TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
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Brooklyn NYC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Doctor Four
Re: Ads?
said by Doctor Four  :Funny this is the same logic (or lack thereof) used by spammers to justify flooding our email with their crap. Wrong! It's the exact opposite! Spammers are stealing and riding the bandwidth which WE pay for to flood us with their adverts and wares. I pay my ISP for bandwidth, and spammers are using my paid resources to force ads on me.
This is exactly what this system is attempting to do. They are not any different than the spammers. You got it exactly backwards.
Bob
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TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
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Brooklyn NYC
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to dualsub2006
said by dualsub2006 :... NoScript won't if you configure it right. They can collect all of my browsing habits that they want as I'll never see their ads. Not so! You allow scripts here on dslr, if not, you can't use the "tools". So, a script comes to your browser, with an advert, it is forged to look like it came from dslr, you WILL see it ... there is no way to stop this!
Bob
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TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
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Brooklyn NYC
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| reply to BF69
said by BF69 :... Net effect is that you are still freeloading and using bandwith. Bandwith isn't free Einstien. ... Freeloading? What utter stupid nonsense! I pay dearly for my bandwidth! You get it free? Your bandwidth is paid for by advertising? What ISP do you use? I would love to know. I would gladly see adverts if I got a rebate on my bandwidth charges...
Einstein? More like dumbfkof!
Get real!
Bob
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | reply to Doctor Four
Not at all. I'm not trying to profit from anyone, and I'm only using bandwidth of websites that are making themselves available. Good try though. |
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Doctor Four
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said by wentlanc :You're right, bandwidth is not free. I'm paying for mine. Why do you expect me to pay for yours? If you can't turn a profit, then go out of business. I'm not obligated to support you. cw Funny this is the same logic (or lack thereof) used by
spammers to justify flooding our email with their crap.
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dualsub2006
join:2007-07-18
Newport, KY | reply to BosstonesOwn
Adblock would likely let it past, but NoScript won't if you configure it right. They can collect all of my browsing habits that they want as I'll never see their ads. |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| reply to BF69
If I never visit your site, and never click on your ad, then perhaps you can explain how I'm freeloading?
You're right, bandwidth is not free. I'm paying for mine. Why do you expect me to pay for yours? If you can't turn a profit, then go out of business. I'm not obligated to support you.
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jgkolt
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Lakewood, OH
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bf i think you are missing the point. We don't want isp's injecting ads where the content creators didn't design them to be. Granite we dont want them at all but this new technique for adding ads to a page is sneaky and almost adaware ish.
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to wentlanc
said by wentlanc :Bingo. I will NEVER click them, so I will block them. The net effect to websites who rely on advertising $$ == 0. cw Net effect is that you are still freeloading and using bandwith. Bandwith isn't free Einstien. It's people that use adblock is why we stupid crap like this coming along. on day most of the internet will belike cable and you'll have to subscribe to every site you want to visit. Thanks Adblockers. |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
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Can you say how do you fight the tide ?
Ad block plus only works if you know the ip. With this equipment they can forge the packets and make ads from a different ip every time. Not to mention they can use the devices ip or another ip from say I dunno the gateway of your head end or cloud and you don't allow ads you don't get on the web.
Pretty crafty devices.
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TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
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·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Chiyo
said by Chiyo :I know severla people will yell "USE TOR" but in my opinion Tor SUCKS too much damn work and slows down my surfing. Very true. Perhaps what we need is a grass-roots consumer user movement to enhance the tor network. If we all give up just a little bit of bandwidth, we could, as a community of interest, make NebuAd as well as illegal government surveillance irrelevant.
Bob
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | reply to Chris 313
Bingo. I will NEVER click them, so I will block them. The net effect to websites who rely on advertising $$ == 0.
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Chiyo
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| reply to Chris 313
So why do the rates keep rising and rising? This is unfair and the customer doesn't have a say in this.
Many people don't have another option and if they need / want HSI they must go with these greedy ISPs.
Anyone want to start an ISP of VPNs or something? just use my HSI account to tunnel into another network and do what I want with all my privacy intact?
I know severla people will yell "USE TOR" but in my opinion Tor SUCKS too much damn work and slows down my surfing. |
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Chris 313
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| reply to dadkins
said by dadkins :Ads? We no see no stinking ads!  Can we say Adblock Plus? |
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