BruceN
Hi
join:2006-11-17
Roswell, GA
 ·Future Nine Corpor..
 ·AT&T U-Verse
 ·Comcast
| reply to celtic
Re: [VoiceStick] Well I am back and in charge of VoiceStick
I recall the rate being briefly 1.3 cent, don't recall the 1.2 cent. Our current termination company is costing right around 1 cent, so with a margin we can't hit 1.2.
But with the new switch we will also be looking at new outbound carriers.
Telco is very competitive. Some people live for the cheapest rate as they make tons of calls, others desire great features.
We have got to do both!
Thanks for the input. It is a great help!! |
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slow mo
join:2002-03-19
USA
2 edits | reply to BruceN
Bruce,
The concept behind GlobalTalk is good and very useful for cell phone users. But, why do I need 2 separate accounts, 1 for at home (VS) and 1 for traveling (GT), for my calls? I would not use GT at home because it has higher rates.
You mentioned you have PRI in Atlanta without incurring inbound charges. This would be perfect for cell phone users, no charges and/or no minutes (carrier dependent). A reduced inbound charge + outbound rate should do it. You get to keep inbound charges (PRI in Atlanta). Just enable the bridge between my cell #, or any # for that matter, and my VS account when calling the Atlanta #. This can be managed via web. GT and Voipbuster have this capability.
slow |
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Fisamo
Premium
join:2004-02-20
Apex, NC
·VOIPo
·AT&T CallVantage
| reply to BruceN
said by BruceN  :Yes you are right. The network guys actual brought this to a head. See my post above. A new topic maybe? I would love to have a 10 ft long list. Would a 19-page thread work for you? 
»ViaTalk Feature Request Thread |
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gimp55
join:2003-08-16
Ironton, OH
2 edits | reply to BruceN
I stopped using VS when the ibridge stopped showing my VS number caller id on my cell.
I am using alltel prepaid with 1 my favorite number and now have my grandcentral number set as it.
The only way to call out is if someone leaves a message and i use the return call feature.i would love to go back to VS the way it was before they made that change.
also not even using the account shows i have a -$15.13 bill.
Glad to see you back BruceN if you can remember i was the one helping with the ata186 configs some.
VS sure went downhill when you left |
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BruceN
Hi
join:2006-11-17
Roswell, GA | reply to slow mo
Slo Mo, yeah I agree about the Atlanta PRI. I just need to convince the network guys. They have WAY too many projects and I think if I brought that up right now they would go into melt down.
I even have a url I reserved I will IM you with it |
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BruceN
Hi
join:2006-11-17
Roswell, GA | reply to Fisamo
Fisamo.... COOL  |
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BruceN
Hi
join:2006-11-17
Roswell, GA
·Future Nine Corpor..
·AT&T U-Verse
·Comcast
| reply to gimp55
Gimp55 send me via IM you account number. I will fix the balance and put a smile on your face.
As to the incoming DID issue, I have surfaced it, there is no fast fix for it, I will not forget it. It is VERY important. Maybe get an alltell with 5 favorite numbers, use VS for the out, and grand central for the in?
I have Sprint. I use Sprint to home for outbound, and I paid the $10 extra for unlimited inbound. I had close to 3000 min last month and my Sprint bill was only $49
Got to just love it |
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SteveinNC
join:2007-07-19
Greensboro, NC
| reply to BruceN
I went with VS after the SR crash. I'm now with CC. I moved away for the already said reasons.
When I was a VS user I tested my E911 one Saturday morning and was answered by I guess one of those qualified call centers in Minnesota, via India at .16 min. With CC I tested my E911 and it went right to my local 911 Com Center. |
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celtic
join:2001-02-08
USA
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said by BruceN :I recall the rate being briefly 1.3 cent, don't recall the 1.2 cent. ... Below are a few sample calls from my 8-07 history.
Min - Cost
02 - 0.02
46 - 0.55
37 - 0.44
01 - 0.01
20 - 0.24
18 - 0.22
02 - 0.02
28 - 0.34
01 - 0.01
27 - 0.32
10 - 0.12
14 - 0.17
I billed over $10 that month ... $0 now. Voicestick went from being a great value to loosing each category in 60 days, all without notice. I assume your back because these changes did not work. What can you do? |
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BruceN
Hi
join:2006-11-17
Roswell, GA | reply to SteveinNC
I don't think it is a wise idea to test ANYONES e911-- It is not lawful to tie up the emergency system. Would advise some other approach |
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BruceN
Hi
join:2006-11-17
Roswell, GA
·Future Nine Corpor..
·AT&T U-Verse
·Comcast
| reply to celtic
Just goes to show you that I don't know everything.
Problem at this point is our cost for outbound termination. We need to shop around hard for a better deal. 1.2 is just not possible at this point, but we do need to get a better deal, no doubt!
Thanks for the input! |
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N9MD
Premium
join:2005-10-08
Wayne, NJ
·VOIPo
·ViaTalk
·PHONE POWER
·Callcentric
| reply to BruceN
said by BruceN :I don't think it is a wise idea to test ANYONES e911-- It is not lawful to tie up the emergency system. Would advise some other approach Actually, it is very wise to test the E911 setup when using any VoIP provider --- and it is easy to do. Just call your local police or fire department and ask them to get you the "non-emergency" number for your local Emergency Response Center. Then call this number to forewarn them you will be testing your VoIP E911 connection. They rarely refuse the request. I have done this with several VoIP providers at my NJ and my FL locations.
One should always confirm that an E911 call will go directly to the local Emergency Response Center -- and not be routed thru other sources. |
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BruceN
Hi
join:2006-11-17
Roswell, GA
1 edit | Now that is a good answer.
I just did not want to see a bunch of folks reading the post and going home and dialing 911 and seeing what happened. |
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navjun
join:2005-05-10
 ·Bezeqint
·GrandCentral
·VoiceStick
|  reply to BruceN
I've been using VS for about a year now and have seen it all , the network downs and price hikes and specially the unannounced inbound charging that ended up costing me a few dollars, I spend on average $20-30 a month on Next2Nothing service I felt I deserved having free incoming, but I guess Those "powers" didn't share my feelings, since then I started using GS and GP for incoming .
I haven't left VS, since I haven't really found a cheaper service for the overseas calls that I make, though it did go up about 30% for the locations I use , also I don't use the unlimited monthly overseas plans since they don't cover mobile calls, also thanks god the service hasn't been down for while now.
(I don't think the international rates will go down anytime soon due to dollar being so low these days)
I do use a quite a bit of national calling and i wouldn't mind that going down , it'll save me a few bucks.
all together I feel you have good service , you just need to get more organized and make sure all these new things you like to do, doesn't make the service unreliable, as it was a few months ago. I feel it was a good exchange the prices hiked a little but no more down service , I guess you get what you get for. |
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voip_user
join:2006-06-14
Middletown, CT
·VoiceStick
| Same here .. I was using VS for my international calls and was happy using it as a backup home phone and expected it to get some free incoming calls. However with VS now charging incoming and monthly fees i have started to re-think. I already moved my outgoing international calls to other provider and am considering moving to other PAYG VOIP providers (with VS international calling rates and free incoming was cheaper than just using 2 seperate providers for international and PAYG VOIP) |
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navjun
join:2005-05-10 |  reply to BruceN
Bruce ,
Can you please explain why VS charges for calling toll free numbers? |
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Seaslug
@bu.edu
| reply to BruceN
Allow signups with no money down, which is the way callcentric does it. That way people can use their voicestick userid number: 17xxxxxxxxx, and they can call the numbers of other voicestick users for free.
The nice thing is that by registering their ata to voicestick, people will have a sip url like 17xxxxxxxxx@i2telcom.com, or whatever the domain would be, and they can have gizmoproject forward calls to the domain, or be called directly by other people who have an ata.
No revenue to voicestick, but little or no cost, and it encourages people to 'work' with voicestick and might encourage them to put some money down for a DID or outbound calling.
And why not copy sipbroker and fwd, and let people who are registered to voicestick make use of the access codes that you can find at the sipbroker site:
»tinyurl.com/2nqxeq
They seem to be standard. For example, If I am registered to sipbroker, I can pick up the phone and dial *39388xxxx and ring the phone of a fwd subscriber.
If I dial *4621777251xxxx, I will be connected to a callcentric subscriber.
This is all ata to ata.
Sipbroker also allows a subscriber to have a 3 digit or more alias that is forwarded to some sip address. For example, I have an alias at sipbroker which points to my callcentric sip url. So anyone could dial, via fwd or gizmo, *0111xxx, and my callcentric phone would ring.
I think having this kind of additional connectivity would tend to push voicestick into the sip mainstream.
It would also help standardize these access codes and encourage people to use them. |
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jenom
join:2006-02-25
Ontario, GTA
| reply to BruceN
Re:Voicestick with SPA2100 ATA and X-Lite
I have a Linksys SPA-2100 ATA , which worked before with voicestick OK.
However, since they changed the outbound proxy,(and perhaps something else) I am unable to register with my ATA device.
Tried it with X-Lite soft-phone also, --registration error 503 !
The voicestick softphone works fine from my computer.
Would like to verify the correct settings for the "PROXY" and "OUTBOUND PROXY"
Proxy: i2telecom.com ????
Outbound Proxy: 72.5.80.116 ?????
If I can not solve this problem , I am just going to use up my account balance with voicestick softphone, and leave ! |
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BruceN
Hi
join:2006-11-17
Roswell, GA
·Future Nine Corpor..
·AT&T U-Verse
·Comcast
| reply to navjun
Re: [VoiceStick] Well I am back and in charge of VoiceStick
Yeah thanks for the input. As to the toll free number charge, we pay to have this traffic terminated. We SHOULD not be paying, but that is a long story.
I think when we make the change oer to the new switch that this might go away. THANKS for reminding me. It is something that needs to be fixed, and it had fallen off my list.
As to the value of the dollar falling and impacting rates, lets not go there. Else we will discuss politics endlessly.
If you are only using VS for outbound, you may just want to only have a SIP number with us. It will save e911 and such.
I am going to work on line cost changes today (Down not up) |
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BruceN
Hi
join:2006-11-17
Roswell, GA | reply to voip_user
Going to work on line costs today. |
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