 lvas join:2001-05-17 Glen Carbon, IL | The car analogy works well So in keeping with the auto industry analogy. Cars are what? 100% more Expensive now than 10 years ago? And 400% more expensive than 20 years ago?
Why do folks in these forums think prices Will go down anyway? Since when Do any prices for anything go down? Telecom services are supplied by people folks.
Pay goes up, gas goes up (the telecom fleet) so guess what?? Prices go up. |
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | said by lvas:So in keeping with the auto industry analogy. Cars are what? 100% more Expensive now than 10 years ago? And 400% more expensive than 20 years ago? Cars did NOT cost $3,000-$5,000 in 1988. Maybe in 1978 |
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| said by BF69:said by lvas:So in keeping with the auto industry analogy. Cars are what? 100% more Expensive now than 10 years ago? And 400% more expensive than 20 years ago? Cars did NOT cost $3,000-$5,000 in 1988. Maybe in 1978 He obviously didn't much thought into it. A civic for example is only about 2-3k more than ten years ago. |
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 DogfatherPremium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA | reply to lvas It especially works well with a lease. Put too many miles on your Comcast car and they'll cancel you. |
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| reply to lvas said by lvas:... Why do folks in these forums think prices Will go down anyway? Since when Do any prices for anything go down? Telecom services are supplied by people folks. Pay goes up, gas goes up (the telecom fleet) so guess what?? Prices go up. I never thought broadband prices would go down, just like I never thought TV rates would go down because of verizon FIOS. But there was massive BS about cable prices being held in check by FIOS.
prices only go down when there is competition. what the U.S. has is competition by decree: all the industry astroturfers say there will be competition as soon as you deregulate their industry, so it must be so.
and pay has not gone up; since 2001, median salary has decreased by about $2000/yr. |
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 lvas join:2001-05-17 Glen Carbon, IL | prices go down in competition? That is not a given. again use the auto industry example. you can't argue the auto industry is not competitive - because it certainly is and prices didn't go down did they? I bought my first new car (midsize cheve 1977) for 5000. Midsize cheve's cost 20 to 25k now. My math says thats a 500% increase for the same "type" of car - from the same company. |
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 jslikThat just happenedPremium join:2006-03-17 | said by lvas:prices go down in competition? That is not a given. Did you read nasadude's post?
said by nasadude:"I never thought broadband prices would go down, just like I never thought TV rates would go down because of verizon FIOS. But there was massive BS about cable prices being held in check by FIOS." I'd go one step further...the telcos told the various government bodies that prices would go down if only they'd 'get out of the way'. Hasn't happened, has it? -- If they told you wolverines would make good house pets, would you believe them? -"Planes, Trains & Automobiles" |
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 RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY | reply to lvas said by lvas:prices go down in competition? That is not a given. again use the auto industry example. you can't argue the auto industry is not competitive - because it certainly is and prices didn't go down did they? I bought my first new car (midsize cheve 1977) for 5000. Midsize cheve's cost 20 to 25k now. My math says thats a 500% increase for the same "type" of car - from the same company. Your 500% increase is way too high since it is based on the assumption that in 2008 $1 is the same as $1 in 1977. If you want to compare a 1977 price with a 2008 price you have to adjust for inflation (or purchasing power). IOW: Compute the 2008 price in 1977 equivalent dollars. YES the price has gone up but much less than your claimed 500%. |
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN 1 edit | reply to lvas said by lvas:prices go down in competition? That is not a given. again use the auto industry example. you can't argue the auto industry is not competitive - because it certainly is and prices didn't go down did they? I bought my first new car (midsize cheve 1977) for 5000. Midsize cheve's cost 20 to 25k now. My math says thats a 500% increase for the same "type" of car - from the same company. Yeah that's 31 years not 20. Also you fail at math. To go from 5000 to 25,000 is a 400% increase not 500%
$5000 100% increase=$10,000 200% increase=$15,000 300% increase=$20,000 400% increase=$25,000
Also a car from 1977 is not the SAME car in 2008.
Also technology usually comes DOWN in price. 30 years ago a 27" CRT TV would be $500 VCR would be $250. Now a 27" CRT non-HD TV can be had for $250 and a VCR for $25. |
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