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Thaler
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said by Matt  :A copy for which you haven't paid. So yes, it is stealing. Look up Title 17. Wait...how are you stealing a copy without paying...when you don't even have a copy of said item?
Aborting the download isn't akin to stealing whatsover, unless there's some category of law that addresses "intent to commit copyright infringement". Last I checked, infringement was rather a binary offense - either you've downloaded a copy of said material, or you haven't. | |
Matt
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1 edit | said by Thaler :said by Matt :A copy for which you haven't paid. So yes, it is stealing. Look up Title 17. Wait...how are you stealing a copy without paying...when you don't even have a copy of said item? Aborting the download isn't akin to stealing whatsover, unless there's some category of law that addresses "intent to commit copyright infringement". Last I checked, infringement was rather a binary offense - either you've downloaded a copy of said material, or you haven't. If you only download a portion and not the entire work, you're right, there isn't a law covering that yet. But we're specifically talking bittorrent which means you are uploading as well, which facilitates (assists) others in copyright infringement.
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karlmarx
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| Now you're just talking double talk. You CAN'T quote a different law to charge someone with a 'supposed crime' from the first law. They are TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS. The first event is 'downloading the file'. the second event is 'sharing a file'. And again, I state, UNTIL YOU GET or GIVE 100% of the file TO ME, or get it FROM ME, you have NO PROOF that I actually did the transfer.
What if I created a fake rar file called 'brittney spears.mp3' and put it on a torrent site. UNTIL you get 100% of it from me, you have NO IDEA what it is. Period.
Again, if you want to use the law as a hammer to hit people, you have to follow the LETTER of the law, not the spirit. And mediasentry and the like are NOT following the letter of the law, they are making accusations based on incomplete information.
If I was serving up the file from a web server, THEN, and ONLY THEN, IF IT WAS REAL, could I be charged. Getting 'part' of a file from me, not the ENTIRE file from me, is NOT PROOF that a violation occurred.
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