Re: but but but in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20000900 en Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:56:51 EDT Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:56:51 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20013772 fiberguy : Ok.. so you're falling for the crap.

When I go to try and purchase EVERY POSSIBLE HD NETWORK *AVAILABLE* in my area, no matter what tier it's on.. I still do not come up with what they are claiming. Technically, if they have a regional sports channel which has, say, 10 networks, they can only count 1 of those to the end user if you're not allowed to purchase the network in your viewing area.

They can boast about their technical capability which may be correct, but when they are telling a customer that they have over 90 channels of HD available.. that's just not true.

When I actually did a line up check and counted the actual number of HD networks I could subscribe to, it was about 50. In many comcast systems, today, that's only about 13 networks.

Remove Comcast and their very weak HD commercials (which actually do annoy me even as true as they are) the gaps between Comcast and DirecTV are not THAT great... it's nothing but a horse race.

Cable will, again, pull out in front of Satellite. However, in the end, Satellite will not be able to offer what cable can on their own. Once things like DOCSIS3.0, Mpeg4, SDV, and the analog reclaim roll into full force, they will be able to bury satellite and not even think about it.

One thing people also forget.. while some are saying satellite has gotten on the ball and did something about it, it took satellite 3 years to get these networks up and running - AND THEY ARE THE BIRD COMPANY!.. remember?? they are supposed to be able to launch quicker than terrain based carriers.

Cable has been working towards expansion just as long.. satellite just got to the next check point quicker in this race. Cable/Fiber has a longer run to get to where they need to be.. however, they are nearing that check point too. When they reach their point, cable and fiber will have the advantage over satellite again. It's just a race that goes back and forth.

I, personally, don't see satellite as any great winner right now. They can enjoy their moment in the spotlight, but there are many MANY factors against them they must get over.. they have to evolve more than just from the sky.. they can't compete up there entirely. (Some services HAVE to be ground based) They HAVE to stop locking customers into contracts AND charing them up the ass to upgrade all the time. They HAVE to start diversifying their services on their own and stop the partnering game as that era will soon come to an end.

Cable, in many areas, is no saint as we all know.. but, unless you're blind, customers really really REALLY are not liking the idea of being "locked" into ANYTHING these days.. besides, I'm guessing that government bodies are going to start putting and end to them or at least erode their powers as what is already happening in the LONG over due cellular world. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20013772 Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:59:51 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20006249 mglunt : This page...

»www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/co···P4380112

Shows more than 50, and says it is a sample of what they have. I am just going by that.

Comcast is aiming for a whole 50 by the end of the year. That's a long ways off and they are shooting for 1/3rd as many as Verizon... which is the reason for my comment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20006249 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:30:14 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20006241 Nightfall :
said by JBrown07 See Profile :

said by Nightfall See Profile :

said by Comcablrtl See Profile :

They never advertise having 3 times as many HD "channels"; they advertise more HD content choices...which is true. A customer has access to more HD content, at any given time, than DTV and Dish Net. Personally, I like the idea of being able to access HD on OnDemand, rather than hoping something of interest would be available on DTVs line-up...which doesn't include 85+ unique channels anyway.
Sorry, but that is a crock. My parents have Comcast HD, and when I showed them the HD I have with Directv, they were shocked. They would prefer all their locals were in HD through the Comcast system instead of a OTA antenna. While the In Demand HD channels are nice, they would prefer to have more channels like Science HD and Discovery HD (which isn't available to them yet).

This whole HD content thing used to be easy to figure out. Now you have Comcast counting HD Indemand PPV channels as content. Well, thats all fine and dandy, but it should be graded in terms of channels.
If you read the fine print for DirecTV they include the number of HD PPV channels in the overall total HD channels.

Taken from their own site: "In addition to the channel logos included here, the total channel count includes fifteen HD Pay Per View channels, and eight HD DNS channels."
I know, and as I said before, it should be based on HD channels. Not PPV channels or PPV movie and event "content".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20006241 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:27:50 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20005488 JBrown07 :
said by Nightfall See Profile :

said by Comcablrtl See Profile :

They never advertise having 3 times as many HD "channels"; they advertise more HD content choices...which is true. A customer has access to more HD content, at any given time, than DTV and Dish Net. Personally, I like the idea of being able to access HD on OnDemand, rather than hoping something of interest would be available on DTVs line-up...which doesn't include 85+ unique channels anyway.
Sorry, but that is a crock. My parents have Comcast HD, and when I showed them the HD I have with Directv, they were shocked. They would prefer all their locals were in HD through the Comcast system instead of a OTA antenna. While the In Demand HD channels are nice, they would prefer to have more channels like Science HD and Discovery HD (which isn't available to them yet).

This whole HD content thing used to be easy to figure out. Now you have Comcast counting HD Indemand PPV channels as content. Well, thats all fine and dandy, but it should be graded in terms of channels.
If you read the fine print for DirecTV they include the number of HD PPV channels in the overall total HD channels.

Taken from their own site: "In addition to the channel logos included here, the total channel count includes fifteen HD Pay Per View channels, and eight HD DNS channels."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20005488 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 05:44:01 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20004591 fiberguy : What are you talking about? DirecTV is already lying as well. They claim they have near 100 HD channels now.. last time I checked, there were only 50. (And that was just a week ago) Did they add 50 more last week?

What cracks me up is that everyone is doing this rah rah cheer leading routine for these "evil corporations" yet people are slit on each side of the BS they are flinging at each other.. you all are just caught up in the lies.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20004591 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:10:47 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20004577 fiberguy :
said by Mike See Profile :

I thought comcast had 3 times as many HD channels as Direct TV and 4x as much as Verizon FiOS..... but...... they said on tv.... but....
How funny... you stressed the word "channels" in your comment stating that Comcast is claiming they had 3 times more channels... Can you produce a commercial or ad that states that...? or do you not pay attention like so many others.

Their claims, while weak, state that they have "more HD programs available at any given time"... meaning if you include the linear channels, and then each title available in OnDemand, while technically correct, they DO have more "programs" available in HD at any given time.. they do..

the argument is weak.. but true.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20004577 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:08:00 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20002696 mglunt :
Wow.... Aim high Comcast

While DTV and Verizon are pushing for 100, 150 by the end of the year, Comcast strives for... 50!!!

And those Commercials are meant to mislead the average person into thinking Comcast has more HD channels. No denying their intent.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20002696 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:00:49 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20002410 anon : its not indemand ppv because comcast dont have indemand ppv in hd. they only have ondemand hd content.some you pay for some you dont. i prefer hd on demand then just hd channels because i like picking what i want to watch when i want to watch it instead of settleing for whats on the current hd channel at the time. but for old people i can see your point. older people have a harder time getting use to ondemand. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20002410 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:13:32 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20002384 anon : they did not say channels. they said programing. make sure you listen to what they say and what words they use. i hate it when stupid people to read write. comcast has on demand programing in hd. so comcast has 3x more hd programming not channel. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20002384 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:07:53 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000900 Nightfall :
said by Comcablrtl See Profile :

They never advertise having 3 times as many HD "channels"; they advertise more HD content choices...which is true. A customer has access to more HD content, at any given time, than DTV and Dish Net. Personally, I like the idea of being able to access HD on OnDemand, rather than hoping something of interest would be available on DTVs line-up...which doesn't include 85+ unique channels anyway.
Sorry, but that is a crock. My parents have Comcast HD, and when I showed them the HD I have with Directv, they were shocked. They would prefer all their locals were in HD through the Comcast system instead of a OTA antenna. While the In Demand HD channels are nice, they would prefer to have more channels like Science HD and Discovery HD (which isn't available to them yet).

This whole HD content thing used to be easy to figure out. Now you have Comcast counting HD Indemand PPV channels as content. Well, thats all fine and dandy, but it should be graded in terms of channels. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000900 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:53:26 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000625 Mike : Then why is there a scale of HD networks on that one dumb one that's on every 10 minutes?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000625 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:13:40 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000415 Jovi :
said by NowVOIP See Profile :

lol...instead of "More..More..More!!" it should be "Lies..Lies..Lies!!"
I was just going to post about that commercial. :D
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"Where's my coffee? Oh. I guess it's my turn to make it." :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000415 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:36:42 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000191 Comcablrtl : They never advertise having 3 times as many HD "channels"; they advertise more HD content choices...which is true. A customer has access to more HD content, at any given time, than DTV and Dish Net. Personally, I like the idea of being able to access HD on OnDemand, rather than hoping something of interest would be available on DTVs line-up...which doesn't include 85+ unique channels anyway. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000191 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:56:31 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000077 battleop : More of that Comcast math. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000077 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:35:01 EDT Re: but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000029 NowVOIP : lol...instead of "More..More..More!!" it should be "Lies..Lies..Lies!!"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000029 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:23:31 EDT but but but http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000005 Mike : I thought comcast had 3 times as many HD channels as Direct TV and 4x as much as Verizon FiOS..... but...... they said on tv.... but....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000005 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:19:13 EDT