected to insure they are neutral and not taking sides with anyone upfront.

I don't know how comcast or any other company does it..but that should be the point of all this IMHO..and not fighting against a system that can work for everyone if properly administered.
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karlmarx

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Re: Personally..

How can you possible use the phrase 'not taking sides' when the aribitrator is paid for by the megacorps. Look at it this way, if any company found AGAINST a megacorp, they would lose their contract. Ergo, the arbitrators will ALWAYS side with the megacorp, because the megacorp pays their bill!
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druber

join:2000-04-11
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Re: Personally..

sheesh, that's exactly what he said! he was saying that arbitration is not fundamentally bad, it's how the company has it done.
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Re: Personally..

said by druber See Profile :

sheesh, that's exactly what he said! he was saying that arbitration is not fundamentally bad, it's how the company has it done.
And that is the problem. Arbitration has become nothing more than a legal way of buying off the judge.

If Comcast hired an arbitration company and found a majority of the cases against them, you would see that company losing the contract and Comcast can shop around for a judge who will know which hand feeds it.

nipseyrussel
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join:2002-02-22
Philadelphia, PA

said by Rick See Profile :

a great way to fight back against an out of control legal system that awards people 20 million bucks for a spilled cup of coffee.
a) i'm sick of hearing about this. first of all the award was under a million dollars (and actually ended up in a secret settlement). secondly, this was not about spilling coffee, this was about mcdonalds knowingly heating coffee to unsafe temperatures despite the fact that they knew that people were being harmed by it and that many places are able to sell perfectly acceptable coffee at much lower temperatures.

b) why the hell do i have to input the "Date When You Received the Welcome Kit or the 2007 Arbitration Notice" in order to opt out????? i'm sure they put this there as a barrier to actually going through with this.

IT Guy
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Re: Personally..

b) why the hell do i have to input the "Date When You Received the Welcome Kit or the 2007 Arbitration Notice" in order to opt out????? i'm sure they put this there as a barrier to actually going through with this.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Who cares when we received the notice? The fact that IT WAS RECEIVED should be enough.
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nipseyrussel
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join:2002-02-22
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Re: Personally..

does anyone know if not knowing this or putting the wrong date in causes a problem with this? i'll try this later when i can find my bill (need my account number - but have no idea if/when the notice was sent)

IT Guy
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Re: Personally..

Well, I logged on to my Comcast account and they do offer downloads of your previous bills. I think mine went back as far as March 07, I had transfered my account when I moved back in October and amazingly had some bills from my previous account (despite the fact that instead of transferring my account, they terminated it and I had to call them to reactivate it, that's twice in a row that Comcast failed me on the exact same issue.) However, the online bills didn't display any terms on it. But I did copy and paste my account number directly from my Comcast online account (for those of you having problems with the opt-out site saying your number is invalid, you may want to try it).

So... Long answer short. I really don't know if not entering the exact date you received the notice makes any difference, I just entered the date of the first bill I received after transferring my services. Maybe it's a legal loop-hole for them if you didn't enter the correct date.
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said by nipseyrussel See Profile :

does anyone know if not knowing this or putting the wrong date in causes a problem with this?
IIRC, the notice in your bill said that you had to reply within 30 days from when you received it. So might use it to disregard opt-out requests where the date is more than 30 days ago.

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Frivolous lawsuits get thrown out as such. If you believe some case should not have been heard and damages not awarded go be a judge and a jury. Meanwhile stay away from my rights to sue those mega corporations that are lobbying to get the tort reform laws passed.
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