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LaZ3R
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Anyone surprised?

These companies have died out so I wouldn't really be surprised nor care if they "disappear."

Not worthy of a in my opinion .
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en102
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I agree.. I don't really expect any of them to dissappear.
Qwest will say where it is due to regulatory reasons.
Sprint may fragment off its Xohm business. It needs some $$ to do a decent WiMAX deployment, and its stock is currently in the toilet. A Sprint/Alltel merger would be good.
AMD - Its still deploying cheaper chips than Intel. It just needs someone on the mass scale (like a Dell) to help push sales.
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Dogfather
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They (AMD) have Dell.


en102
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Most of my server stuff gear up being Intel.
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Sammer

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reply to en102
said by en102 See Profile :

A Sprint/Alltel merger would be good.
IMHO Verizon Wireless does have the cash and would bid up the price just to keep Sprint from getting Alltel. A Sprint/Alltel merger won't occur unless Alltel's owners think Sprint is willing to pay significantly more than Verizon Wireless would.


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Most of my server stuff gear up being Intel.
May be true, but what Carbidyne was saying is that Dell DOES sell computers with AMD processors in 'em. And IMHO if THAT'S not enough to keep them afloat, they're doomed no matter what.


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Yeah, that's what I meant. And I believe that Dell ended up sending back a large number of unsold processors to AMD which is what hammered them last quarter.

If AMD is to survive they need to return to their budget roots and sell price per dollar instead of all the over-hyped Phenom BS. IOW, be the bridge between Intel's Core processors and Via/Cyrix.

Compete with Celeron in the sub $1000 PC market and call it done. They will never come up with another "Slot A Athlon" that can dethrone Intel strictly on performance at the rate they're going. Intel is too far ahead.


Sr Tech
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reply to LaZ3R
Not at all, funny thing is that Yaesu got some high profile selling radio to NYC and Motorola apparently started to look into merger.

Things have been quiet at Motorola, but I am curious about the Merger that was to take place, but Motorola and Samsung it is a possibility.

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As for Sprint which did not know how to manage the Nextel system because greed of Foresee was present in only becoming a notch higher on the belt of having more customers. And now is killing what was a great company and definitely in trouble as layoffs are looming. I would be surprised if Sprint would be able to acquire anyone, but maybe the layoffs are part of putting yourself in a better position of being able to go after something else.

And life goes on....
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N3OGH
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Merging with NextHELL was the death of Sprint.

Nextel had a fantastic product back in the 2000-2002's. Then, all hell broke loose.

Nextel is a cursed company for some reason.

When Sprint ate Nextel, they got Nextel's disease.....
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BillTager

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Sprint had plenty of its own ailments long before Nextel came along.
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Camelot One
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reply to Dogfather
Its not just the CPU though. They used to be enthusiest friendly, and the nvidia IGP boards were an extreme value for the money, when it came to a general use or media player box.

Then they turned their backs on the overclockers, started in with Intel style hype (over nothing), and bought nvidia's only competitor.
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N3OGH
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said by BillTager See Profile :

Sprint had plenty of its own ailments long before Nextel came along.
To be honest, I didn't pay much attention to Sprint before the merger and I was a Nextel customer at the time the merger went down.

Towards the end of my Nextel contract, I was counting the days until I could get out. That was about 3 years ago. Nextel had become nothing short of a train wreck. Customer service was beyond agonizing, the phones would constantly "reboot" and lose connection. Using direct connect was like walking into a closed door in the dark.

One of my employers still uses Nextel for car to car communications. The service is so un usable, most of the time we carry our personal cell phones and contact each over via the same. The only reason we even sign the Nextels out is the chief tells us we have to. Other than that, they go mostly un used over the course of a shift.

I'm sure Nextel has SOME satisfied users, but every time I try and DC someone at work and get that agonizing "user not available" tone I thank God I've left Nextel squarely in my past...
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NOCMan
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reply to en102
Sprint has screwed up big time.

Analysts have suggested a proper WiMax backhaul network within the larger cities could save Spring up to 20 billion dollars in backhaul fees. They never went for it for some reason. WiMax can provide a fault tolerant non line of sight backhaul network for cellular calls.


en102
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reply to Sammer
Verizon Wireless purchasing Sprint would be similar to AT&T purchasing T-Mobile... they compete in the same markets.

Alltel is primarily rural CDMA 1x/EVDO
Sprint is primarily urband CDMA 1x/EVDO

Verizon wireless typically covers a lot of Sprint/Alltel footprint. Verizon Wireless would try and be a spoiler to any deal between the 2. Also, Alltel most likely wouldn't want anything to do with Sprint's Nextel.
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Kearnstd
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AMD wasted money on ATI imo. and if AMD goes down and ATI doesnt spin off it will take the only Competition to Nvidia with it.
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JakCrow

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reply to Dogfather
"Slot A"? You're a few years behind there. Up until Intel came out with Core 2, Intel was badly behind the curve. AMD is currently in the position Intel was with the end of the P4, lame excuses for dual core CPUs. It is because of AMD that Intel finally realized that Mhz wasn't the only measure of CPU power. Intel isnt too far ahead, though AMD needs to dump or fix Phenom soon or that will be the case. The last thing we need as customers is for Intel to be the only performance CPU maker.


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reply to LaZ3R
AMD has some big problems. They aren't likely to survive much longer without some radical changes.

I kinda like the idea of IBM picking up AMD. Doubt it will happen, IBM has been moving away from products and into services for awhile now, but, IBM and AMD have collaborated in the past.

I really don't want to see AMD fold up and we be left with Intel as king for CPU's and Nvidia as king for graphics cards. That just means we'll get taken for a ride on computer hardware, like the past....
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JakCrow

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reply to en102
Sprint ruining another company would not be 'good'.

patcat88

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reply to en102
Alltel was a better target, since they have lots and lots of area that isn't overlapped with Verizon Wireless. Remember, if Alltel+Verizon Wireless in same area, no GSM in the area (Alltel runs GSM for roamers in some areas, inherited from one company they bought). Only chance of GSM is urban Tmobile/Cingular on 1900, which always means bad to no reception in rural areas.

Alltel was taken private I belive, it can't be bought anymore.


tc1uscg

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reply to JakCrow
said by JakCrow See Profile :

Sprint ruining another company would not be 'good'.
What company did they ruin? Surely your not thinking it was Nextel? You know, the company that lied to it's employees that everything was ok while is on the brink of bankruptcy while it was bleeding money left and right with no end in site. The company who was already having issues with it's network interfering with public service spectrum and having the FCC tell them they needed to buy other spectrum and move or risk loosing everything. Naw.. it couldn't be that company.
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