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BloodRoses
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join:2003-03-17
clubs: | I like this idea, but... I don't buy DVD's anymore, DVD is dead. | |
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bigunk
Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA | Re: I like this idea, but... I'm curious. What's next? Or shall I say what's now? | |
| | Pictor Guy
join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA | Re: I like this idea, but... Blu-Ray. It's been a while since I purchased a DVD as well. I may consider services like AppleTV when it starts offering HD Titles but 480i+Compressed audio found on DVDs just don't cut it anymore. | |
| | | Thaler
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| Re: I like this idea, but... said by Pictor Guy  :Blu-Ray. LOL.
Yeeeah, maybe its the fact that I don't own a super entertainment depo, or that I just like to watch the movie for the actual content, but one of the deal-killers to HD/Blueray is that media is almost 2x the price. In an era where the MPAA is mass producing epic amounts of crap, shelling out an extra $10-20 for a new release in HD just isn't attractive.
I haven't seen a "must own" movie in ages. At least when I go and pick up a DVD, I get to see the content quick-n-cheap. Paying more to see the pores in the actors faces in "The Game Plan" just seems like a waste of money still. | |
| | | | tlniec
join:2004-08-02
Cedar Rapids, IA
| Re: I like this idea, but... said by Thaler :said by Pictor Guy :Blu-Ray. LOL. Yeeeah, maybe its the fact that I don't own a super entertainment depo, or that I just like to watch the movie for the actual content, but one of the deal-killers to HD/Blueray is that media is almost 2x the price. In an era where the MPAA is mass producing epic amounts of crap, shelling out an extra $10-20 for a new release in HD just isn't attractive. I haven't seen a "must own" movie in ages. At least when I go and pick up a DVD, I get to see the content quick-n-cheap. Paying more to see the pores in the actors faces in "The Game Plan" just seems like a waste of money still. I don't disagree with you regarding most new releases. Crap is crap, no matter how you slice it.
However, there are many great catalog titles / classic films that have been released on high-def media. Generally speaking, these have been scanned from high-quality masters and look great. In a many cases, they're absolutely stunning. Film's resolution far exceeds 1920x1080, so even movies dating back many decades can look far better on HD DVD/Blu-Ray than on standard DVD. | |
| | | | | Thaler
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| Re: I like this idea, but... said by tlniec :However, there are many great catalog titles / classic films that have been released on high-def media. Generally speaking, these have been scanned from high-quality masters and look great. In a many cases, they're absolutely stunning. Film's resolution far exceeds 1920x1080, so even movies dating back many decades can look far better on HD DVD/Blu-Ray than on standard DVD. I dunno. The only real movies that make me go "WOW" about HD are the newer releases that have been designed for such a market. However, all re-releases I've seen on demo/display require me to make hard contimplative comparisons to actually notice a difference beyond DVD quality.
Now, the "OMFG amazing" difference in picture quality between new releases in HD and DVD...I could see purchasing in the near future - if there was media worth playing. However, almost all the content I actually care about looks just as good in HD as it does on DVD. HD is certainly pretty, but the movies that actually make good on the technology are crap. I just don't see myself paying an extra premium for pretty-looking class-B movies.
...unless its a flick from a porn studio. In that case, yeah...the "story" to that media is moot. The more graphics, the better - perfect for HD.  | |
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bigunk
Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA | Re: I like this idea, but... I'm just gonna build a media server with scads of storage, maybe 8TB or so. Rip what I can to it and watch it when I want. That way, standards can change and I only need to do updates to handle new media formats. Sound like a reasonable idea? | |
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join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA
| said by bigunk :I'm just gonna build a media server with scads of storage, maybe 8TB or so. Rip what I can to it and watch it when I want. That way, standards can change and I only need to do updates to handle new media formats. Sound like a reasonable idea? I built one just last summer, as well as three media PCs (one for each TV in the house.)
The server is a RAID 5 array with eight 750GB drives, giving me a total of 5.25 TB. We have over 400 DVDs in the house, so I needed a lot of space.
One of the first things I did when I started this project was take a sampling of 30 or so DVDs to get an idea of the size. Some of the simple, no-frills ones were 4 GB or so, while some of the feature-packed ones were closer to 8 GB. The average size was about 6 GB.
I used the free version of DVDFAB HD Decrypter to copy them, and Media Portal and Power DVD to play them. It's nice having all those movies at my fingertips, and even if I loan one out, I still have it at home to watch. I don't even use the actual discs anymore, except one time to copy them.
If you need any advice from someone who's already done this, let me know. I'll try and answer any questions you might have.  | |
| | | | quatrix
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL
| Re: I like this idea, but... said by TheWickerMan :I don't even use the actual discs anymore, except one time to copy them. If you need any advice from someone who's already done this, let me know. I'll try and answer any questions you might have. I have a question. How many years in jail? | |
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join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA
| Re: I like this idea, but... said by quatrix :said by TheWickerMan :I don't even use the actual discs anymore, except one time to copy them. If you need any advice from someone who's already done this, let me know. I'll try and answer any questions you might have. I have a question. How many years in jail? Are you trying to be funny, or simply trolling?
If you're thinking I'm renting or borrowing movies and copying them, you're mistaken. I could, but I do not and will not, no matter how corrupt I believe the MPAA is.
Every single movie on my server is a copy of a disc that I legally bought and paid for. I do not upload them anywhere on the internet, just the server that is accesible only by the computers on my personal network.
Granted, I'm going against the DMCA by using a tool that defeats the copy protection, but all I'm doing is exercising my Fair Use right to make a backup copy of my legally purchased discs. | |
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
| I believe that there was a company a few years back that began to market a set-top device that would rip your DVDs to a local hard drive for easy viewing. The MPAA sued the company until they stopped offering the device. While it was never a consumer level device (IIRC, it cost $10,000), it would likely have been the first wave of similar devices which would eventually have landed into the consumer price range. I, for one, would love to have a set top device that could take my DVDs and make them all available to me at the push of a button.
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| Re: I like this idea, but... the name of the product is called the kaleidescape. It was sued but a judge ruled Kaleidescape is in full compliance with the DVD Copy Control Association's license to the Content Scramble System.
If it wasnt so much money I would already have this since I have over 1200 dvds and it would make things much more conveinient. | |
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
| Re: I like this idea, but... Thanks for the information. I was under the impression that they were sued out of existence. Glad to hear that they beat back the DVD CCA. (I just found this via Google about the win: »www.floppyhead.com/2007/03/30/ka···lawsuit/ ) Hopefully, this enables us to have more consumer-priced DVD storage systems in the near future. We don't have as many DVDs as you do (probably around 200), but it is still a pain to find the disc that you want while keeping all of the others organized. (Especially with kids around.) It would be so much easier to select the DVD with the remote and have it load up.
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| | Thaler
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| said by en102 :Even if it isn't officially dead, there's no use in purchasing DVD's / BluRay / HD-DVD. Within a few years, standards will change, and your movies will be useless. Isn't that true of all technology? If that's what folks should do, why ever buy computers, media, etc. at all? You buy things that work for you in the here-and-now. Waiting for tommorrow's technologies will leave you waiting forever.
I personally like to live on the "dull edge" of technology. That way, I get to enjoy most of the tech offerings of the day, but I don't get burned so bad when technology/offerings change. | |
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en102
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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| Re: I like this idea, but... I agree... I have 'some' movies on VHS, and 2 computers (one is corp laptop).
There's no reason to go and purchase the bleeding edge, as it will lose most of its value in the first few months.
I typically stay at the 'dull' edge as well, as there's no real benefit to me otherwise.
I do have a DVD burner, which burns from TV to Divx format, and accepts RF (NTSC) channel 3/4 style connection, which allows me to get anything off DirecTv / old VHS, etc.
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| | dlr_graph
join:2002-02-03
Elizabeth, NJ
| There was a big gap in years between VHS and DVD, and even when the gap berween Blu-Ray and DVD is shorter I think the format will still be around for several more years. As others pointed out, I don't see a reason for paying twice as mush for a Blu-Ray movie.
When DVD started there was a big hipe about how much contendt and features the disc would hold but it was never used. One was multiple angles. This feature was never used by the studios with the exception of the adult industry.
How many people can actually see a difference between a DVD and a Blu-Ray (or HD DVD) at a distance of 6' or more? | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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| Re: I like this idea, but... Yup - once the medium changed from magetic tape to purely digital format, the time from DVD to BluRay (and its demise) will be shorter. Digital media is much more portable.
Many still don't have an HD-set, so 1080p is still not even worth it for many, similar to 720p.
A few more years before 720p is the current 'standard'
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| | | tlniec
join:2004-08-02
Cedar Rapids, IA
| said by dlr_graph :... How many people can actually see a difference between a DVD and a Blu-Ray (or HD DVD) at a distance of 6' or more? I can from 14'. But my screen is also 106".
That's why I'm a little concerned that high-def media could become a niche product. For those who have front-projection systems, or large televisions with close seating, I think the benefits of HDM are sufficient to justify the costs. Standard DVD, even when run through an excellent scaler/upconverter, doesn't match HDM in those situations.
But outside of a home-theater environment, the value tapers off. In a bedroom/living room/kitchen, for example, the screen size to distance ratio is likely to be rather small and viewing is probably not going to be so critical as in a theater setting. In those cases, DVD is probably more than sufficient. | |
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