Regional Talk > Southeast > Barcodes and security gates - WTF?!

reply to Phantom 2

Re: Barcodes and security gates - WTF?!

reply to Juke Box

I did mention "equipment" was involved.

Look at this way, this is an apartment complex. People rent there, or they could be condos also. Except for the condo there is no real ownership of the renter and the responsibility of security is up to the apartment owner.

I really don't see how entering and leaving the premises constitute "logging your every move".

However, there is this other train of thought. It is a popular concept to sell apartments as condos. If this particular place is planning on doing that. Then that also could be the reason why they are trying to secure their property.

Either way, I don't see this as an invasion of privacy. More like an attempt to secure the premises and keep their patrons safe.
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reply to Stiv2k
Okay, wow, I totally didn't realize this would become such a heated discussion. First of all I'd like to make it clear that while I do commend the community for *attempting* to make us safer here, I must say they really aren't doing a very good job, even with all this new security crap.

Yes, I do live in Orlando, the apartment complex is called "Pegasus Landing". It's a very large student housing community right next to University of Central Florida, where I am a student.

I'm not particularly worried about the system knowing exactly when I entered and left the neighborhood. It's a very densely populated community and I don't think they would bother to watch any individual's actions.

No, it is strictly campus-affiliated housing, NO condos, but maybe a fraternity or two.

So, why are the people who run this place idiots? Well, up until now, their measure of "security" was to have a rent-a-cop sitting in a lawn chair at all the community entrances. **IF** someone bothered to stop on their way in (most people just drive right by), he would be there to make sure you're not drunk off your ass or carrying explosives.

So, now they install all these fancy cameras and fallible security gates. Guess what? Due to the way the neighborhood is designed, and the way they implemented the gates, some buildings and sections of parking lot are still OUTSIDE of the gated area. So some people aren't receiving any benefit whatsoever from the system. can someone say LOL?

As soon as I can successfully make a breach with a simple digital photograph of someone else's decal, without any fancy barcode reading tools or anything, I'm going to write a report and show it to the managers.

Feel free to discuss this even more, I want to know your opinions!
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reply to Juke Box

reply to Stiv2k

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reply to Stiv2k

Once you peel of the backing it will get even thinner. I florida there are countless communities that implement this system, I'm surprised it has taken this long for people to realize its fallibility.

But, If you were to enter the gate with the bar code, then take the BC out and out in your friends car and try to enter again, Would it let you do that. Many system only let you in once. Its like my Metropass, You can only swipe it one every so often. If you try to do it back to back it wont let you.

Going back to the bar code. When home owner leaves, thief comes in and leaves. Then home owner can come back in to find house burglarized. Its all about deterrence.

Good luck.

reply to state
Get ready for it mate, these "systems" are coming to where you work (depending on how you get there). They have been pushing these systems hard lately. Even going so far as saying they wont have to man the gates when they get them working... hahahah like they could get anything working!!!
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Oh I know, they've been talking about the new HSPD requirements around here for a while now, but you know how that goes - talk for ten years before actually doing anything.

And as for unmanned gates - some people have a hard enough time doing the self-checkout at Home Depot..can you imagine..

reply to SmokChsr
if the system actually reads the codes, then above example won't work...I'm guessing.
Reason: cars drive at varying distances from reader, so the 2 thick bars at outside edges need to be thick as a reference....?

edit: another guess: there will be a pattern for complex...a certain part of the barcode will identify the complex itself, otherwise, anyone with any barcode security sticker might be allowed access...

reply to TiBlanc
Would hope that it would allow multiple close-timed accesses--oops! forgot my breifcase---oops forgot my coffee cup--ops forgot the kids.....oops kids forgot their lunch tickets, ad nauseum...
Could create a real problem for the 'human factor'