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Karl Bode
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reply to amigo_boy

Re: [POLL] Immunity or not; what say you?

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I'd go so far as saying that publishing editorials referring readers to biased activist organizations, to send representatives prepared statements goes one more step toward describing who's unbalanced.
Yeah, well I'd troll technology forums with disastrously flawed reason in defense of the crushing of privacy and the wholesale whoring out of the government to the interests of multinational corporations, but people appear to have that wrapped up....

MyDogHsFleas
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said by Karl Bode:

quote:
I'd go so far as saying that publishing editorials referring readers to biased activist organizations, to send representatives prepared statements goes one more step toward describing who's unbalanced.
Yeah, well I'd troll technology forums with disastrously flawed reason in defense of the crushing of privacy and the wholesale whoring out of the government to the interests of multinational corporations, but people appear to have that wrapped up....
Oh man! Bitter much?

I guess my attempts to point out where you are reporting biased stories are falling on deaf ears. I guess I'll not bother. Looks like this site is not a place to go for actual news. Well, it's still great for technical stuff...

amungus
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...Bitter? Karl's politely trying to explain his stance in a calm and logical manner, and granted, there's some sarcasm, but get over yourself.
All of you people who have an ax to grind must have some very dull blades...

Reporting biased stories... you could indeed say that the story is extremely biased towards reality. If you'd prefer bias towards complete and utter fantasy, with thick layers of greased idiocy, you're free to indulge in such misinformation


amigo_boy

join:2005-07-22
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reply to Karl Bode

said by Karl Bode:

Yeah, well I'd troll technology forums with disastrously flawed reason in defense of the crushing of privacy and the wholesale whoring out of the government to the interests of multinational corporations, but people appear to have that wrapped up....
Karl, I appreciate your passion. It's definitely better than the vast majority of Americans who are content with their DVDs and latest video games.

Keep up the good work.

Mark

MyDogHsFleas
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reply to amungus

said by amungus:

...Bitter? Karl's politely trying to explain his stance in a calm and logical manner, and granted, there's some sarcasm, but get over yourself.
All of you people who have an ax to grind must have some very dull blades...
Oh come on. Did I ever use anything like the words "disastrously flawed", "whoring out", "crushing"... ??? And he's calm and logical, and I have an axe to grind?

Reporting biased stories... you could indeed say that the story is extremely biased towards reality. If you'd prefer bias towards complete and utter fantasy, with thick layers of greased idiocy, you're free to indulge in such misinformation
There's a difference between facts and arguments. Objectively, this debate has two sides. For proof, simply look at the vote in the Senate. It was not 100-0. In fact the side you and Karl oppose actually won the vote. So, any reporting that could remotely be called "non-biased" would at least include a summary of the position of the "other side", and their rationale, even if the reporter has to hold his nose while typing it.

That is why I concluded this site is not the place to go for non-biased reporting, and that my attempts to point out to Karl where he could be a reporter and not a water-carrier for one side are not useful.

Hey, I am not the bitter one. I've figured out what's happening here, and I'm OK with it. It's not my site, after all, I don't get to say how it works. Karl's apparently the bitter one that people like me take advantage of the "comments" feature and have differing opinions.

Surfinusa
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reply to MyDogHsFleas

said by MyDogHsFleas:

said by Karl Bode:

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Oh man! Bitter much?

I guess my attempts to point out where you are reporting biased stories are falling on deaf ears. I guess I'll not bother. Looks like this site is not a place to go for actual news. Well, it's still great for technical stuff...
In all actuality BBR site allows people of all kinds to make a noise unlike news reports were you listen and others do the talking.

BBR is a very tolerant site.

The fact BBR has put up with my thoughts show it.

And no not everyone agrees with each other but over all you can respond and defend whom ever you want and talk about what ever you want.

BBR gives users the ability to share there thoughts.

And there is proof because this is a heated topic no moderation has taken place. Yet those that are opposed to liability for actions taken and decisions made by the Bells in favor of the Government seem to have special terms for those who believe the Bells and Government should be held accountable for breaking laws in this case and the Government for not following there own set of laws they created.

Out of fairness let us say BBR is a fair site.

You don't have to agree with the news it reports but BBR doesn't make up news it recieves it from outside sources.

If you think the sources are bias that's your opinion.

Its like a NOSE everyone has one.

You don't have to get up in everyone's face with your nose and point it out but you can exercise your right to.

If that makes any sense.

Being around here since 2001 I feel this is a nice sight like people you meet in person not everyone is nice but you get over it not everyone agrees with you but that's the fact of life.

No one is wrong no one is right when it comes to an opinion.

When it comes down to life and death decisions this is not the place to discuss it.

MyDogHsFleas
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Actually I agree pretty much with your thoughts. Although I'm a little confused by the "life and death decisions" thing.

The forums here seem to be really quite reasonable. And not a lot of "banning" drama. And there's a huge amount of good technical content here.

I'd prefer the news stories to be a bit more objective and balanced. But it's not my site. It is what it is. I'll quit complaining about the news stories. I've said my piece.


amigo_boy

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reply to Surfinusa

said by Surfinusa:

You don't have to agree with the news it reports but BBR doesn't make up news it recieves it from outside sources.

If you think the sources are bias that's your opinion.
I don't think the sources are biased. I do think the introductions are biased, and therefore perhaps the source selection is biased.

I just think the way the introductions are so obviously biased (like a link to EFF to send a pre-concluded comment to your representatives) takes away from DSLR/BBR. It calls into question the site's integrity to providing news rather than perhaps a personal viewpoint.

Otherwise I like DSLR/BBR. The debates are friendly. People don't seem to take things personally even when comments are intended to be taken so. Nobody seems to harbor grudges (except, perhaps JC ).

Mark

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