Creating Limited User Account on Win XP in Security

Creating Limited User Account on Win XP in Security http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19931195 en Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:54:31 EDT Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:54:31 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19952772 angussf :

said by altermatt

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Aaron Margosis is a MS consultant who is "the" name in successfully running as user vs. admin for daily tasks, and has quite a few good resources (including a nifty "make me admin" utility to temporarily run as admin, more flexible than even "run as") to help you over the humps.

I've been running as a limited user with a "MakeMeAdmin" window open in the background for when I need to do things like re-assign drive-letters for a new USB drive (they always ignore my mapped drive letters ;-() or update Spybot S&D or Spyware Blaster. You learn the command lines to start DiskMgmt or SS&D -- and my long-standing habit of installing everything to 8-letter directories under C:\Programs makes this a lot easier to do.

Biggest difficulty is that your admin-level cmd window does not have all your mapped network drives.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19952772 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:59:41 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19952616 cleal : Since you're on XP Pro and not Home, you might consider taking a look at a demo version of Beyond Trust's Privilege Manager at »www.beyondtrust.com/. The demo version is free for use on a single computer. It is a Group Policy extension that allows you to grant administrator privileges on an as-needed basis to applications or processes that require it. If the docs are not clear enough, don't worry, as the intended audience is big company IT guys.

You also can sign up for a webinar and follow along on the screen as they explain how to use the Group Policy Editor to, for example, allow limited user accounts to add or delete printers.

Once you set it up you don't have to go back to admin user unless you have to make real changes like add or delete applications, etc.

Among the entities that have allowed them to print their name as customers are Dept of Defense, U.S. Air Force, Treasury Dept. etc.

AFAIK, XP Home does not have Group Policy enabled so it's not able to be used where it's most needed.

It's also useful for creating a limited functionality administrator account. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19952616 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:35:39 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19948573 AB :

said by Anon2008 :

I tried using a limited user account, but found the frequent switching to admin annoying and time consuming, so abandoned the idea.

I'd find that annoying too. So I rarely do it.
Anyone 'needing' to switch back and forth all the time either has unique computing needs, some thing or things improperly configured, or a wrong approach, imo.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19948573 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:52:18 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19948505 anon : I tried using a limited user account, but found the frequent switching to admin annoying and time consuming, so abandoned the idea.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19948505 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:39:52 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19947398 HA Nut : I use a Limited account for nearly all of my email and web surfing. For most everything else, I use my Admin account. (I don't use Fast User Switching.)

Most everything I do has already been covered. One thing I did that made tweaking the permissions setup much easier was to add the Security Tab to my Home version of XP. See Doug Knox's link below for more info. (Highly recommended for XP Home!)
»www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_home_sectab.htm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19947398 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:37:44 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19946212 Name Game : For all the geeks..here a two tools that come in handy..

AccessChk v4.02
By Mark Russinovich
Published: September 4, 2007

AccessChk 4.02 security tool that shows you what accesses users have to files, registry keys and services
Introduction
As a part of ensuring that they've created a secure environment Windows administrators often need to know what kind of accesses specific users or groups have to resources including files, directories, Registry keys, global objects and Windows services. AccessChk quickly answers these questions with an intuitive interface and output.

»technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysi···922.aspx

AccessEnum v1.32
By Bryce Cogswell
Published: November 1, 2006
Introduction
While the flexible security model employed by Windows NT-based systems allows full control over security and file permissions, managing permissions so that users have appropriate access to files, directories and Registry keys can be difficult. There's no built-in way to quickly view user accesses to a tree of directories or keys. AccessEnum gives you a full view of your file system and Registry security settings in seconds, making it the ideal tool for helping you for security holes and lock down permissions where necessary.
»technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysi···332.aspx
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said by come on will you :

what's the worst thing that can happen?

Why clueless noobs still don't get this amazes me. There are many thousands of compromised computers being used, without their owners permission, as bots for purposes ranging from DOS attacks to running Asian porn servers, and all the user thinks is every once in a while "Gee, my computer's running a bit slow". The ones hijacked to call 900 services are the lucky ones, as they see the results on their next phone bill; others are used for years without their owner's knowledge.
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said by HahahLOLOLOL :

Make people jealous? Nah. I am a reformed XP user too. If I can push even one person into the light of open source, my duty is done! ;)

I agree *nix isn't for everyone. If all you can do is point and click, *nix isn't quite there yet (but has made huge strides in the last few years).

Sorry for hijacking the thread. ;)

You can hijack them anytime. ;) You can even post in that other Board in the sig and get help with *.nix..it is not a money making proposition..just people helping people like the ture open source theory...where all can point and click their way into the light.
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said by come on will you :

what's the worst thing that can happen?

that you are not even aware it is happening

Cudni
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Thanks! I see now what you're saying about adjusting the accounts...I'm going to play around with this and see what transpires.

Much appreciated!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19937194 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:51:43 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19937087 anon : I've been running as Admin. since day one, never had a problem. This forum is always bragging how good this program is and how good that program is. I guess you don't trust your programs to protect you. It would be a cold day in hell when I would be forced by being paranoid to use a Limited User Account.
The funny thing is if you don't have credit card, banking info etc etc on you machine, what's the worst thing that can happen?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19937087 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:04:48 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936939 anon : NamGame said:

Oh I know..you are so right.. nix is wunderbar..cool games and video..rich full applications..great programs..loads of free stuff..and with it you can even post in threads about WinXP and get everyone jealous.

HAHALOLOL says:

Cool games, sorta. This is perhaps THE only advantage Windows has. And that's only because game manufacturers wont port the games. There are still emulators you can run to make Windows games work, but I would rather play games on the OS they were intended for.

Rich full apps, absolutely. Go to you tube and take a look at Compiz-Fusion, the 3D desktop. Much better than Vista with more features.

Loads of free stuff, the best part. Take a look at the repositories for any major distro. Every type of software for FREE. The best pat of that is that you don't have to fool with AV software, it isn't needed (but is available if you wish to be super paranoid). The only reason *nix people use AV is so they wont infect Windows machines. For someone using *nix as a client machine, and not a server, AV is simply superfluous.

Make people jealous? Nah. I am a reformed XP user too. If I can push even one person into the light of open source, my duty is done! ;)

I agree *nix isn't for everyone. If all you can do is point and click, *nix isn't quite there yet (but has made huge strides in the last few years).

Sorry for hijacking the thread. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936939 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:49:13 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936669 Name Game :

said by hahahaLOLOLOL :

Oh now I see, namegame, you run a security website. It figures that you want to tout the "security" of XP and Vista because you (or whoever runs that site) lose business otherwise. ;)

Hard to sell AV software if people use Mac or *nix isn't it? Hard to have security issues to blog about unless Windows remains the topic. Windows, afterall, is the bastion of security. I suppose that's why they recently hired a noted Linux developer to come help them with security.

Here is a snippet from your site:

"Bugs in the ActiveX controls on popular social networking sites Facebook and MySpace can be used by hackers to snatch control of Windows PCs, security experts said today."

Funny, I don't have to worry about such pests on my *nix box.

Oh I know..you are so right.. nix is wunderbar..cool games and video..rich full applications..great programs..loads of free stuff..and with it you can even post in threads about WinXP and get everyone jealous. :)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936669 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:50:14 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936437 AB :

said by La Luna

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I dunno, I thought the concept of a thread topic title was rather easy to comprehend.

As I comprehend it, the topic of this one is 'Windows vs. Linux, and what that means to the controlled user environment. A discussion in two parts'.

Just kidding, of course.

I agree. That discussion is for another thread, or for the thousands of other threads currently logged in the DSLR archives.

S'mores do rool, though. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936437 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:24:19 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936424 redwolfe_98 : in another post, i read that converting an administrator account to a limited user account will result in some of the "permissions" in the now-limited user account not being what they are supposed to be, so i don't think that switching an administrator account to a limited user account is a good idea.. i also don't see a need for doing that..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936424 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:20:49 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936405 La Luna :

said by AB

said by La Luna

:

. . The OP didn't ask anything about using "*nix" (how cute,*) or for a recommendation for a different OS. :uhh:

. . Is that a problem, Luna? ;) :D

I highly recommend S'mores, btw. Far superior to Oreos, and not as much stuff gets stuck in your teeth.

I dunno, I thought the concept of a thread topic title was rather easy to comprehend.

I could be wrong though.

I'll be sure to check out those S'mores. :D
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936405 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:15:14 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936389 AB :

said by La Luna

:

. . The OP didn't ask anything about using "*nix" (how cute,*) or for a recommendation for a different OS. :uhh:

. . Is that a problem, Luna? ;) :D

I highly recommend S'mores, btw. Far superior to Oreos, and not as much stuff gets stuck in your teeth.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936389 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:12:26 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936375 La Luna : What does any of your nonsense have to do with the topic, other than to create a problem? The OP didn't ask anything about using "*nix" (how cute,*) or for a recommendation for a different OS. :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936375 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:08:31 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936354 La Luna :

said by scelli

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Is it possible to import things like my current desktop settings, program start menu etc. so that they would appear the same in a LUA? I'm aware I will not be able to utilize certain progs where admin privileges are required if signed in as a limited user. In other words: do I have to manually re-build the stuff in the LUA so it looks like my admin account?

You don't have to import anything. As AB

said, create a new admin account (to take the place of your current one, there must be one admin account, which you will need to use on occasion), and then change your current admin account to a LUA in Control Panel>User settings. Everything will be saved as it is. The only difference will be is with the permissions.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936354 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:04:46 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936253 alfee : Good tip AB.Really makes it easy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936253 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:43:42 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936247 AB :

said by scelli

Maybe I'm not clear what you mean-- but if you turn your current Admin. account into a limited one after creating a new Admin. account, you basically need change nothing, in the scenario I was referring to.
All of your current Registry and personal settings are already in place-- they're just now in place under limited user rights rather than Admin. privileges.

"Joe" is now a limited user, rather than an Administrator-- he's been demoted, but gets to keep his same desk, phone number, computer, and paperwork. :)

There might be a setting or Registry value or two that retains Admin. privileges-- sort of a quirk of Windows-- but I don't think it would be much you'd need to concern about.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19936247 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:42:43 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19935689 anon : Oh now I see, namegame, you run a security website. It figures that you want to tout the "security" of XP and Vista because you (or whoever runs that site) lose business otherwise. ;)

Hard to sell AV software if people use Mac or *nix isn't it? Hard to have security issues to blog about unless Windows remains the topic. Windows, afterall, is the bastion of security. I suppose that's why they recently hired a noted Linux developer to come help them with security.

Here is a snippet from your site:

"Bugs in the ActiveX controls on popular social networking sites Facebook and MySpace can be used by hackers to snatch control of Windows PCs, security experts said today."

Funny, I don't have to worry about such pests on my *nix box.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19935689 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:01:12 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19935644 anon : Funny, my Linux box comes multi-user capable out of the box. Nothing to configure. Simply enter your root password and your user password and you're done. Further, you can add and delete users in about 30 seconds.

These guys on the forum you list must be using some sort of true *Unix* server/enterprise OS. I know they aren't using the more popular BSD and Linux variants.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19935644 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:54:05 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19935534 Name Game :

said by LOLolLOLHAHA :

Requirement of administrative privileges to run certain programs dampens the chances of providing a limited user with greater flexibility. With the Service Pack 2 now integrated with this, it is now one of the most advanced secure operating system till date and assures you of the highest level of protection whether browsing or working online / offline.

Bahahahaha. I am rolling (literally). Any time I hear the words Microsoft, OS, and secure in the same sentence I laugh. Whenever I hear someone say XP is the most secure OS in history, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. It's sad some people believe this.

It's funny that Microsoft has just now caught onto multi-user computing, while Unix has been doing this since the 1970's. Way to catch up with the times, Microsoft, you're just 30 years and 2 billion security breaches too late.

Yup..having a get out of jail free card..is just another roll of the dice. ;)

»www.unix.com/unix-dummies-questi···hts.html

»www.unix.com/unix-dummies-questi···dge.html
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You will only be able to alter files as a limited user that you have created as a limited user.
If you have a lot of files currently created as Admin. (personal data, etc.) that you want to be able to modify as a limited user, the simplest way to make the adjustment is to create a new Admin. account, then once that's done, change the old Admin. account to a limited account.

Voila! The files still "belong" to the same user and so can be modified at will, only now that user is a limited account user.

And for XP Pro, that also cuts down on the number of 'permissions' changes you might need or want to make.

*Edit- sp]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19935286 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:04:25 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19935117 anon : Requirement of administrative privileges to run certain programs dampens the chances of providing a limited user with greater flexibility. With the Service Pack 2 now integrated with this, it is now one of the most advanced secure operating system till date and assures you of the highest level of protection whether browsing or working online / offline.

Bahahahaha. I am rolling (literally). Any time I hear the words Microsoft, OS, and secure in the same sentence I laugh. Whenever I hear someone say XP is the most secure OS in history, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. It's sad some people believe this.

It's funny that Microsoft has just now caught onto multi-user computing, while Unix has been doing this since the 1970's. Way to catch up with the times, Microsoft, you're just 30 years and 2 billion security breaches too late.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19935117 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:40:12 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19933825 scelli : Thanks altermatt and everyone else as well! I now must read and digest all of this good info in order to implement something. :)

Much appreciated, folks! :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19933825 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:13:02 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19933732 altermatt : Aaron Margosis is a MS consultant who is "the" name in successfully running as user vs. admin for daily tasks, and has quite a few good resources (including a nifty "make me admin" utility to temporarily run as admin, more flexible than even "run as") to help you over the humps. His blog is at »blogs.msdn.com/aaron_margosis/default.aspx and there you'll find not only tips and techniques, but links to other resources (for instance, look at the bottom of the left hand nav bar).

I can only add that this is WELL worth doing, and with "run as" just a shift click away, really not much of a pain. I strongly disagree with some of the info in one of the previously posted links that "most programs require admin. rights"---I've found VERY few, and most of those are easily worked around. You do need to install programs originally as admin. (since that usually requires registry access), and once in a while have to specifically allow your user access, though that's not common. Some AV and other programs require you to be logged on as admin. to update, so do that once a week or so (my Symantec Corporate AV updates just fine from a user account), and MS updates need you to be logged in as admin., so do that manually on Patch Tuesdays (or a few days after if you want the bugs out ;)).

And as Name Game said, if you run into any problems, post here and you'll surely get quick help. This is one of the top suggestions for security that I make to new users, and unfortunately, one that meets a lot of resistance.
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are you using win xpsp2-home or win xpsp2-pro?

i am running win xpsp2-home.. the trick for me was seeing how to adjust "permissions" for files and folders, in win xpsp2-home..

with win xpsp2-pro, adjusting the folder and file permissions is not too difficult, but, with win xpsp2-home, in order to access those settings, you have to boot into "safe mode"..

you might have to adjust the "permissions" for some files or folders in order to get things to work the way that you want them to, from within a limited user account..

another trick is to use "runas" to run programs with "administrator priviledges" from within a limited user account..

i don't use "fast user switching".. if i want to switch between user accounts, i log off from one account and then login to the other one..

honestly, using a limited user account is not very difficult.. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19932832 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:47:53 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19932732 scelli : Thanks to both of you for providing the valuable info. Guess I have some reading to do if I'm going to avoid making a complete disaster of things, huh? :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19932732 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:32:45 EDT Re: Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19932271 Name Game : Requirement of administrative privileges to run certain programs dampens the chances of providing a limited user with greater flexibility. With the Service Pack 2 now integrated with this, it is now one of the most advanced secure operating system till date and assures you of the highest level of protection whether browsing or working online / offline. And it gives you more control over each application / feature than you ever thought was possible.

This thread will help you understand limitations and how to avoid them

Win XP Pro SP2 Limited User Account

»www.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/com···295.html
and..

HOWTO Beat Windows Software into Submission
»www.planetcobalt.net/sdb/submission.shtml
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Limited User accounts can protect your Windows XP computer when you browse the Web]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19931309 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:05:14 EDT Creating Limited User Account on Win XP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19931195 scelli : I have read numerous postings here on the increased security provided by running as a limited account user, and have some rather simple questions:

1) I've never operated as anything else but administrator on my PC since I'm the only one who has access to it. How do I go about creating a limited user account?

2) Once such an account is created, do you log off as admin and then log on to the limited account? Do you need to set a password?

3) How easy is it to toggle back and forth between the two if necessary?

4) I have this big fear of logging out as admin, logging in as a limited user and then not being able to log back on as admin. How does the procedure work and can I accidentally lock myself out of my own PC? :uhh:

Sorry if these questions seem rather dumb but I just haven't ever had the need to run as anything but administrator, so it's all Greek to me. :huh:

My OS is Win XP Pro SP2.

TIA!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19931195 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 10:46:53 EDT