Penguins
Have You Played Atari Today?
join:2001-12-01
Cleveland, OH
| Strange SMTP problems.
I use authenticated SMTP and everything was working fine for the last few months, but every time I try to send e-mail now I get this error. Well, not every time, if I try 20 times it might finally go through.
Any ideas? I did what it says and checked my 'alternate e-mail address' in the webmail, but I still cant sent mail via Thunderbird.
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jsinaiko
Premium
join:2001-04-25
Chicago, IL
 ·AT&T Midwest
| I got that tonight - for the first time ever.
I do not use my main account as my email address. I think (may be wrong) that this is a new yahoo thing.
I went to the link in the error message and it told me how to "authenticate" an email address that is NOT my main account address. As many advocate here, I think it is a mistake to use your main account address as your email address.
Anyhow, I went through the steps of "authenticating" it. It involves going into your account in ATT/Yahoo, going to Member Center and then to My Account & Billing.
There you click on "View/Edit Contact Information, Marketing preferences, etc." which is under "Personal Information."
In there you find "Yahoo! alternate email addresses" and click on the "Edit" button.
You then type in your "alternate email address" and it sends you an email with a link you have to click. Blah, blah, blah.
It took me a bout 1/2 hour and a LOT of failed sends to figure it out. it was a big PITA. It would be nice if ATT or Yahoo would let us know about this stuff, especially because most of us agree that using ones main address is not best practice.
Anyone else have this issue? It just started tonight. As soon as I "verified" my "alternate" address it started working again.
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miser
join:2004-01-16
Sandusky, OH
| I am getting the same thing and was just about to post.
I have "many" alternate e-mail addresses since I run postfix on my home network. How can I verify them all?
Any info would be appreciated. Heck I even tried using port 587 and TLS to try to use encryption through postfix and I get the same error. |
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jsinaiko
Premium
join:2001-04-25
Chicago, IL | Follow my instructions above - you will see how you can verify multiple addresses.
I guess this is an anti spoofing, spamming, and phishing measure.
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miser
join:2004-01-16
Sandusky, OH
edit:
February 12th, @09:20PM
| said by jsinaiko  :Follow my instructions above - you will see how you can verify multiple addresses. I guess this is an anti spoofing, spamming, and phishing measure. Now THAT really stinks. That essentially means I have to verify every address even if I want to create a throw away one temporarily. All in the name of "spam control".
I wonder if it would be easier to get my port 25 unblocked (no spam zombies here, I run Linux/postfix with proper relay control) and not deal with this nonsense.
EDIT: Answering part of my own question, port 25 unblock would probably be problematic since I'm on a dynamic address and most high profile mail servers would probably reject me.
I say again. This REALLY stinks.  |
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jsinaiko
Premium
join:2001-04-25
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| I have found that it's no problem to get Port 25 unblocked if you ask. If you are running a lot of addresses, including temp ones, it may be the easier fix.
Or, they may make you "verify" anyhow.
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Penguins
Have You Played Atari Today?
join:2001-12-01
Cleveland, OH
| Went thought the verification but still can't send, even made sure the addresses match.
About unblocking port 25, if you try to deliver mail directly from a dynamic dsl address almost all ISPs will reject it as spam outright.
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miser
join:2004-01-16
Sandusky, OH
| said by Penguins :Went thought the verification but still can't send, even made sure the addresses match. About unblocking port 25, if you try to deliver mail directly from a dynamic dsl address almost all ISPs will reject it as spam outright. 10-4 on the port 25. I edited my one reply above to reflect that.
As far as the verification, I just send a test message and it went through (according to the logs) WITHOUT me verifying anything, so it seems to give the error intermittently. |
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jsinaiko
Premium
join:2001-04-25
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to Penguins
It worked for me - you got the email and responded to it by clicking the link?
They actually may have made me do something once I got back to the verification page too - I don't remember.
It really is clumsy and a pain in the butt. I would go back to the email, click the link again, and make sure I'm doing everything they friggin tell me to.
You may have to go back into the "Yahoo! alternate email addresses" page - I dunno.
But it certainly is dumb. The rejected mail sent on port 25 must be fairly new - i haven't encountered it before.
Anyhow, keep on trying with the verification thing - it took me a couple of tires, but it is now working fine.
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MikeStammer
No prison can hold me
Premium
join:2002-12-26
Aurora, IL | reply to Penguins
i am seeing this too and yea, it sucks. doing the whole verify thing now. =( |
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miser
join:2004-01-16
Sandusky, OH
| said by MikeStammer :i am seeing this too and yea, it sucks. doing the whole verify thing now. =( GRRRRRRR.
I've gone through the verify process and it is NOT working. Even clicked on the link went through all the hullabaloo.
Would posting in Direct help? Think anyone in there could get this removed/get my account exempted?
I hope there is a big backlash against this so this doesn't last very long. |
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xPanManX
join:2001-09-18
Maryland Heights, MO
| reply to jsinaiko
This is totally uncool to be caught off-guard without so much as an email notification. Freakin' ATT.
(Something to think about: what's going to happen when they turn this on for INBOUND SMTP traffic? Wouldn't be very hard at all to read the unencrypted SMTP packets and verify the recepient against a database of registered addresses.)
At least the verification process was relatively painless.
I wonder what's going to happen should I hit my head on the limit of 10 alternate addresses. |
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jsinaiko
Premium
join:2001-04-25
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| OK, so it worked for you?
Because it did for me as well, but it seems not to have for a bunch of other posters.
This looks like a Yahoo thing to me - and one of the major issues those of us who have ATT as a provider face is the seeming inability of the left hand, Yahoo and the right hand ATT, to talk to each other!
And why is that? These outfits have a zillion dollar deal going and they can't trouble themselves with letting customers know what they are up to?
It is annoying.
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xPanManX
join:2001-09-18
Maryland Heights, MO | said by jsinaiko :OK, so it worked for you? Ayup. |
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dl97ag
join:2001-06-11
Dallas, TX
| reply to Penguins
Same thing happened to me. Forget messing with the alt addy verification... switching all accts to use Gmail servers instead!
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DavidEBSmith
Premium
join:2005-12-23
Chicago, IL
| reply to Penguins
Yah, I get the same thing. And I added a few extra email addresses, but now when I go into My Yahoo!, Member Center, Manage Mail Options, it tells me Yahoo! is down.
Theres one step in the process where it wants you to enter POP server info. I think you dont want to do that or it will retrieve all your mail into your Yahoo account. |
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xPanManX
join:2001-09-18
Maryland Heights, MO
| said by DavidEBSmith :Theres one step in the process where it wants you to enter POP server info. You're in a different place than I went to. For me it was in the Change Personal Information area of the Member Center. |
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xPanManX
join:2001-09-18
Maryland Heights, MO | reply to Penguins
Joy of joys - THE ALTERNATE ADDRESSES ARE CASE SENSITIVE. |
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DavidEBSmith
Premium
join:2005-12-23
Chicago, IL
| reply to xPanManX
said by xPanManX You're in a different place than I went to. For me it was in the Change Personal Information area of the Member Center.
[/BQUOTE :Yah, there's different ways of getting to it. Also a couple different mail interfaces, apparently. Oh, and you have to enter your Yahoo! password every ******* time you verify an address. |
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RadioDoc
Sortofadog
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to Penguins
Good thing I don't use Yahoo servers to send with. A basically good idea botched by the AT&T Yahoo!s. Why the hell can't they just incorporate the account information they already have instead of relying on customers to do their work for them?
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