 SnickerdoPremium
join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON | reply to texans20
Re: Not Allowed said by texans20:I've found that the WM 5 and WM 6 devices work with Exchange much better than the BlackBerrys. ... then you don't know what you're doing. A Blackberry with BES will blow a WM device out of the water and use a crapload less on-air data to boot. Any organization that is serious about how their BBs are used will have their own BES server.
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San Antonio, TX | said by Snickerdo:said by texans20:I've found that the WM 5 and WM 6 devices work with Exchange much better than the BlackBerrys. ... then you don't know what you're doing. A Blackberry with BES will blow a WM device out of the water and use a crapload less on-air data to boot. Any organization that is serious about how their BBs are used will have their own BES server. Completely agree. |
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kudos:1 | reply to Snickerdo
Agreed.. used WM device for a couple of years, the bb is much better and nicer to use.
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yahtzeePremium
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Richmond, VA | reply to Snickerdo
said by Snickerdo:said by texans20:I've found that the WM 5 and WM 6 devices work with Exchange much better than the BlackBerrys. ... then you don't know what you're doing. A Blackberry with BES will blow a WM device out of the water and use a crapload less on-air data to boot. Any organization that is serious about how their BBs are used will have their own BES server. +1 |
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said by Snickerdo:said by texans20:I've found that the WM 5 and WM 6 devices work with Exchange much better than the BlackBerrys. ... then you don't know what you're doing. A Blackberry with BES will blow a WM device out of the water and use a crapload less on-air data to boot. Any organization that is serious about how their BBs are used will have their own BES server. Can't afford BES, our budget per year for equipment and IT software is less than $20,000, we support 155 users. Most of that is spent buying new hardware, and anti-virus licenses for each machine come from our budget. The WM devices work with no additional software to purchase. BES might be fantastic, it sure looks like it, but on our razor thin budget we have to go with what's already there.
I guess the experience depends on the mobile devices. Most of our users are on WM Smartphone Edition, and while the interface might not be as good as a BlackBerry that's not my problem. I do use WM6 and it's a big improvement as far as reliability, and WM6.1 due out this summer looks stunning, so the interface is catching up. I've had a WM5 Q and a WM6 Q9, the Q9 is extraordinary and works great with our E2k7 setup.
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SnickerdoPremium
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Niagara Falls, ON | said by texans20:Can't afford BES, our budget per year for equipment and IT software is less than $20,000, we support 155 users. Most of that is spent buying new hardware, and anti-virus licenses for each machine come from our budget. The WM devices work with no additional software to purchase. BES might be fantastic, it sure looks like it, but on our razor thin budget we have to go with what's already there. If you're paying per meg for data access on the cell network, the amount of bandwidth saved by switching from WM to BB on BES alone will justify the cost, and even then there are companies that specialize in hosting BES for smaller organizations... though, 155 people is hardly small. The company I work for maintains dedicated BES installations for as little as 30 users. You guys are either really cheap, or don't understand just how much more useful BES is.
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How about we have 12. About 90 % of the users are affected by the RIM outage.
My Moto Q is unaffected and my lg voyager is unaffected by the outage. While I like the BES servers ( so easy to maintain except all the queue stall traps  ) Exchange users are still purring along because it doesn't all go through RIM.
I think compressing messages and sending them compressed to hand helds to decompress would give us the same bandwidth savings as the bb.
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SnickerdoPremium
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Niagara Falls, ON | said by BosstonesOwn:I think compressing messages and sending them compressed to hand helds to decompress would give us the same bandwidth savings as the bb. That's what a Blackberry and BES does, whereas a WM device just connects to OMA through SSL and pulls the data from there. WM and Mobile ActiveSync isn't exactly a very elegant solution.
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| Yeah i know , thats why I posted it.
I was thinking about it for WM devices. Which would give the same bandwidth savings.
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The small biz version of BES is free for your first device, and the CALs (up to 15, I believe) are less than $100 each. Best of all, the software will run on a workstation-class machine. |
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