Hazy Arc
join:2006-04-10
Greenwood, SC | reply to jc100
Re: Satellite Broadband?
The only problem with that is the vast majority of rural communities do NOT have EVDO or 3G service yet. They are rural, after all. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | reply to BF69
Do they expect city water? Do they expect sewer service? What about free garbage pickup? There are some trade offs to living out in the boonies just like there are trade offs to living in the city. |
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Nuts
join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH | reply to bolt
At least you can get Insight to answer you. I've asked Time Warner what it would take to get service, and never get a response from them. |
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bolt
Former Broadband Exile
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Charlestown, IN
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
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I live 3 miles outside of town. Just out of reach for DSL. Insight cable ends 1/2 mile down the road. Insight quoted me $9000 to set me up. I understand they are having problems getting cable to some of the new homes up the road and many of them have been going with our local WISP. An Insight rep told me that they have to have 10 houses per line mile to break even. There's never going to be 10 houses per line mile, at least not in my lifetime.
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Island Jeff
join:2005-07-18
 ·WildBlue
 ·TDS
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250 MB a day or less is fine?
With wildblue staying below the 80% mark so I don't have to worry about FAP I get 431 MB per day on the download side.
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Most of my peers would probably better off with EVDO though.
Here we don't even have reliable voice coverage much less 144 kbps cell coverage. EVDO would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath it will get here in the next 12-24 months.
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SkyWay USA is not that way. They offer their base service plan at only $29.95 per month and equipment only costs $49!
The problem with SkyWay as I understand it is that it still requires dialup uplink, which means a reliable dialup ISP and phoneline which may or may not be available, ties up or requires an additional phone line which costs around $25/month here, is not "always on", and has very very slow upload speeds making interactive activities like sending or uploading photos as slow as over dialup. But I'm sure it's ideal for some. For me, I sure am glad to have wildblue (and hughes) that now have fairly fast upload speeds at last in the 250kbps range for a more balanced "broadband linke" experience.
Overall, Satellite isn't nearly as good as any low latency broadband, but it sure is better than dialup. I remember back in 2005 when I signed my wildblue contract after 3 years of starband, a few urged me to wait for the local broadband initive that was just about to get off the ground. Long story short, now 2 1/2 years later after a year of zoning work simply to erect three towers, the local effort is still just about to get off the ground. A year ago cellular one did a demo of their 144kbps data offering, but it didn't work reliably 3 blocks away with a clear line of sight to their antenna at the demo site reliably enough to complete two testmy.net tests in a row, and thats as far as cell has gotten to date. While I'll be as excited as a kid in a candy store when any low latency broadband finally arrives here, I sure am grateful and glad that wildblue and satellite in general has been avaialbe to fill the gap in the meantime.
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CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
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250 MB a day or less is fine?
for many joe blow average person who checked email or grabs a a few pics - yes it is fine for them especially if there is no other choice. If my dad wanted internet it would be one of 2 total choices he would have. |
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factchecker
@cox.net
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said by battleop  :If having access to different types of broadband, cheap and fast, without restrictions then maybe you need to consider moving. Living out in the country has it's trade offs. The only problem with that oft repeated reasoning is if everyone did that, food production in this country would fall to a point that your bread, milk, etc. products would get so expensive that people would start complaining about it like they complain about gas prices. The people who live out in the country sustain those that live in the city. Until we can fully automate farming, that fact dictates that people will always need to live out in the boonies. Hopefully Wimax pans out for those people soon...
That said, boy am I ever glad that I moved to the city from the sticks, despite having had access to DSL and cable... |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by battleop :Their FAP is geared to average joe blow user. I have a relative that uses what ever Dish network resells and he is as happy as can be with it. He gets on. Checks his email, gets some pictures of the grandkids, checks the weather to see what the day is going to be like and gets off. For the "average" user satellite is just fine. 250 MB a day or less is fine?
If having access to different types of broadband, cheap and fast, without restrictions then maybe you need to consider moving. Living out in the country has it's trade offs.
yes that's the solution everyone should move into the cities. that will help things. Let's make them MORE crowded. Real fricken smart idea there guy.
I guess people out in the boonies shoudn't expect electricity, phone service or paved roads either?
By the way my best friend lives maybe 3 miles from city limits. HARDLY out in the "country". He SHOULD have more choices than dial-up or broadband. For some reason TDS serves his aprt of the county. The MILLIONS they get from the USF they should make DSL available to him. Especially since he paying into the USF in the first place. |
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
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Honestly, if you live in a rural area but have access to cell towers, I would go for sprint's evdo. Obviously, cell towers are much easier to construct than laying fiber through mountains and such. Hence, the likelihood that one can get a connection using this entity is better. If this were the case, EVDO offers unlimited data usage and speeds ranging from 1mbit / 128 (using your phone with cord). to 3mbits / 768 using a data card. Not too bad if someone has few options. The only drawback of course, is ping, but from my experience using this service on the road, I obtain around 200-300 ms. Nothing that horrible at least. |
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bolt
Former Broadband Exile
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Charlestown, IN | reply to battleop
I'm good. I have a WISP now. They have moved into areas that telcos and cable cos do not want to service. Far better and cheaper than either ISDN or satellite. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000
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Their FAP is geared to average joe blow user. I have a relative that uses what ever Dish network resells and he is as happy as can be with it. He gets on. Checks his email, gets some pictures of the grandkids, checks the weather to see what the day is going to be like and gets off. For the "average" user satellite is just fine.
If having access to different types of broadband, cheap and fast, without restrictions then maybe you need to consider moving. Living out in the country has it's trade offs. |
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bolt
Former Broadband Exile
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Charlestown, IN
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Honesty, I don't think that the satellite systems available can qualify as broadband. The latency sucks (I understand it's because it is on a satellite). Most FAP policies are very restrictive. For years I picked ISDN over satellite for these and other reasons. For rural peeps, wireless is the best hope. |
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