said by sovtman :

Wait! Let me get this straight. You switched plans today and you saw your performance go dramatically up? Which plan did you switch from and which plan did you switch to?

Do they switch gateways or something when you switch plans? Any one know?

said by Kenstar15 :

Also if you will read the fine print on your contract, somewhere it should say that if u download in excess of 700mb a month you connection will be throttled back to a speed less than dial up .

said by sovtman :

Wait! Let me get this straight. You switched plans today and you saw your performance go dramatically up? Which plan did you switch from and which plan did you switch to?

Do they switch gateways or something when you switch plans? Any one know?

said by jackpot316 :

Well I made a change a few mins ago I called and said I was the son of the US President YEAH RIGHT! Really I called and changed my plan to proplus Wanted to know if it was anywhere close to the plan speed and found out the dl is super the up load is a ittle low but heck with up load I just can not afford 80 bucks a month so after a week I will go back to the home plan I started with and just hang with it and hope something changes. right before I switched I checked my speed on the pro plan and it was 46kbps down and 22kbps down that was around 330pm eastern time so I can not wait to see what this will do first thing in the morning.

February 20th, 05:10PM - 952/121 kbps

said by Arion :

So whats the big surprise?? Nothing nefarious here. During peak time useage when everyone is on their system the speed go's down. It keeps the system from crashing. Unfortunately were on a shared bandwidth system and unless you have very deep pockets that is the price you pay for having any satellite internet whatsoever.

said by sovtman :

I think it is important to distinguish between the two. Both are real phenomenon. Both vary according to sat/transponder. And nobody actually knows why #2 happens at all. :-)

February 20th, 12:05AM - 742/110 kbps
February 19th, 11:58PM - 74/38 kbps

said by Arion :

The bandwidth limitations certainly isn't affecting every transponder and every gateway. I'm well into prime time at 9pm eastern and just did a speed test and got more than 1000kbps down. And yet some times I have been quite slow during prime time as well.

said by sovtman :

I can't figure out BW allocation either. And your observations as not correlated to speed confirms my confusion. :-)

My point is simple, yes network congestion can cause bw degradation, but it defies simple logic (and common sense) to think that the consistent, dramatic drop in my service at 4PM ET everyday is merely a fact of network congestion. Something in the system (whether intentionally or through a screw-up) is throttling down my bandwidth at the same time everyday. Either HN is anticipating congestion or they messed something up.

said by selling hughes :

I'd guess that the times vary from one transponder to another, but that, as your experience shows, for a given transponder, they happen at the same times in a regular pattern.

said by selling hughes :

Also, for those trying to understand the flow control and bandwidth allocation percentage, I've been monitoring my bandwidth allocation percentage. I've seen it vary from as little as 9% to as much as 60%. In both cases, though, my system was still getting plan maximum speeds (I'm one of the fortunate ones who is not on an overcrowded gateway). So, I'm not really sure what the significance of the bandwidth allocation percentage is.

said by sovtman :

Set my clock by it

February 19th, 04:03PM - 78/65 kbps
February 19th, 03:59PM - 624/65 kbps
 
February 16th, 04:02PM - 77/38 kbps
February 16th, 03:57PM - 728/88 kbps
 
February 15th, 04:01PM - 66/32 kbps
February 15th, 03:59PM - 605/38 kbps

It is interesting that my upload speeds stayed the same today.

said by CarlsDad :

It is not a matter of time, just a simple matter overall usage. One second there may be little traffic, but 2 seconds later more people are getting their email.

February 19th, 04:03PM - 78/65 kbps
February 19th, 03:59PM - 624/65 kbps
 
February 16th, 04:02PM - 77/38 kbps
February 16th, 03:57PM - 728/88 kbps
 
February 15th, 04:01PM - 66/32 kbps
February 15th, 03:59PM - 605/38 kbps

said by CarlsDad :

I am receiving several phone calls a day from HughesNet customers complaining about slow speeds and basic unusable performance. The customers are spread across several satellites and include both 6000 and 7000 users.

Until then I am pulling all plugs on any satellite Internet sales.

When network congestion gets bad enough, you can have speed test jumping from 50 to 900 back to back. It is not a matter of time, just a simple matter overall usage. One second there may be little traffic, but 2 seconds later more people are getting their email.

said by CarlsDad :

I am receiving several phone calls a day from HughesNet customers complaining about slow speeds and basic unusable performance. The customers are spread across several satellites and include both 6000 and 7000 users. They all get good performance early in the morning and very late at night, but during normal peak hours their speeds drop to 100 to 200 and ping times jump to 1500 to 2000 ms. This effectively kills server connections and any thing but basic HTML pages will not load.

I am guessing Hughes has over loaded their NOC capacity and is not going to increase capacity due to the new Spaceway system coming online. Hopefully enough currant users (mostly older 6000 with no contract) will switch to the new system thus relaxing congestion on the currant network.

Until then I am pulling all plugs on any satellite Internet sales.

When network congestion gets bad enough, you can have speed test jumping from 50 to 900 back to back. It is not a matter of time, just a simple matter overall usage. One second there may be little traffic, but 2 seconds later more people are getting their email.

I bet during American Idol tonight, performance will be better than last night, which had little NEW programming. I also wonder how the writers strike might have affected this issue. With virtually no new programming, maybe more people are using the Internet to view alternate formats of TV programming, entertainment or streaming music. Something to think about!

said by how can that be :

I dont understand aron how your speeds are above plan I have never seen speeds above plan and I have the same as you Do you by chance sell Hughes products or have a secret to success you care to share as i also have experianced these speeds at those times sense november

said by Arion :

So whats the big surprise?? Nothing nefarious here. During peak time useage when everyone is on their system the speed go's down. It keeps the system from crashing. Unfortunately were on a shared bandwidth system and unless you have very deep pockets that is the price you pay for having any satellite internet whatsoever.

said by Simon3 :

»www.direcway.com/HUGHES/Doc/0/SI···1206.pdf

Explains what flow control is very breifly though

said by Simon3 :

»www.direcway.com/HUGHES/Doc/0/SI···1206.pdf

Explains what flow control is very breifly though

said by Vtblues :

Plus it seems like a whole bunch of speculations and assumptions are being made about various values in the advanced diagnostics.

said by Arion :

During peak time useage when everyone is on their system the speed go's down. It keeps the system from crashing.

said by Arion :

So whats the big surprise?? Nothing nefarious here. During peak time useage when everyone is on their system the speed go's down. It keeps the system from crashing. Unfortunately were on a shared bandwidth system and unless you have very deep pockets that is the price you pay for having any satellite internet whatsoever.

said by B212 :

Here is your answer: Hughes has flow control, and when it is "on" you will have lower speeds...

FAP in effect NO
Flow control in effect NO

You can check your bandwidth:

BW allocation percentage 9 MARGINAL

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