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Thaler
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA

reply to openbox9
Re: Where are the...

said by openbox9 See Profile :

How about quickly handling Microsoft's patch Tuesday?
How quick do you really need them? You only need a basic broadband connection to be set for "first day downloads". Wether or not you're running the first patches from "patch Tuesday" within the first 20 minutes of release means *nothing*.

said by openbox9 See Profile :

How about purchasing all of those mp3/mp4 files from Amazon or iTunes?
What, people on 1.5M connections can't use Amazon or iTunes?

said by openbox9 See Profile :

How about Apple's new HD aTV rental mechanism?
I'd imagine it streams well enough over slower "standard" broadband connections.

etc., etc. Again, your average "surfing" grannie isn't going to benefit didly squat from a massive pipe connection. It caters more to those who're going to use the internet for lots of large file transfers - the exact same users Comcast labels as "abusive" once they hit the invisible bandwidth cap.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast

said by Thaler See Profile :

How quick do you really need them?
Reading the posts in this forum, you'd think you need them as quick as possible. Isn't that one of the big arguments for having "fat pipes" into homes?
said by Thaler See Profile :

What, people on 1.5M connections can't use Amazon or iTunes?
Of course they can. People with 1.5 Mbps connections can do almost anything they want on the 'net. See my previous point...besides, I'm not the one begging for 50 Mbps connections that I won't use.
said by Thaler See Profile :

I'd imagine it streams well enough over slower "standard" broadband connections.
Most streams will work fine after a buffering period.
said by Thaler See Profile :

It caters more to those who're going to use the internet for lots of large file transfers - the exact same users Comcast labels as "abusive" once they hit the invisible bandwidth cap.
Give me examples of routine, legitimate large file transfers that will be considered abusive.

Thaler
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA

said by openbox9 See Profile :

Give me examples of routine, legitimate large file transfers that will be considered abusive.
Music, Video, Patches, Software, files, distros, etc.

All those uses are legitimate, and the use/files will begin to add up in terms of GB/month. That's just the thing about bandwidth caps. Any user can it hit, and they can do so downloading legally OR illegaly - it doesn't discriminate for or against file legitimacy.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast

You posted previously that a 1.5 Mbps is more than capable of downloading music, videos, patches, etc. You're playing both sides of the discussion. My point is that more throughput is useful regardless of caps and other restrictions. Normal users don't download/upload 24/7 and therefore more likely won't be affected, i.e. downloading legal music, video, software patches, Linux distros, etc.


fuziwuzi
Not born yesterday
Premium
join:2005-07-01
Atlanta, GA

said by openbox9 See Profile :

You posted previously that a 1.5 Mbps is more than capable of downloading music, videos, patches, etc. You're playing both sides of the discussion. My point is that more throughput is useful regardless of caps and other restrictions. Normal users don't download/upload 24/7 and therefore more likely won't be affected, i.e. downloading legal music, video, software patches, Linux distros, etc.
Comcast thanks you for drinking their kool-aid.

Thaler
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA

reply to openbox9
said by openbox9 See Profile :

My point is that more throughput is useful regardless of caps and other restrictions.
How so? Caps still remain the same. The faster your connection, the more downloads you can whizz through and reach caps quicker.

If anything, a simple 1.5 M connection is probably a good broadband speed to operate on, lest you accidentally bump into Comcast's invisi-caps.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
reply to fuziwuzi
See my other post about not drinking kool-aid, despising American Idol, and being a Mac fan. Try thinking outside of your little box.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast

reply to Thaler
Why is this so difficult to understand? If I use my connection to download 20 iTunes songs, 20 Amazon MP3s, 4 Netflix movies, and upload 5 new videos and 50 new pics of my 1-year old to my website per month, in addition to normal e-mail checking and web surfing, I'd much rather use a 50/5 connection than a 10/1 connection assuming the same cost to me). I won't have any problems with caps and I'll complete my action quicker. I go back to my earlier comment that if you aren't abusing your connection 24/7, more throughput is good and your ISP shouldn't give you a problem.

And of course a simple 1.5 Mbps connection is a good broadband throughput for a vast majority of users. Now if the rest of the "I need fiber and a Gbps connection jacked directly into my head" accepted that, life would be pretty boring around the discussion threads on this site.
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