gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
4 edits | [Vista] Access denied to My Documents
This has happened a couple times in the past, and then it will magically let me in.
I was recording a sound-bite and saved it to my documents, want to check the recording, Access Denied!
I rebooted and logged back in, same thing happens.
Vista 64 Ultimate
I'm trying to open it in Windows Media Player and it doesn't see it. What a crock, gonna have to boot XP to open a dam file 
!, XP wont open it either.
When I rebooted back to Vista after XP wouldn't open it, I was able to access the folder. So I open windows media player to burn it on a CD, it copy's it over, but it wont close the session as a mastered CD. Vista is retarded.
Oh yah, the windows media player still doesn't recognize the file if I try an open it from the open dialog, I had to drag it.
I got it to close the session, all I had to do was eject the CD. RETARDED  that a 30 second sound file takes so long to get from the Mic, to the CD. |
|
Cudni
La Merma - Vigilado
Premium,MVM
join:2003-12-20
Someshire | you are looking in the wrong place, try under C:\Users\Your user name\documents
Cudni |
|
gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
1 edit | You are incorrect, and I'm not going to tell you why Figure it out
Hint- dual boot |
|
Cudni
La Merma - Vigilado
Premium,MVM
join:2003-12-20
Someshire | reply to gaforces
because you edited the image 
Cudni |
|
gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA | Comon, those images are original post equipment you can do better. |
|
Cudni
La Merma - Vigilado
Premium,MVM
join:2003-12-20
Someshire | I can and you can do better too What do the permissions say on those folders?
Cudni |
|
gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
| They are the standard default permission setting, never been modified. One of the problems I suspect is from Nero 7 and the .wma file extension attributes. It's not expected behavior (for me) to have the windows media player not recognize or even see files in a directory. |
|
Cudni
La Merma - Vigilado
Premium,MVM
join:2003-12-20
Someshire | reply to gaforces
any more clues in eventviewer logs?
Cudni |
|
gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
| Ok, I'm sorry, looks like we are better on track now, thanks for posting!
I will check through event viewer logs, the aforementioned problem with Nero 7, I updated it from the internal updater and it failed to un-install the previous version, so there were 2. I now realize I need to start over and try and somehow un-install nero 7 while the updater is going, or something  The Nero software has the codecs for my dvd player.
I've heard there were some incompatibility's with nero 7 and vista 64. I know they want to probly sell me nero 8 but funds are short ... I'll check it out at the nero site support.
--
‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
Solon |
|
gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
1 edit | reply to Cudni
OK, I think I've traced it in event viewer logs, the first symptoms seem to be that it went into hibernation when I used the media center remote function in the wee hours of the morning.
After that user profiling service says :
- System
- Provider
[ Name] Microsoft-Windows-User Profiles Service
[ Guid] {89B1E9F0-5AFF-44A6-9B44-0A07A7CE5845}
[ EventSourceName] profsvc
- EventID 1530
[ Qualifiers] 32768
Version 0
Level 3
Task 0
Opcode 0
Keywords 0x80000000000000
- TimeCreated
[ SystemTime] 2008-02-02T19:28:26.000Z
EventRecordID 11019
Correlation
- Execution
[ ProcessID] 0
[ ThreadID] 0
Channel Application
Computer Jenny
- Security
[ UserID] S-1-5-18
- EventData
Detail 1 user registry handles leaked from \Registry\User\S-1-5-21-2790759175-2997993316-2670559337-1000: Process 896 (\Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\svchost.exe) has opened key \REGISTRY\USER\S-1-5-21-2790759175-2997993316-2670559337-1000
Theres several of those, and errors from my UPS not starting after hibernation. Then it seems that windows decided my hardware changed, and started the 3 day timer to go into reduced functionality mode. 
Is there any specific event you would like me to look for?
--
‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
Solon |
|
XweAponX
join:2006-10-07
Spring Valley, CA
2 edits | reply to gaforces
said by gaforces  :You are incorrect, and I'm not going to tell you why Figure it out Hint- dual boot What do you mean? Is this a Windows XP Documents and Settings folder?
It does not matter, Under XP the folder will be accessible, but under VistS***, you will not be able to get in there. Unless you are me.
No, ahah, what I mean is, you can get permission to get in there my using the security tab and giving the administrator of the system. I'll post some images
Oh Yah: I wanted to explain exactly WHY it is a very very very very BAD idea to have a Vista/XP dual boot volume. If you try to cram XP and VISTS*** into the same volume they will compete with each other.
Better to have either 2 partitions or 2 separate drives, and use Paragon Disk Manager, activating the Boot Manager.
I would suggest using Acronis Disk Director Suite, but the OSS director DOES NOT detect Vista. But Paragon's Disk Director does. Both programs are great, but the Paragon can easily be set up to show a BOOT screen where you choose your boot volume.
Vista is insidious enough, in that it reaches over to other volumes in your system and installs that damn "Boot" folder that cannot be deleted by XP, not even in safe mode.
I had to make a bootable disk with several OSses on it just so I could delete that folder in my XP installation.
Anyway, right click on the Documents and Settings "Link" under Vista's Window Explorer... Select SECURITY.
In the security tab go to where you change owners, and tell it to giver ownership to "Administrators" - NOT AdministraTOR, but the Plural.
Then when you click that link it will bring you to to the place where it stores those files.
I think having those "links" in the Vista File System (that are locked) is BAD design- I went in there, on my other Vista installation, and I forced it to give "Administrators" ownership of ALL of those links. I hate folders that I do not have permission to get into, I do the same in XP and Windows 2000 as well. |
|
gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
1 edit | said by XweAponX :said by gaforces :You are incorrect, and I'm not going to tell you why Figure it out Hint- dual boot What do you mean? Is this a Windows XP Documents and Settings folder? It does not matter, Under XP the folder will be accessible, but under VistS***, you will not be able to get in there. Unless you are me. No, ahah, what I mean is, you can get permission to get in there my using the security tab and giving the administrator of the system. I'll post some images I was making the sound file in Vista, had problems getting access, then I tried xp that ye can see in the pic that it failed too. I was finally able to finish the operation after I rebooted vista a 2nd time.
I shouldn't have to mess with permissions to access my documents, and usually, I don't. Seems to be a problem with hibernation.
--
‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
Solon |
|
XweAponX
join:2006-10-07
Spring Valley, CA
1 edit | reply to gaforces
Well... You ARE running Vista AND XP on ONE Volume is that correct?
I would correct that if I were you... I tried it once, it was a very Un-Fun configuration.
Uh... What program were you using the edit the Sound File?
I use Sonic Foundry Sound Forge 6, but Vista hates it. |
|
gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
4 edits | No they are separate SATA drives. In my pic here, the D: drive is the xp, C is Vista.
When I boot XP, the Vista volume shows up as J. L is my data disk.
I used Vista Boot Pro to setup the boot manager when I setup the fresh xp on the other raptor drive, I labeled it so I could identify it easier on the xp install.
It's a done deal, don't need any imager programs, it's all built into windows I mean that from either the xp or vista setup disk or even in the windows environment I can format and partition a drive.
I formatted that D: drive as one partition and labeled XP Pro 2008 in Vista, booted the xp pro cd and installed it on there, I copied the 3 xp boot files to the root of the vista drive and walla the boot manager gave me the boot options
Then I used Vista Boot Pro to set the boot manager back to the vista version. |
|
XweAponX
join:2006-10-07
Spring Valley, CA
1 edit | reply to gaforces
Well, ok that IS odd.
I have the same setup here: Are your drives an array/partitioned or totally separate?
Even though I have my OS's installed on separate 160 GB drives, I never run Vista while I have the XP drive in, and the reverse also. I have an External SATA cable connector on the back of all my PCs that have Sata...
That way, I just switch to the drive I want to boot from before I start up. There is probably a better way of doing that.
The reason I started removing the XP drive from the PC while running VistShi*, is cos Vista keeps writing all kinds of stuff to the MBR of the drive.
I would try to boot my XP drive and it would tell me that there was no OS.
To fix it you got to boot off the XP disk and hit the first R you get to... And they use FixMBR and Fixboot.
It took me 5 years to discover those commands, cos I was always doing In Place Installs, and In Place installs Eff Up XP- Now, I use it as a last resort.
I have an Athlon system here, that has the original XP I ever installed, from before SP1, and now it has SP3. Runs beautifully.
But my XP Media Center edition which I run on the same PC as Vista, got corrupted by Vista.
Eventually someone will develop a better Boot Manager that will keep Vista from seeping, dripping, and ooooozing over into XP partitions.
Vista just does Too Much Stuff. XP can be set to not do anything to your data drives- Vista can't, or at least I can't figure out how, it always changes the contents of all drives, it drives me nuts, its a complicated cluster-f.
Ok, so, the Documents and Settings folder that you can't get at? It's on an XP partition, and Vista will not let you get INTO it, is that right?
Try setting the permissions so that "Adminstrators" own it under Vista... This shoudl not change the ownership values in XP.
And shut off any services in Vist-Sh** that make changes to your XP drive.
Finally, and this is what I do anyweay: I never ever ever ever Never, ever, save my work on a system drive: I always have Data drives, on this heap, I have a 500 GB Mirrored and striped array, cos it is faster than the separate drives. I also tell XP and Vista and my editing programs, any program that edits data, if it is music or photographs or Video Footage: I never let the work be done on my system drive, I always have a separate scratch drive with nothing on it. I have a few Pro Tools and Sonar projests that have 32 tracks plus a whole bunch of effects running all at once.
Keepo it like that and you won't have permissions problems...
(Poop, now this post is a tome, I didnt intent it to be a tome, sorry!) |
|
gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
| The drives are all separate, I used to use raid 0, but no longer as it wasn't really worth the trouble, and AHCI SATA drivers give me pretty good access times and throughput.
It only denied me for a little while, it's fine now after 2 reboots. |
|
XweAponX
join:2006-10-07
Spring Valley, CA
1 edit | reply to gaforces
Sorry for the double post!
quote:
I used Vista Boot Pro to setup the boot manager
Its built in to VistShi*? Where? Or is it some add on proggy?
Hah: Glad you got access. Vista has to be taught who the master is. Takes a while to do that, we got to lerarn how to kicks it's arse, like we did XP. |
|
gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
4 edits | Vista Boot Pro is separate program I found out about on the software forum here but cant find now. Anyways it's at »www.pro-networks.org »www.vistabootpro.org/
Be careful with it, you can hose your system if you don't copy the 3 required files to boot.
You have to manually do that part as it doesn't, what it does do is force the Vista Boot Manager after you load xp.
I think the authors of the program use English as a second language so it's a little confusing on the instructions, takes a little bit of knowledge of windows and translation skills |
|
