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Re: Why the MacBook Air is "misunderstood"
said by neuronbob  :Now wait a minute. People in this very forum have been asking for YEARS for an ultralight laptop without an optical drive. Now we have one and people are complaining? I don't get it. I spoke positively about a non-hard drive iPod. Many people here though it a crazy approach. Now, I bought the iPod touch, and it's a marvel. Next Apple notebook with go flash only, mark my words. Unless you said this already, in which case you are right. BTW, I saw this laptop at my local Apple store. It's just beautiful.
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said by yanks :the XPS M1330 is better looking than the MacBook (yes there is a PC that is nicer looking than a Mac!) Not. Even. Close.
The problem with most PC design is that the designers have no taste. (In at least some cases, clearly, neither do the users.) The only recent ones I've seen that look halfway decent are the Sonys... that blatantly rip off the Apple look. Good original design? I'm just not seeing it.
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said by bbarrera : I found it quite snappy compared to my Mac mini with 4200rpm drive. . Snappy, but quite a bit slower....
»www.macworld.com/article/131864/···ml?t=201
said by Authority :said by NOCMan :I have not misunderstood it. It's a toy. I think you have. The people who would buy this don't want to "open it up" or know/care what a PATA hard drive is. They do on he other hand thing an extra $500 is a small price to pay for something that looks cool and saves them a few ounces in their travel bag.
You've really proven my point, people who don't "get" what it's for will hate it.
I agree that some people will actually find the Air useful and that it does have a place, but you can't deny that a good many are going to buy this just because they think it's cool. |
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1 edit | said by Maranello : but you can't deny that a good many are going to buy this just because they think it's cool. And that is a problem because...?
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| said by Mauricio9 :said by Maranello : but you can't deny that a good many are going to buy this just because they think it's cool. And that is a problem because...? It isn't. It's just every time someone has referred to it as a toy a great chorus of voices rises from the valley and simultaneously shouts "you don't get it".
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I think the MacBook Air is cool. I think it costs a lot of money. I think they'll sell a shitload of 'em. It's not for me. I think it's the start of things to come. I think it will get faster and cheaper and be able to do more in the very near future. Then they'll sell an even bigger shitload of 'em. It's getting Apple a whole lotta free press (advertising). Those Apple guys seem to be pretty smart about that.
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I read that review before going to the mall and expected the MBA to be slow compared to my MBP. But after launching a few apps it seemed fine. Just re-read the Macworld review and noticed this:
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"But for general uses, I rarely noticed that the system was slower than my MacBook."
Source: Macworld review of MBA
»www.macworld.com/article/131864/···air.html
There is no doubt the compromises made on the MBA will limit the appeal and market.
For the stuff I do on a daily basis every notebook is 'a toy' which is why I'm selling my MBP and buying a Mac Pro. And the MBA will be the perfect traveling computer for my needs as I'm not attempting to make it a desktop replacement. |
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1 edit | reply to NOCMan
said by NOCMan :I have not misunderstood it. It's a toy. I think you have. The people who would buy this don't want to "open it up" or know/care what a PATA hard drive is. They do on the other hand think an extra $500 is a small price to pay for something that looks cool and saves them a few ounces in their travel bag.
You've really proven my point, people who don't "get" what it's for will hate it.
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| If I didn't have a newish notebook, I'd hold out for whatever this thing becomes in about a year and a half. What would make it a "must have" if it gets no heavier (and yeah, I can feel an extra 3 lbs. on my shoulder after walking a few blocks):
-much, much larger flash drive with a 1.8" HD to "back up" the flash or give you additional temporary storage
-optical drive (read-only is fine); supposedly there are some new models that are even slimmer than the current laptop drives
-ethernet
-FW + more USB - capturing short clips from a video camera to flash seems like it would be handy and light on the batteries
-either built-in evdo or some kind of recessed card slot for a 3G modem of some sort - "cool" is having a 3 lb. laptop that can get high speed internet just about anywhere.
-proper cooling, hopefully intel will have some cooler and faster processors by then
-one extra bizarre apple "first"
I'd go near $3K for that (must have a ton of flash though). |
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this comment is directed to both sides of the misunderstood argument..
after playing with this thing for a few hours.. I believe it is the..
BEST BATHROOM LAPTOP OF ALL TIME..
I do not regret spending 2k on this at all...
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| said by jmirabella :BEST BATHROOM LAPTOP OF ALL TIME.. LOL, reminds me of the Seinfeld "The Bookstore" episode where George takes a book into the bathroom. |
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said by jmirabella :BEST BATHROOM LAPTOP OF ALL TIME.. I do not regret spending 2k on this at all... I think I'd shoot myself if I gunked up a $2-3k laptop full of bathroom unknown materials.
...besides, that's what $300 PC lappies are good for. Sure it's 3 pounds heavier, but you won't feel terrible when you torture-test that laptop into unusability in the odd places/tasks around the house. |
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| said by Thaler :I think I'd shoot myself if I gunked up a $2-3k laptop full of bathroom unknown materials. I think you'd have bigger problems than buying a laptop if you can't control your "functions" while seated.  |
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| said by BellBoy :said by Thaler :I think I'd shoot myself if I gunked up a $2-3k laptop full of bathroom unknown materials. I think you'd have bigger problems than buying a laptop if you can't control your "functions" while seated. Problems can go hand in hand. I think I'd have a hard time controlling my "functions" if I had my MBA fail due to bathroom problem inevitibilities.  |
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said by sporkme :What would make it a "must have" if it gets (and yeah, I can feel an extra 3 lbs. on my shoulder after walking a few blocks): -much, much larger flash drive with a 1.8" HD to "back up" the flash or give you additional temporary storage -optical drive (read-only is fine); supposedly there are some new models that are even slimmer than the current laptop drives -ethernet They already have what you want... it's caleld a MacBook and available in black or white. Everything you're asking for misses the point on what it is. It's supposed to be a "think client" with with to access network resources, and for that, it's fantastic. Judgeit by any other criteria and it fails miserably.
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I have been over on the dark side with my portable computer life for quite some time, two fujitsu subnotebooks (P2 and P5 models) and a thin and light sony sz I hated before I got it (this is another story). I have been waiting for the Air for a long time and I guess I expected more from Apple. It is a beautiful piece of industrial engineering but it uses slower processors and weighs more than the fujitsu, sony, and toshiba subnotebooks. I expected Apple to come in with a product that clearly outclassed the competition in more than its operating system and it did not do so. The 13.3" screen is better than the 11.1" screens on the competition but the keyboards are comparable.
OK, so I am rambling (and yet I won't edit...). If I have use it or use it money, I might by the Mac Air because I have been waiting for it for a long time (I always work on the go and I travel all the time). If I don't, I hope apple gets the sequel right. |
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