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Surfinusa
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Re: [POLL] Immunity or not; what say you?

said by amigo_boy See Profile :

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

I can almost hear TK trying to figure out proxies so he can tinker with the votes
Actually, I got the impression this would be a tactic of those opposed to immunity. They seem to be the most frantic about this topic.

Mark
Mark instead of saying Frantic I would use the word concerned.

Proper supervision insures your rights are protected.

Everyone has the right to feel as they do but it might be a little dramatic to say those opposed to immunity could be called frantic.

I think each person has there view and it must be considered and not dismissed because all have valid concerns and it is only fair to hear all voices without labeling those who feel different then we do.


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said by Surfinusa See Profile :

it might be a little dramatic to say those opposed to immunity could be called frantic.
Read the subject lines. "Immunity: No!" Or, the obviously biased editorialism directing people to an activist org. Misquoting founders.

It looks much more frantic to me than those who support immunity.

Mark

Surfinusa
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said by amigo_boy See Profile :

said by Surfinusa See Profile :

it might be a little dramatic to say those opposed to immunity could be called frantic.
Misquoting founders.

It looks much more frantic to me than those who support immunity.

Mark
Misquoting founders?

Explain a little more what you mean?

I understand your concern though. EFF can be zealous about what they do but the check and balance doesn't always balance. Sometimes the scale gets tipped in all democracies.

No form of Government operates perfectly.

Would you agree with that?


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said by Surfinusa See Profile :

Misquoting founders? Explain a little more what you mean?
The Franklin quote which usually omits the qualifiers "essential" and "temporary." Or, just quoting the founders on matters of rights and limited government while ignoring that the founders rejected the most minimal government (Articles of Confederation) after just *eleven* year in favor of a relatively gigantic government, with exceptions like "reasonable" searches, etc.

The founding generation embraced vastly more intrusion of government (relatively speaking) than any other generation since. Why? Because they were pragmatic. Just like modern society. But, you'd never get that from the way self-styled freedom fighters depict those events in absolute terms.

said by Surfinusa See Profile :

No form of Government operates perfectly. Would you agree with that?
I agree completely. That's why I'm not too worked up about what happened. Nothing's been perfect. We've survived. The system worked this time. It's the ones who can't accept this which the telcos should be protected from. (IMO).

Mark
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