dualsub2006
join:2007-07-18
Newport, KY | reply to BosstonesOwn
Re: Ads?
Adblock would likely let it past, but NoScript won't if you configure it right. They can collect all of my browsing habits that they want as I'll never see their ads. |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
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said by wentlanc  :You're right, bandwidth is not free. I'm paying for mine. Why do you expect me to pay for yours? If you can't turn a profit, then go out of business. I'm not obligated to support you. cw Funny this is the same logic (or lack thereof) used by
spammers to justify flooding our email with their crap.
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | Not at all. I'm not trying to profit from anyone, and I'm only using bandwidth of websites that are making themselves available. Good try though. |
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TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
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join:2000-11-08
Brooklyn NYC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to BF69
said by BF69 :... Net effect is that you are still freeloading and using bandwith. Bandwith isn't free Einstien. ... Freeloading? What utter stupid nonsense! I pay dearly for my bandwidth! You get it free? Your bandwidth is paid for by advertising? What ISP do you use? I would love to know. I would gladly see adverts if I got a rebate on my bandwidth charges...
Einstein? More like dumbfkof!
Get real!
Bob
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TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
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join:2000-11-08
Brooklyn NYC
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to dualsub2006
said by dualsub2006 :... NoScript won't if you configure it right. They can collect all of my browsing habits that they want as I'll never see their ads. Not so! You allow scripts here on dslr, if not, you can't use the "tools". So, a script comes to your browser, with an advert, it is forged to look like it came from dslr, you WILL see it ... there is no way to stop this!
Bob
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TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
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join:2000-11-08
Brooklyn NYC
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Doctor Four
said by Doctor Four :Funny this is the same logic (or lack thereof) used by spammers to justify flooding our email with their crap. Wrong! It's the exact opposite! Spammers are stealing and riding the bandwidth which WE pay for to flood us with their adverts and wares. I pay my ISP for bandwidth, and spammers are using my paid resources to force ads on me.
This is exactly what this system is attempting to do. They are not any different than the spammers. You got it exactly backwards.
Bob
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espaeth
Digital Plumber
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
 ·voip.ms
·Vitelity VOIP
·Callcentric
·VoiceStick
·ViaTalk
 ·Comcast
·Embarq
| reply to BosstonesOwn
said by BosstonesOwn :Just like Sandvine , they can forge tcp packets with DPI , it depends on how crafty they get. Puking out a copy of a captured packet with the RST bit set to 1 and injecting viable content into an existing TCP session and having it properly render are completely different scenarios.
You're talking about the difference between building a paper airplane and building a space shuttle. To do the ad injection you would have to pass all port-80 traffic through content engines which could adjust the composition of the layer7 data to ensure proper rendering by web browsers. |
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espaeth
Digital Plumber
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join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
·voip.ms
·Vitelity VOIP
·Callcentric
·VoiceStick
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
·Embarq
| reply to Karl Bode
said by Karl Bode :I also am consistently annoyed that providers whine about funding upgrades and p2p users when they're consistently finding these new revenue streams without lowering prices. I'm not sure that's entirely correct.
Comcast, for example, hasn't raised prices in at least the last 6 years, meanwhile inflation has marched on. If you adjust for inflation then the price does indeed go down each year, and speeds have increased from 1.5/3mbps to 6/8mbps over that same period. |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | I would suspect some of that non-price-increase has been borne by cable TV subs. They are not prohibited from cross-subsidy.
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | $40-50 VoIP helps too I'm sure. |
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