Vathral
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clubs: | Re: It was approved by the moron voters wow. If that is the case, do people even bother to check what they are voting for these days?
Hope these people don't bitch and moan about it.
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TKJunkMail
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| Re: It was approved by the moron voters said by Vathral  :wow. If that is the case, do people even bother to check what they are voting for these days? I doubt it. I vote against bond issues year after year. These same bond issues are usually passed by 80% approval percentages. But year after year, Jersey voters keep complaining that their taxes are way too high. Somehow, they never seem able to put 2 and 2 together and figure out that their taxes are being used to pay off these bond issues they keep approving.
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pnh102
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| Re: It was approved by the moron voters said by TKJunkMail :But year after year, Jersey voters keep complaining that their taxes are way too high. Somehow, they never seem able to put 2 and 2 together and figure out that their taxes are being used to pay off these bond issues they keep approving. If only such problems could be contained to states which have a majority of idiots who vote for tax hikes. Many of these people in New York, New Jersey and California (and this is certainly not an exhaustive list) eventually get tired of the tax hikes and move out.
Of course, they move to states with lower taxes. Then they continue to vote for the same boneheadedness that caused their taxes to shoot through the roof where they used to live. The end result of course is they ruin the new place for everyone else.
In other words, they pee in the new pool that they moved into.
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Glen Burnie, MD | Re: It was approved by the moron voters Sometimes the legislatures take matters into their own hands and ignore the voters. Take a look at Annapolis.  | |
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rit56
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| oh pnh... always love a good opportunity to slam the north east citizens of the USA.. well if tons of people are moving into other areas well that means the infrastructure needs to increase to serve those people. new water, sewer, electric, roads... how does the community all these people move to pay for that increase I wonder? I guess you're thinking God will provide the money or they don't need water, sewer, roads,police, fire fighters etc. etc. | |
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| said by rit56 :oh pnh... always love a good opportunity to slam the north east citizens of the USA.. Anyone who willingly votes themselves a tax hike is a complete and total moron, regardless of where they live.
You happy now?
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| said by rit56 : I guess you're thinking God will provide the money or they don't need water, sewer, roads,police, fire fighters etc. etc. JESUS!!!! JESUS will bring water. JESUS will open the sky when there is a fire. JESUS will protect us!!!! JESUS!!!!!! | |
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| Re: It was approved by the moron voters said by patcat88 :JESUS!!!!!! Jesus also called out a certain tax collector for being a pompous, corrupt, jerk. 
By name no less.
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right here | Re: It was approved by the moron voters Jesus said also pay Ceasar's things back to Caesar (i.e. pay the tribute *tax*), but what the hey, anybody can twist and thump the Bible to say things they want to hear. | |
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| said by Vathral :wow. If that is the case, do people even bother to check what they are voting for these days? Hope these people don't bitch and moan about it. Whatever 30 second TV spot is the most convincing, the people vote for. In this case the ads duped the people into thinking they were getting a real tax decrease. You should have seen the conflicting Indian gaming ads.
But, have you ever read the full text of these measures/etc? They full of language that you can't even interpret, so you don't really know what you are fully voting for in many of cases, or what the full impact really is.
Now the bonds, people should know better. You can't spend money you don't have. | |
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Jamaica, NY | Re: It was approved by the moron voters A good mis-information campaign always solves everything. | |
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| said by Vathral :do people even bother to check what they are voting for these days? Jay Leno did a jaywalking segment earlier this week where he showed pictures of the presidential candidates to people on the street. There were a large number of people who didn't have a clue who any of them were. One woman who couldn't identify John Edwards was asked who she voted for in the last presidential election. She said she voted for the Democrat but couldn't remember who it was. When told she had voted for Edwards for vice president she was stunned. This is why we have the government we have.
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| Re: It was approved by the moron voters said by footballdude :This is why we have the government we have. »www.dontvote.org
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MrMoody
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Smithfield, NC | Re: It was approved by the moron voters I fail to see what face recognition has to do with knowledge of the people you are voting for. Ballots don't have faces on them, at least not here.
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| Re: It was approved by the moron voters said by MrMoody :I fail to see what face recognition has to do with knowledge of the people you are voting for. Ballots don't have faces on them, at least not here. The original poster mentioned that Jay Leno was showing pictures of prominent politicians to people on the street and they could not recognize them.
I like the idea of testing voters on the basics (maybe not a picture test per se) before they can vote. Too bad it is not mandatory.
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1 edit | Er...don't the interests of a representative government kinda clash with "advice" telling people not to vote?
...and how exactly does knowing the entertainment bimbo elite have any correlation to voting well? Guh, if anything, I wish I could un-learn those morons - maybe they'd be less irritating that way.
said by pnh102 :I like the idea of testing voters on the basics (maybe not a picture test per se) before they can vote. Too bad it is not mandatory. Ditto. However, then we'd have to constantly fund courses in Politics 101 for everyone using public funds...and getting anyone to agree for percieved political "bloat" is pretty well doomed. | |
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1 edit | Re: It was approved by the moron voters said by Thaler :Er...don't the interests of a representative government kinda clash with "advice" telling people not to vote? Voting is a responsibility as well as a right. Someone who votes without knowing who or what they are voting for cancels out the vote of someone else who bothered to make an informed decision before he/she cast a ballot. It is not terribly hard to become informed in this day and age either, so that makes it even more justifiable to believe that the ignorant have no business voting at all.
Someone who has no idea who the president is has no business being within 1 mile of a polling place.
said by Thaler :However, then we'd have to constantly fund courses in Politics 101 for everyone using public funds That's another thing... why is it always the government's responsibility to teach people these things? We make the effort to become informed voters on our own. I don't think it is unreasonable to expect the same of others. Just walk into a public library and google the elections and the candidates. It is no big deal at all.
People should not have to be hand-holded to do the correct thing.
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| Re: It was approved by the moron voters said by pnh102 :That's another thing... why is it always the government's responsibility to teach people these things? Because if there's a limiting/deciding factor to vote (a right of every citizen), then its up to the government to also provide the means to meet said requirements. Otherwise, you'll have quite the lot of voters being disenfranchised (for one reason or another), and said measures would be tossed right out. | |
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| Re: It was approved by the moron voters said by Thaler :Because if there's a limiting/deciding factor to vote (a right of every citizen), then its up to the government to also provide the means to meet said requirements. Not at all. The 2nd Amendment guarantees the right of firearms ownership but that in no way burdens the government to teach people how to use firearms safely.
Besides, I mentioned in my original post that the government does make available the means by which someone could go learn about the candidates if they so chose. So the ability is there... but if someone chooses not to exercise the responsibility, then that person has no business exercising the right.
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| Re: It was approved by the moron voters said by pnh102 :said by Thaler :Because if there's a limiting/deciding factor to vote (a right of every citizen), then its up to the government to also provide the means to meet said requirements. Not at all. The 2nd Amendment guarantees the right of firearms ownership but that in no way burdens the government to teach people how to use firearms safely. Voting is managed in a similar fashion to that as well. I can't see us limiting voting, when another equally dangerous "ignorant user" right still goes unimpeded.
said by pnh102 :Besides, I mentioned in my original post that the government does make available the means by which someone could go learn about the candidates if they so chose. So the ability is there... but if someone chooses not to exercise the responsibility, then that person has no business exercising the right. However, those means are hardly practical. Not every local presinct also offers a local library (Encino's closest library is located in Tarzana!), so to expect a bare-minimum voter to hit up Google & return just isn't practical. Hell, I have a car, and I know I certainly couldn't drive to both library, research, and drive to the polling center within our required 1 hour of voting time.
Voting is a right, so anyone can vote any damn silly way they please. Even if it cancels out a "good vote", there's no way to say that one man's vote is more worthy than another's. To change such would usurp most of what the voting system stands for today. | |
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1 edit | I'm rather miffed. I voted in Encino, CA and I didn't see this one on my ballot. However, most everything that passes in LA hits us on this neck of the woods. Are we somehow exempt, or can LA just drag this onto us without a say?
(edit) Sorry, my brain stroked out there for a minute, or something. Yeah, Prop. S. That thing was the biggest braggart of "lower taxes" on our TV *ever*. I voted against it (and encouraged friends/family to do so). Fat lot of good that did.  | |
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