Kearnstd
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Re: Porn?
i dont think here in the US a court could legally make an ISP block a site.
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jimkyser
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1 edit | said by Kearnstd  :i dont think here in the US a court could legally make an ISP block a site. A US court legally made a web site remove a link to the decss source code so it really depends on what any particular judge decides the law means. |
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Dogfather
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Please, after seeing the court rule that local governments can steal people's private property to give to another private entity so that the local government can get more taxes, you would be surprised if they blocked websites? |
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said by Kearnstd :i dont think here in the US a court could legally make an ISP block a site. Various laws(Communications Decency Act (CDA) & Child Online Protection Act (COPA)) have been struck down by the Supreme Court that tried to make an ISP a decision maker of what to block and what not to block.
But a specific order from a judge to block a specific site would be legal. The ISP and the blocked web site owner could, of course, appeal that order to higher courts.
But the Supreme Court did uphold the Children’s Internet Protection Act (CIPA), that changed the focus off of the ISP and on to 3rd party clients like schools, libraries, etc. They were forced to block content or lose Federal funding.
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| My real point was, would anyone do anything about it, or would they just say meh, and move on.
Lets just say, right now today, the US Gvmnt said, wow, what a great idea, lets make all the US ISPs block TPB..
Would they try to issue such an order, would ISPs do it, would it be legal, and what about the technical side.. And then what happens if people get around the blocks, would that then be a crime for just pulling up the site?
Some things to think about, and where we are, and where we might go..
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said by Dogfather :Please, after seeing the court rule that local governments can steal people's private property to give to another private entity so that the local government can get more taxes, you would be surprised if they blocked websites? Gold star for citing the Kelo decision even if you didn't know the name.  |
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SilverSurfer
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said by gatorkram :Lets just say, right now today, the US Gvmnt said, wow, what a great idea, lets make all the US ISPs block TPB.. Would they try to issue such an order, would ISPs do it, would it be legal, and what about the technical side.. And then what happens if people get around the blocks, would that then be a crime for just pulling up the site? Some things to think about, and where we are, and where we might go.. This is essentially what the copyright wars are leading up to. Once the **AAs succeed in buying off a politician (cough Berman cough) to sponsor a bill to "block" anything, it's all downhill from there because once something featuring X content is blocked for the children, or, insert cause here, it's a slippery slope to blocking something that someone somewhere (American corporations) don't like for Y reason. It's only a matter of time before our bought & paid for government concedes to blocking websites for the good of something (the corporate bottom line.) This is why NN should be a part of ANY of the current crop of douchebags candidates running for executive office. |
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jsuboh
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Re: Who's to say that it would be the Government Decision
Who's to say that it would be the Government's decision - ATT is already toying with filters and Comcast is throttling bit torrents. The issue is with the companies that manage the ISP - would they be the ones to voluntary do it? |
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SilverSurfer
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Re: Porn?
OT: Laguna Hills, eh...my office is over by the Carl's off the Lake Forest Bl/Carlota intersection. Small world. |
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| said by SilverSurfer :OT: Laguna Hills, eh...my office is over by the Carl's off the Lake Forest Bl/Carlota intersection. Small world. I live in Nellie Gail Ranch. |
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Kearnstd
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said by SilverSurfer :said by Dogfather :Please, after seeing the court rule that local governments can steal people's private property to give to another private entity so that the local government can get more taxes, you would be surprised if they blocked websites? Gold star for citing the Kelo decision even if you didn't know the name. as someone from CT that whole case made me sad and made me wish the entire neighboorhood had said no we wont leave and you will have to bring SWAT in to get us out.
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