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aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
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Standard definition has never looked incredible

"..our standard def looks incredible.."

That is impossible.
Standard definition has never looked incredible.

And I use a $3500 video scaler(VP50pro) and a $1000 noise reduction box(Algolith HDMI flea) It gets the SD picture looking as good as you can get and I would never describe an SD picture as incredible.
I've also been watching and recording HD since Summer 2001 so I'm used to watching HD content.

dishrich

join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL

said by aaronwt See Profile :

It gets the SD picture looking as good as you can get and I would never describe an SD picture as incredible.
In comparison to the very highly compressed SD crap from DBS, it actually might!


djrobx

join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
reply to aaronwt
Yup. Not to mention the loss of widescreen formatted video. You'll either get 4:3 chopped glory or letterboxed video that's too blurry when zoomed. DVD is standard def but at least they're usually anamorphic.


N O Y B
St. John 3.16

join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR

reply to aaronwt
said by aaronwt See Profile :

"..our standard def looks incredible.."

That is impossible.
Standard definition has never looked incredible.

And I use a $3500 video scaler(VP50pro) and a $1000 noise reduction box(Algolith HDMI flea) It gets the SD picture looking as good as you can get and I would never describe an SD picture as incredible.
I've also been watching and recording HD since Summer 2001 so I'm used to watching HD content.

Well there's your problem... Get rid of all that expensive junk and it will look incredible. Incredibly awful maybe, but incredible nonetheless.

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rcdailey
Dragoonfly
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join:2005-03-29
Rialto, CA

reply to aaronwt
I had the opportunity to watch the Super Bowl in HD on Sunday and it looked very good, indeed. The new 42" Panasonic plasma TV I saw it on was rated at 720p, 1080i. It was served by a Dish network receiver, so I looked up Dish today and they advertise 720p, 1080i. I'm guessing that the picture I saw was as good as it gets via Dish.

proletarian2

join:2007-01-08
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since fox broadcasts in 720p, you weren't going to gain much by watching it on a 1080i tv.


sapo
I eat meat
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join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA
reply to aaronwt
You can use the fanciest equipment in the world but in the end... crap in = crap out.
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cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN

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said by proletarian2 See Profile :

since fox broadcasts in 720p, you weren't going to gain much by watching it on a 1080i tv.
Actually scaling it from 720p to 1080i you would actually lose information as well as picture quality on fast moving plays.


rcdailey
Dragoonfly
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Rialto, CA

said by cdru See Profile :

said by proletarian2 See Profile :

since fox broadcasts in 720p, you weren't going to gain much by watching it on a 1080i tv.
Actually scaling it from 720p to 1080i you would actually lose information as well as picture quality on fast moving plays.
If it were broadcast in 720p, then I would hope that would be how it would be shown on an HD TV that supports 720p. Otherwise, I would think that you could get some weird results.


cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN

Most HD sets only display one resolution natively, either 1080i or 720p. Which ever one it doesn't support gets scaled. That's just the nature of the beast with fixed-pixel displays like DLP, LCD, or plasma. The only displays that can natively show both are CRT-based displays (either direct view or rear projection).

For the most part though watching one standard on a set designed for the other isn't that big of a deal. It's going to be a great picture either way. For the best details in a slow moving picture like a slow pan, 1080i will give you the best perceived picture as the human eye will see what it things to be 1080 lines of resolution. However with a fast moving screen like a football being thrown down the field with the crowd in the background, the eye will detect that only 540 lines are drawn every refresh and it can make the picture look shaky. In those cases, 720p gives the better picture because all 720 lines are drawn every refresh.

Now with 1080p it's the best of both worlds. Too bad nothing will be broadcast in that for years to come.


rcdailey
Dragoonfly
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Rialto, CA
I'm going to assume that the picture I was watching was not scaled but was 720p as broadcast because I did not observe any shakiness at any time during the broadcast.
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