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jvanbrecht
join:2007-01-08
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Re: DVR's That Work with Verizon Fios

For the pccards to comply with the cablelabs spec, they have to only support Vista (I believe they refuse to even certify drivers for XP). Once cable card supporting pc tv cards become more ubiquitous, there will be development on supporting them in linux, even if they have to use closed source drivers, which will result in mythtv being able to support them. It will only be a matter of time.
SD6
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said by jvanbrecht:

Once cable card supporting pc tv cards become more ubiquitous...
This might not happen because CableLabs reportedly refuses to license cablecard sockets for use on tv cards. So you will only get them by buying a complete computer, and I expect cablecard PCs to be sold at a healthy premium ($$).
jvanbrecht
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They already sell those complete machines at a hefty rate. Currently ATI are the only venders that have cable card ready pc tuners (external USB and internal). They are only being sold to OEMs at the moment, and some of those run in the $10k+ range (there is one with 4 internal cable card ready tuners).

But.. the line between TV's with STB's and Computers being used in the home entertainment realm is becoming very blurry, and cablelabs will adjust its stance appropriately. Granted, these things get wrapped heavily in DRM, but that does not stop it from being used in OSS operating systems. You can run closed source protected applications under linux. High end CAD applications, hell SCADA applications all closed source (and costing in the $100k+ range run on linux).

It just takes more thought to lock things down.

bobc21121
join:2004-01-04
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Is this the sony dvr?

»cgi.ebay.com/Sony-DHG-HD ··· 638.m124
KenAF
join:2006-01-23
Arlington, VA

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said by bobc21121:

Is this the sony dvr?

»cgi.ebay.com/Sony-DHG-HD ··· 638.m124
Yes.

Just be aware that -- unlike TiVo and the Verizon DVR -- the Sony is a single-tuner DVR, so you can't watch one channel while you record another, nor can you record two different channels simultaneously. The Sony DVR does allow you to watch a previous recording while you record something else.

With the Sony, you'll also need an off-air antenna to get guide data for FiOS, and the guide may stop working next February, at which time it would function like a digital VCR (i.e. manual recordings and no program listings).

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Saw this in a few places ZATZNOTFUNNY among others, but this looks like it holds promise for those of us that would like to go a 'Third' way.

»brentevans.blogspot.com/ ··· ord.html
KenAF
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said by bobc21121:

Saw this in a few places ZATZNOTFUNNY among others, but this looks like it holds promise for those of us that would like to go a 'Third' way.

»brentevans.blogspot.com/ ··· ord.html
It's hard to see the point, though, given that it you must still pay to rent the $9.99/mo HD STB or $15.99/mo HD DVR. And the $249 Hauppauge can only record one channel at a time with reduced quality -- you lose the ability to record two different channels at once, as well as the ability to watch one channel while you record another.
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said by KenAF:

said by bobc21121:

Saw this in a few places ZATZNOTFUNNY among others, but this looks like it holds promise for those of us that would like to go a 'Third' way.

»brentevans.blogspot.com/ ··· ord.html
It's hard to see the point, though, given that it still requires you must pay still rent the $9.99/mo HD STB or $15.99/mo HD DVR. And the $249 Hauppauge can only record one channel at a time with reduced quality -- you lose the ability to record two different channels at once, as well as the ability to watch one channel while you record another.
Yes, a bit misleading where that blogger suggests it does an end-around the CableCard...

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said by bobc21121:

Saw this in a few places ZATZNOTFUNNY among others, but this looks like it holds promise for those of us that would like to go a 'Third' way.

»brentevans.blogspot.com/ ··· ord.html
I hope this does not lead to providers disabling component outputs. As an "early adopter" with no dvi or hdmi inputs I would rather see this product fail or never make it to market. (Although I might be able to make a case to the "finance committee" for a new TV in this scenario )
jvanbrecht
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I do not ever see this happening. it is used by far too many things to ever be disabled, even if you did have HDMI.
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said by jvanbrecht:

They already sell those complete machines at a hefty rate. Currently ATI are the only venders that have cable card ready pc tuners (external USB and internal). They are only being sold to OEMs at the moment, and some of those run in the $10k+ range (there is one with 4 internal cable card ready tuners).
you can buy it individually from sony.

»www.sonystyle.com/webapp ··· 65246461
KenAF
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said by Aero 1:

said by jvanbrecht:

They already sell those complete machines at a hefty rate. Currently ATI are the only venders that have cable card ready pc tuners (external USB and internal). They are only being sold to OEMs at the moment, and some of those run in the $10k+ range (there is one with 4 internal cable card ready tuners).
you can buy it individually from sony.

»www.sonystyle.com/webapp ··· 65246461
Unfortunately, those won't with with your current PC.

They require (1) a special CableCard version of Vista, and (2) a PC with special bios support for CableCards. Without those, you've just got a doorstop.
jvanbrecht
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What he said ^^