Re: Verizon the new Google? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19944222 en Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:01:45 EDT Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:01:45 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19955790 Jodokast96 : POTS? Couldn't tell you. But DSL? No, they don't.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19955790 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:21:13 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19954130 niblifar : So Verizon doesn't use "unfees" in their DSL or POTS? Silly me.
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said by KrK See Profile :

said by Kearnstd See Profile :

and once again prove the war on piracy is about as effective as the war on drugs has been.
War on Poverty, War on Terrorism etc etc.

Ummm. Do we ever win these? Will any ever end?

Like Joshua said in WarGames: "The only winning move is not to play."
Well, when it comes to the war on terror, not "playing" means civilization as we know it ends. No choice. Our survival, keep em on the run, or we fall. Don't like it either, but I like the alternative even less.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19949525 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 05:50:45 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19948357 Jodokast96 : Whoever said they were? And what company doesn't need to be kept in check? Of all of the complaints you could make about them, you choose the biggest non-issue there is. One fee, one time, that was never even implemented, is not a history. A history of bad support? Yes. A history of turning thing over to the government? Yes. But a history of hidden fees? That's a stretch and a half and you still come up short.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19948357 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:15:30 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19948288 niblifar : The point is they have a history of hidden fees, and unless they are kept in check, nothing will stop them from reimplementing them. Verizon's no warm and fuzzy teddy bear.
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Vita est bona.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19948288 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:03:11 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19947972 Jodokast96 : That's from over a year ago, they weren't the only ones to do it, and they were dropped before they ever actually started charging them. That's the best you've got?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19947972 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:12:42 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19947794 Matt :
said by jester121 See Profile :

Not a valid argument, everyone on BBR knows that AT&T is closely aligned with Satan.

It was just fortuitous that you posted that when they're sitting a buck off their 52 week low. I'm pretty sure plenty of investors still aren't convinced that the large FIOS capex investments are the right thing to do right now.
FIne, let's compare them back over the past year:

»finance.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=T

»finance.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=VZ

Verizon still looks better.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19947794 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:45:07 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19947763 jester121 : Not a valid argument, everyone on BBR knows that AT&T is closely aligned with Satan.

It was just fortuitous that you posted that when they're sitting a buck off their 52 week low. I'm pretty sure plenty of investors still aren't convinced that the large FIOS capex investments are the right thing to do right now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19947763 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:40:01 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19947748 Matt :
said by jester121 See Profile :

said by Matt See Profile :

If Verizon can do it and please investors, why can't AT&T?
Investors must be tripping over themselves for this kind of performance:

»finance.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3AVZ

:uhh:
As opposed to this kind?

»finance.google.com/finance?q=t&hl=en]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19947748 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:35:45 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19947627 jester121 :
said by Matt See Profile :

If Verizon can do it and please investors, why can't AT&T?
Investors must be tripping over themselves for this kind of performance:

»finance.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3AVZ

:uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19947627 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:20:38 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19947547 niblifar : Warm and fuzzy is right here.

»New Verizon DSL Fees

»Gotcha Capitalism: Sneaky Broadband Fees
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said by Kearnstd See Profile :

and once again prove the war on piracy is about as effective as the war on drugs has been.
War on Poverty, War on Terrorism etc etc.

Ummm. Do we ever win these? Will any ever end?

Like Joshua said in WarGames: "The only winning move is not to play."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19945673 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:47:43 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19945651 Kearnstd : as would i since then it causes the pirates to find ways to avoid the scanners. and once again prove the war on piracy is about as effective as the war on drugs has been.
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[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19945651 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:44:31 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19945645 KrK : I'd still prefer them to have to work for it and try and alienate the entire public further rather then have the ISP or providers just roll over and volunteer to do it for them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19945645 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:43:06 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19945638 KrK : Because at&t is still entrenched in that Monopoly-Bell ideology. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19945638 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:41:59 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19945002 Kearnstd : you can bet hollywood will just buy some laws in the coming years that will make ISPs required to block whatever the Media Mafia considers pirate.
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said by Matt See Profile :

If Verizon can do it and please investors, why can't AT&T?

It's the investment in fiber that makes the difference.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19944784 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:16:20 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19944300 Jodokast96 :
said by niblifar See Profile :

Yep, I love those "warm and fuzzy" hidden fees.
What hidden fees?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19944300 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:47:36 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19944222 niblifar : Yep, I love those "warm and fuzzy" hidden fees.
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Vita est bona.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19944222 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:31:22 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19944182 TScheisskopf : Probably something far more mundane, such as the **AA's promising The Deathstar very favorable rates and conditions for UVerse.

But yeah, there is a wide swath of people out there who want control of the Internet, especially in the entertainment industry. Remember: patrons of all sectors of the entertainment industry, radio, TV, movies and music, are down. Part of that is because of the fact that people are using the internet. They want them eyeballs and earholes back, and the way to do it is to essentially grab it, by any means, fair or foul. If it means lying, cheating, stealing and barratry to get it, well...so what?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19944182 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:23:23 EDT Re: Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19943903 matrix3D : Perhaps because the AT&T CEO (is it still Whitacre?) is a greedy, blood-thirsty dictator?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19943903 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:23:45 EDT Verizon the new Google? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19943882 Matt : Verizon (aside from Verizon Wireless) is quickly becoming the "warm and fuzzy" company all the geeks love.

Fast, cheap bandwidth, and a hands-off policy.

If Verizon can do it and please investors, why can't AT&T?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19943882 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:20:42 EDT