Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
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Re: Scary
Not just scary but having cheap unlicensed mobile devices like this share broadcast spectrum is a bad idea in the first place because there will be malfunctioning devices. Some of the devices will undoubtedly make it across international borders causing even more problems. If this was really about providing rural broadband then we would be talking about fixed location devices using white spaces in areas where there is no possibility of interference. |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
| Fearmongering, what a quaint strategy.
The real reason is the studios are afraid that people will be able to use the devices to access their premium content like ... NASCAR Total Access where they charge 10 bucks a month or whatever to be able to get different viewing angles and access to the in car cameras. And lots of SPAM.
So basically they want the spectrum, and anyone else who wants to utilize it is unwelcome competition.
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Thespis
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
Premium
join:2004-08-03
Keller, TX
| said by gaforces  :Fearmongering, what a quaint strategy. The real reason is the studios are afraid that people will be able to use the devices to access their premium content like ... NASCAR Total Access where they charge 10 bucks a month or whatever to be able to get different viewing angles and access to the in car cameras. And lots of SPAM. So basically they want the spectrum, and anyone else who wants to utilize it is unwelcome competition. I believe that the reason the NAB is against use of whitespace is because broadcasters have millions of dollars invested in wireless equipment (cameras, communication systems, microphones, etc) that already use this spectrum. The wireless mics I currently have operate on this spectrum and would probably be subject to interference. If they're useless, it would cost me about $3000 to replace them. That's just 6 mics... |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | reply to gaforces
Do you have anything to back that up?
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cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA | reply to Sammer
you can apply that to ANY radio transmitter, not just the 'white space' devices. i don't see how that point is valid in this context. |
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cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA
| reply to Thespis
i highly doubt your microphones operate in that same spectrum as these 'white space' devices would mainly based on the fact that they could never get certification from the fcc to operate in the already used TV bands. my guess it that your microphones operate in an ISM band. plus the the white space devices should be aware that some small range of frequencies is being used and should not transmit in that range. |
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RadioDoc
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 ·AT&T Midwest
2 edits | Wireless microphones are licensed as Low Power Auxiliary Stations in the TV bands. See 47 CFR 74.801-882.
Operating term here: Licensed.
Link to rules for your reference.
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Thespis
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
Premium
join:2004-08-03
Keller, TX
| reply to cornelius785
said by cornelius785 :i highly doubt your microphones operate in that same spectrum as these 'white space' devices would mainly based on the fact that they could never get certification from the fcc to operate in the already used TV bands. my guess it that your microphones operate in an ISM band. plus the the white space devices should be aware that some small range of frequencies is being used and should not transmit in that range. I highly doubt you have any idea what you're talking about... |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA | reply to Thespis
I haven't seen where the testing confirmed any interference.
If they do interfere with licensed spectrum, then they shouldn't be approved. |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
1 edit | reply to RadioDoc
One of the earlier threads on this subject had some info on a stadium that was using, or had plans to use the spectrum for premium event coverage.
Looks like most the broadcasters are using Sprint to broadcast ATM. They could probably save a bundle if they could do it themselves.
NFL has the Total Access, NASCAR has the TrackPass »www.nascar.com/trackpass/ |
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RadioDoc
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·AT&T Midwest
| There is nothing there to validate your accusation of "fearmongering".
The users in that spectrum are licensed whether they are a broadcast TV station or Low Power Auxilliary Stations. This discussion conveniently omits that fact. This "white space" initiative is an attempt to grab spectrum without proper engineering justification.
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
2 edits | Aren't the "white space" areas between the channels that TV stations have license for? |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | The white space areas are channels that have no local broadcast station licensed on them, but they are rarely completely unused. The TV channels themselves have no "spaces" between them.
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
| So they were established as buffer channels to prevent bleed-over. The low power stations don't interfere, but these devices will?
I don't see why they cant share, which will win, broadcast hogs, or bandwidth hogs?  |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| There are no 'buffer channels'. The Low Power Auxiliary Stations are on assigned frequencies, have strict requirements for equipment performance and are licensed. They are also operated by professionals. That is a lot different than what has been proposed with these so-called "white space" devices.
It is not a matter of sharing. It is about preventing another CB debacle.
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