Tracking People Via Cell Phone > I'm all for being tracked

I'm all for being tracked

please, please please, tell me you're being facetious.
it's not that you have nothing to fear of being tracked if you're doing nothing wrong.
it's the sheer principal of the thing.
it's that if you HAVEN'T done anything wrong, why ARE they tracking you?
what happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

reply to BodyBumper
Everyone who makes this type of statement makes the same bad assumption: that only right-intentioned law enforcement will get or use the information.
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reply to BodyBumper
You're assuming that the government has power over the people and not the other way around. Have you given up so soon?

I'm so sick and tired of the argument over "to protect our nation"... We all know dubya was 100% honest about everything he did, including his real intentions, right?

This is no different a statement than concealed gun laws... or the right to carry laws. They are all going to make us safer.. from who? Other lawful people? Criminals don't use the typical systems. If someone was a true criminal, or 'terrorist' (just say it) then they are going to use one of the thousand of pre-paid 'cash' phones they already purchased up to evade tracking.

So, care to re-think that statement?

I will NEVER, *EVER* be on the side of things being "ok because we have nothing to hide".. because no one is going to plant the ID chip in me just because they have it.

Giving up liberty is idiotic! The solution to the problem is not abusing personal liberties and freedoms.. the solution is to correct the inept people making ineffective laws in the first place, and furthermore, cutting back on the number of BS laws that create so many criminals in which feed a hungry legal system in the first place. I wonder how many cell phones, in California, helped put those 3-strike candy-bar-stealing criminals behind bars?

The moral to the story is that if you look at ANYONE hard enough, you WILL find that someone has broken some law somewhere. Still want to be tracked?

reply to BodyBumper
Tell it to all the innocent people who have been convicted and imprisoned. Thankfully a few have since been exonerated and released, but even so irretrievably lost a great part of their life, and I do not mean just the years of denied freedom.

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And who's investigating all those who were executed to ensure they were not innocent? Yep nobody checks up on dead men.

Oh and to think that the people will get up and do something about this government is impossible. They say axe medicare and social security and trust in your 401k's. If you've watched the news 5.1 trillion dollars was lost in Janurary.

So explain to me when your grandparents and parents are too old or frail to work, get kicked out of their homes because they no longer have income, and depend on you to provide medical care for them, where will you go for vacation, what shiny new piece of technology will you buy?

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reply to fiberguy
Awww and I was so anxious to have more big brother. You know, this stupidity won't end until the government has complete control over our lives. George Bush has set off a dangerous precedence and as long as Americans are dumb enough to accept the "for your own good argument", it'll continue. It's a shame this country is REALLY that dumb. Then again, kiss a few babies, hate a few ethnic groups, oppose gay marriage and abortion, and Wallah you're in with the most idiotic of this country. IE. You can overshadow authoritative motives by simply redirecting the morons above to think of something else. Half this country is really that gullible. Instead of seeing what's being taken away, they're too busy tossing around their bibles trying to spread one form of ignorance, while having the rug pulled out from under them. All the while too busy on their own projects to even notice. For the rest of us, we can sit here and complain but I don't think it does much good when the other half can't see what's happening.

This explains the Good Ol' US of A...

Your video was removed for copyright violation. = /.

Oh good lord...

It wasn't my video anyway.. God forbid a 1:40 second clip be shown to anyone.

reply to fiberguy
I'm with you about being tracked. Its nobody's business but my own. The systems that "protect" us can also bite us in the backside if misused.

As far as concealed carry...you better check the statistics. Everywhere it is legal, crime drops. Use common sense...who's purse would you rather steal? The old lady's who is brandishing her .357 or the woman without?

You are right about criminals not using the typical systems... they already carry whether you like it or not. The guy robbing the bank doesn't care if its also illegal to j-walk.

I enjoyed your post. Its nice to hear from someone who actually thinks.

reply to BodyBumper

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I would have a cell phone only for emergencies and what a horrible, steep price to pay to have a bit of peace of mind in the case of emergency.

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I read Stephen King's Cell. No one would get a cell after reading that thriller! (He doesn't have a cell phone either. I suppose he scared himself). LOL

Prepaid still requires that you buy airtime, minutes, etc. every few months. Oh, I've looked at every cell phone provider, every plan prepaid and otherwise and they are all ripoffs. The hidden "gotchas" and everything else about cell phones is digusting. When HawTel stops having public phones then I will be forced to get a cell phone but until then unless I find a better plan than any of the myriad I have perused...well...no thank you. Besides the prepaid plans have really crappy phones that don't work decently. What good does it have to have one and then it doesn't work when you need it? Here, only Verizon is really good and they are the most expensive provider.

Then there is the battery thing. I hated cordless phones and having to charge them. I went back to a nice corded phone that never needs charging.
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The benefits of having one IMO out weight the minor costs which come no where near a two year cell phone commitment.
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reply to MrMoody

Re: I'm all for being tracked

reply to BodyBumper
Tracking is okay. That way you can catch cheating spouses and end it in divorce court with proof, rather than continue being victimized by slick con spouses.