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Re: Green Party of Sweeden - another name for communists Stop grouping all the rich into one category, it's just as full of fallacy as those you are criticizing. The rich you refer to are not the real rich, they are the thieves. You have yet to specify which people you are even talking about, some examples that aren't the usual Bush and Cheney bashing would be nice because last I checked that is a small group from one sector of the US economy.
While the US system may have its imperfections we at least still have some sliver of opportunity for social mobility, unlike the heavily socialized European countries (cough Germany). Where everyone is nannied into submission.
I like how you put minimum wage at $4-8 an hour. There is a big difference between 4 and 8. Nonetheless, the federal is $5.85, but it changes from state to state. This is a moot point anyway because anyone with basic knowledge of economics would know that minimum wage adjustment does nothing to help the poor as inflation will be one step ahead, because minimum wage causes inflation to begin with.
Oh and please cut the America is censored ad hominem bullshit. I haven't read a newspaper or watched network news in years. I watch the news for entertainment just like it is targeted to be (no not the violent stuff). Occasionally I read the newspaper, but it is incredibly easy to filter facts from opinions. My mind doesn't even register opinions anymore.
Americans have mortgages they can't afford because they were duped by the the lenders, but since the concept of personal responsibility is gone in this country we blame it on the big bad megacorps who are the ones now taking the hit anyway. Well not exactly they are getting bailed out, but don't you worry they'll be back again with pie in the sky deals and the American consumer will once again have his 15 seconds of fortune and then the cycle happens all over again! Everybody loses.
40-80k is not meager depending on where you are, especially if that sum is not taxable, which was my original point.
Don't get me wrong I don't support the present structure whole heartedly, but what you were advocating was putting a temporary solution by ostracizing the group that creates the jobs in the first place. |
| The basis of real social mobility is access to higher education regardless of income, not the largely illusory "American Dream" or whatever you're alluding to.
I don't believe the case with social mobility in Germany (and Britain too for that matter) is primarily because of taxes and government policy. I think it is mostly based in history and culture. The class distinction is much more mentally alive in those countries than compared to the USA, where the whole country (almost) was populated by immigrants and it didn't matter much if your last name started with "von". |
