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Yubin

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Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

OK guys, I've seen posts like these and once people figure out how to fix it, they don't post the settings, so that's what I am doing. I figured out how to get my VOD working with my actiontec bridged. I have not had any problems since.

Here we go, a lot of this will be repetative from other posts, but I want to list all of the steps I took so there is no confusion.

Configuration of your wires and secondary firewall boxes:
This config is based upon using a secondary router.

Coax -> Actiontec -> Actiontec:Ethernet connection1:RJ45 -> 2ND Router Internet Port(WAN Connection)-> 2ND Router:Ethernet port 1:RJ45 -> Actiontec:WAN (Internet)ethernet port.(Sounds redundant but your second router is the new DHCP and the actiontec uses that dhcp to give itself an internal ip and provide internet for your STB's

One computer plugged directly into your actiontect ethernet port 2

Steps:

1) There are two different ways to do this.
a) login to your router user the admin/password1 provided. Select The Advanced icon on the top row.Select restore defaults on the left side. Select yes and apply.After it reboots you should be ready.

b) Press and hold the reset button on the back of your router for 15 seconds. After it reboots you should be ready.

2) connect to your router and put in your new password.

3) click on My Network on the top. Then click on Network connections on the left side.

4) Click on Broadband Connection (Coax) -> Then click on Settings

5) Under DHCP Lease, select RELEASE, Then immediately after select No IP Address under Internet protocol.

6) Select Apply.

7) click on My Network on the top. Then click on Network connections on the left side.

8) Select Home Network -> The select Settings.

9) Under Bridge Section, Check the Broadband Connection(Coax) box and Check the STP Box on the right as well.

10) Uncheck the Coax and Wireless Connections and associated STP boxes.

11) Disable the DHCP Server under IP Distribution.

12) Click Apply and Click Apply again.

13) click on My Network on the top. Then click on Network connections on the left side.

14) Click Add at the bottom right.

15) Select Network Bridge -> Next -> Select Add a New bridge -> Next -> Check Broadband Ethernet and Coax. Uncheck Wireless. -> Click Next.

16) Check Edit the Newly Created Connection and click on Finish

17) Change DNS Server to Obtain DNS Server Address Automatically

18)Under IP Distribution select DHCP Relay

19) click apply

20) click on My Network on the top. Then click on Network connections on the left side.

21) Click on Advanced button at the bottom.

22) Click on the Edit button to the right of Broadband Connection (Ethernet)

23) click on Enable

24) click on apply

25)click on Wireless icon at the top

26)Select Basic Security Settings and turn Wireless OFF.

27) click apply.

28) Click on Firewall Settings -> Click Yes -> Select Minimal Settings -> Click apply -> select yes

29) restart your 2ND router and then restart your STB's and check your VOD's and widgets!

Hope you find this well!!

Yubin

@verizon.net

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

This post is for people with only coax connections to the actiontec!!!

I forgot to mention that!

Yubin

@verizon.net
One more thing... I have the most up to date Firmware a well.
Current Version: 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7
baygins

join:2002-06-18
Arlington, VA

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

With the BB-Eth connection doing DHCP Relay, did you also have your other router distribute IP addresses in the 192.168.1.x domain?

BKJ

@verizon.net

I must be a complete idiot because for the life of me I cant get vod or widgets to work. The only thing that I have succeeded in doing is having my router of choice pull an ip from verizon. I can surf the net and things but everything else fails. Set-top boxes cant get an ip, vod/widgets do not work. I have tried almost every post/solution to this but cant get it to all work together. I am at a lose. I think part of my problem is the bridge setups. I use smoothwall as my fw/router which has two nics one WAN and one private/lan (192.168.1.0) address. I can't change this because I have to many things configured (AD/dns/dhcp/ and a plethra of other things). I would even pay someone to get my vod/widgets working correctly.
baygins

join:2002-06-18
Arlington, VA

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Hey BKJ,
Having similar pains as you are; all IP setups and cabling are according to the guides, STB gets an IP (sometimes 192.168.1.2, sometimes 192.168.100.1) but VoD and Widgets are a no go.
I heard somewhere that the STBs need a 192.168.100.1 address to work properly. I dont know why that would be requirement if all they have to do is to do a DNS query for the head-end servers and then establish a silly IP connection
baygins

join:2002-06-18
Arlington, VA

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wait, this is unbelievable!!! Right after I posted the above, I went back to my STB, saw that it pulled a 192.168.0.124 address (my Linksys WRT54GL is configured for 192.168.0.x address space); and VoD & widgets work.
Interesting eh?

Yubin

@verizon.net

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Glad I could help!

BKJ

@verizon.net
baygins any chance of contacting you directly? I live in the dc area as well.

BKJ

@verizon.net

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

uggg.... lol now i am the only one who cant get this crap right...

Yubin

@verizon.net

BKJ, your fw with two nics should still work. Honestly, I use a server as my fw/router with a bridged router on the back side of it. It is essentially the same as what you have. Just plug the ethernet cable from your actiontec into your WAN nic of your fw, then do the opposite, ethernet cable from your fw to the actiontec wan port.

You can also try changing your home/network DHCP server in the actiontec to a DHCP relay so that it does not conflict with your smoothwall.

Do you have a yahoo messenger account? I can talk to you on there and help you out.

BKJ

@verizon.net

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

no i dont have yahoo messanger but i can/do have voip or cell number that i can give to you. If you prefer anoher way that would be great as well the problem with yahoo messanger is that when i plug my smoothwall lan into actiontec wan i can no longer get out on the inet.
yubin

join:2008-02-17

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

ok send me your cell in an IM here and I'll call you.

BKJ

@verizon.net

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

did you get it?

Yubin

@verizon.net

OK Here is a quick explanation for the DHCP Relay.

The Relay expands your personal FW/Router's DHCP range to the STB's. Basically the relay sends the requests for IP's from the STB's to your personal router and then assigns the ips from the router to the STB's. This way all of them will be on the same network range. It's easier than setting them up on a separate network. I've tried separating them, but the widgets and VOD stop working, so it's pointless.
Hooper
Premium
join:2001-10-22
Villanova, PA

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

What happens if you reboot the router? Does the Actiontec Ethernet connection become disabled still?
yubin

join:2008-02-17

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

are you referring to rebooting the actiontec? or your personal router? If you mean the actiontec, then yes, mine disables the BB eth everytime, but it still pulls an IP for some reason. If that happens to you, jsut enable the BB Eth again and then reboot your personal router. It all picks back up.
Hooper
Premium
join:2001-10-22
Villanova, PA

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

said by yubin See Profile :

are you referring to rebooting the actiontec? or your personal router? If you mean the actiontec, then yes, mine disables the BB eth everytime, but it still pulls an IP for some reason. If that happens to you, jsut enable the BB Eth again and then reboot your personal router. It all picks back up.

That's the rub... I am not always at home when the power goes out. I have been running a config like this one for over a year and sometimes the Actiontec just craps out on its own and reboots itself as well. It is so sad that we have to go through all this nonsense to use our own equipment.

BKJ

@verizon.net

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

hooper, my exact sentiments... i am so close to going back to my cable modem! arggggg....

BKJ

@verizon.net
ugg.. did you get the pm yubin?

BKJ

@verizon.net
ok i sent you a pm on yahoo.

BKJ

@verizon.net
ok have a yahoo account. how can i get you my screen name w/o posting to the world. Yes, i know what dhcp relay is and how it works (thanks).

BKJ

@verizon.net
ok i created an yahoo account: builtbygeek
yubin

join:2008-02-17

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

I added you.
BKJ

join:2006-02-27
Woodbridge, VA

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

ugg.. FINALLY with the help of yubin I was able to get things working. My issue was that new bridge being created (in step 14/15) failed to add/pickup a lan ip. So if things are not working check that the new bridge is picking up an ip.
baygins

join:2002-06-18
Arlington, VA

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

yubin,
It's an interesting setup with the DHCP Relay. I am wondering if this is bypassing the AT QoS settings that it automatically assigns to the STBs in the 192.168.1.x range (.100 usually).
Any thoughts on that?
Hooper
Premium
join:2001-10-22
Villanova, PA

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

said by baygins See Profile :

yubin,
It's an interesting setup with the DHCP Relay. I am wondering if this is bypassing the AT QoS settings that it automatically assigns to the STBs in the 192.168.1.x range (.100 usually).
Any thoughts on that?
QoS is out the window with this setup. HOWEVER, this config only impacts QoS on your local LAN. WAN QoS is handled by Verizon to support multiple HD streams by dynamically adjusting throughput/caps on your line. The biggest problem you may face with this setup is that your 3rd party router might not have the WAN throughput to support the amount of traffic that can be generated.
portwashguy

join:2008-02-08
Port Washington, NY

This question probably shows my lack of detailed knowledge but:

What is the advantage of the setup you are describing compared to simply running a second router off the actiontec router by plugging the 2nd router with a cat5 cable into one of the actiontac's lan ports?

(I needed a router with better range, so I am using this config with a "N" router as the wnd router.)
baygins

join:2002-06-18
Arlington, VA

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

To take advantage of the advanced routing, QoS and wireless capabilities of your "_insert_3rd_party_router_name_" box rather than being restricted to the capabilities offered by AT (e.g., extremely limited NAT table).

cookymonsta

@verizon.net
Can one of you help me out, i have been trying this for weeks. tried the step by step here, i can get everything to work but the VOD. Anyone on yahoo?
Hooper
Premium
join:2001-10-22
Villanova, PA

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

said by cookymonsta See Profile :

Can one of you help me out, i have been trying this for weeks. tried the step by step here, i can get everything to work but the VOD. Anyone on yahoo?
Are you getting guide data? Have you unplugged all your set top boxes?
cookymonsta

join:2008-02-18

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

said by Hooper See Profile :

said by cookymonsta See Profile :

Can one of you help me out, i have been trying this for weeks. tried the step by step here, i can get everything to work but the VOD. Anyone on yahoo?
Are you getting guide data? Have you unplugged all your set top boxes?
the box is not getting an ip. yeah i unplugged it, plugged it back in. if i enable dhcp on the ethernet interface on the fios router the box will pull a 192.168.3.100 address, but that wont work ether.

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SnipingWaste

join:2008-02-20
Garland, TX
I can get VOD to work now but play back is very chopping. Any way to fix that?
SnipingWaste

join:2008-02-20
Garland, TX
Sorry I should post the router I'm using too. Its a Linksys SRX 200 also known at WRT54 GX2. Every thing works with the linksys doing all the routing but the VOD is very choppy with artifacts in the video and the sound cutting in and out.
yubin

join:2008-02-17

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sniping, I had that problem at first, but it all works smooth now. It could just be your router, but I don't think so.

Mine was choppy for about a day, after that it was fine

More Fiber
Premium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
Did you try setting QOS for the VOD?
QOS in on for VOD by default in the Actiontec.

Raere

@verizon.net
You are a god among men Yubin. I've been waiting for an easy guide, and yours worked. Many, many thanks.
yubin

join:2008-02-17

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Raere, thanks for the kudos, but I did this for the many people out there who are as frustrated as I was with all of the other How-Tos. I hope everyone else finds this an easy guide as well.

-Yubin

More Fiber
Premium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Why don't you submit your instructions to the FIOS FAQ:

»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ

rtcy_at_work

@level3.net

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

can this be made to work for those of us that have ethernet turned on ?

I will attempt it, but I might as well ask. I tried all of yesterday and failed. will try to apply these steps to my set up and see where it gets me.

any help from those that have done it is welcomed
yubin

join:2008-02-17


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Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Rtcy_at_work, if you have ethernet ran to your actiontec, just plug it into your own router instead of the actiontec. Leave the cable connected to the actiontec for the VOD. That's it.

JaySco The actiontec will get the internet from the Ethernet Wan port, which is plugged into the router of your choice. Your router receives an external IP fromVerizon through the bridge we created on the actiontec.

I made this pic to show you how it works




I hope this helps everyone get an idea of how it's setup.

-Yubin

[Mod note: Edited to fix the margins. sash]

rtcy
FACTS only please
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said by yubin See Profile :

Rtcy_at_work, if you have ethernet ran to your actiontec, just plug it into your own router instead of the actiontec. Leave the cable connected to the actiontec for the VOD. That's it.
I hope this helps everyone get an idea of how it's setup.

-Yubin
Yubin thank you for your advice, I had gotten this advice from some of the older FIOS users a while back and forgotten all about it and now that I just got FIOs TV it's time to do it. I decided that it's easier NOT to fight Verizon, and just put a new Dlink DIR-655 as the EDGE router and hung the Actiontec on the back as you and others have said when a user has the ETHERNET port turned ON by Verizon like I have.

I left the Actiontec on it's default x.x.1.1 and put the DIR-655 on x.x.0.1

Since the DIR-655 has GIG ports and all my house switches are on GIG speed too, it all works much better

JaySco

@verizon.net
Sorry if this a stupid question. Looking at the configuration, where does the Bridge get connected to the Internet? If both WAN ports are taken up by the Bridge? Or am I look at this wrong?
elongatedm

join:2008-01-31
Palm Harbor, FL

I need some help. So I start fresh after a ip lease break and follow the directions at the beginning of this thread. I follow everything to a tee. I have no problem getting to the internet. The issue is the guide itself. It is up and running and functional but for some reason if I try to access the widgets, it gives me an error that it cannot connect to the server. Worse yet if I have power cycle the stb's that is the end of the guides. Has anybody run into this?

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Saikik

@verizon.net

I'm not sure what suggestions have been included but you really don't need to go through all these steps.

All I did on my home network is as follows and I get VOD on all my STBs in my house.

INTERNET NETGEAR
The Netgear is connected to the internet hrough the WAN port.

NETGEAR ACTIONTEC
Ethernet#1 is connected to the Ethernet#1 on the Vz ActionTec box.

ACTIONTEC COAX
The Coax is connected to the Actiontec.

How this works is simple.

First I unhooked everything. Then I plugged in the Actiontec router and connected a PC to it. On the Actiontec I disabled DHCP and changed the routers internal IP address to 192.168.1.254

I then wired the routers together as described above. Again these routers are connected to each other through their respective ethernet ports. They are not connected to each other using the WAN ports as that would create a subnet which I've done but seems overly unnecessary in this case.

Finally I connected the Ethernet coming from the ONT directly into the NETGEAR's WAN port.

Why this works: With nothing connected to the WAN port and with DHCP turned off on the Actiontec it's no longer a router but a HUB. Traffic simply flows from one box to the other.

The NETGEAR's IP is 192.168.1.1 it has DHCP on. The STB's when they connect seek and IP address. They send out the request which travels through the Actiontec to the NETGEAR. They get their IPs and DNS information from the NETGEAR. The Actiontec at this point is just simply a network bridge/hub. The bridged options were installed by default from Vz.
elongatedm

join:2008-01-31
Palm Harbor, FL

Yubin,

Not sure if you have any more suggestions because I cannot get this to work for the life of me. I get the internet and I get the guide great but the VOD still a no go. I checked the bridge setup on step 15 of the guide and as you stated it only had the one IP address of 192.168.2.1. I went ahead and removed the bridge and recreated it several times and still nothing. I did notice that when I removed the bridge all the STB's showed up in the network status page. Once I recreate the bridge they go away. At this point the only thing I can think about is the 2nd router being the problem. Thanks for your help.
JPac
Premium
join:2002-09-08
Norwalk, CA

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Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Try 192.168.0.1 for your 3rd_party_router address and double check your wires.

Your guide worked Yubin, Thanks for taking the time to write it.
phr0ze

join:2002-12-06
Columbia, MD

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Ok. I ended up making the home network bridge 192.168.0.1 like in the pictures above. Then I set the 3rd party router back to a .1 address. This cleared things up.

If anyone still has trouble try to put a static IP in bridge 2. This might be a good idea anyways.
elongatedm

join:2008-01-31
Palm Harbor, FL

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Phroze that was what I needed to get this to work. Finally. BKJ thanks for the pics that also helped to understand what I needed to look for. Thanks for everyones input.
phr0ze

join:2002-12-06
Columbia, MD

Yubin,

I am trying and trying. My STB has an IP. I see the STB in the DHCP client table on my DD-WRT. No guide, widget, etc.

Let me know what you did. My actiontec still has 192.168.1.1 reserved so my dd-wrt is 192.168.1.23, did you do something similar?

On the actiontec the set-tops appear as ethernets not coax, is that how yours is?

Can you supply some valid screen shots from the actiontec?

And here is the real stupid question, how do I know if I have revision D? I have a big black actiontec box.

Thanks,
John
eco
Premium
join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!! I've been trying for almost two months to get my guide and VOD to work and this made it happen! I can FINALLY take full advantage of my FiOS TV and internet!
smomer

join:2008-01-04
Ellicott City, MD

Hi,
Ok I've been trying to get this right, but so far I can NEVER get the VOD, Guides, & widgets to work. (I have coax coming in from ONT.) I don't really know what I am doing wrong. I would like to know if I can set everything up offline, then simply plugin the actiontec into place, or if I have to make the modifications - step by step, - live. Does anybody have an answer to this.
BKJ

join:2006-02-27
Woodbridge, VA

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

smomer: please make sure you have the following:

1. Make sure your actiontect is using the 192.168.0.1 ip (dont know why but anything different does not seem to work - at least in my efforts).

2. Make sure your broadband connection bridge has two ip's listed (see my pics on page 4 of this thread). If it does not delete the bridge and recreate it. It should contain a 192.168.2.1 ip and the other one should be an ip in your LAN
given out by your dhcp server.

Hops this helps.

vrocco

@verizon.net

Hey guys.

I just can't seem to make this work. I do the first step and release th ip and disable dhcp on the broadband(coax), but it seems like everytime the router reboots(to apply settings and such) when it comes back up, the dhcp is enabled and it grabs a new address.

What am I doing wrong? I would really like to get this working. Bricked 3 Rev.C routers using the old VLAN instructions and I still don't know what was wrong. Now they sent me a Rev.D.

Thanks in advance!
yubin

join:2008-02-17

If you have or Want CAT-5 directly to your ONT..

Call Verizon. I will not change any settings on my ONT as it voids any help from Verizon if you mess it up from what I understand.I also will not help anyone change the settings within your ONT because I have no clue what it looks like on the inside. If you only have Coax and you want to use your own router, please follow my how-to post. If you have Cat-5, then release your ip and plug the Cat-5 into your own personal router.

I am no way a Verizon guru, I am just a normal person that wanted to have my setup how I like it. I'm glad to help anyone who has questions related to the how-to.

Thanks for all of the kudos from everyone who has used this guide. I apreciate all of the support.

-Yubin
smomer

join:2008-01-04
Ellicott City, MD

OK, Here I go. I hope the smart guys are still around, because I have a baffling problem that I hope you guys can help me with. I followed the OP and all the revisions along the way ( thanks to all that contributed ) and it worked great. I get VOD , guides ,and widgets. I have 2 actiontec MI424wr ver. A and 1 ver. C routers. All are bridged, almost plug n' play. If one goes bad all I have to do is release ip and replace bad router with another, and clone MAC to my linksys piggybacked router. I have a linksys wrt350n router and a wpc300n pcmcia wireless for my laptop. The problem is I can access my local network , wired PC, I can even print to a printer hooked to the wired PC. I can ping url's , but I CAN'T get to the internet! When I do an IPCONFIG /ALL on the laptop all looks good. Release IP, then renew IP, and ping url's all looks good! I borrowed a NIM 100 from a friend of mine to see if the problem is the laptop, the router , or for what ever reason, the bridging of the actiontec. As it turns out, I can get to the internet wirelessly with the actiontec reverted back to original for (VOD,guides ,etc. - sake )firmware ver.4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7 with wireless turned off, and nim 100 in place. But I don't know why the setup worked great, except for the wireless internet connection. The firmware version was @ 4.0.16.1.55.0.10.4.3 with auto updates blocked ( port 4567 ) when bridged.( As soon as I reset the actiontec, the router was updated with the latest update ver. 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7 ) Can anybody help solve this?
yubin

join:2008-02-17

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

smomer. there is no need to clone any MAC addresses. Everything is done via IP addresses.

Fibertmarten

@verizon.com
How do you enable the actiontec to fwd through the external ip
?

anon2112

@cavtel.net

So... I had everything working back in February when I first set up FIOS. I had configured the AT based on instructions available at that time using a VLAN bridged to my own firewall (IPCop), and it worked well until someone in my house turned off the ONT and somehow, I lost the config.

I spent hours yesterday just trying to pass an IP from Verizon to my IPCop machine to no avail. Several hard resets of the AT and reboots of IPCop and still no IP I don't know whether the firmware in the AT changed or what the deal is, because I don't recall it being this difficult. I'm going to try the "turn off the AT for 2 hours" approach that someone mentioned. Maybe then I can get an IP? We'll see.

I notice these instructions use the WAN port on the AT rather than setting up a VLAN on one of the LAN ports, so I wonder.. which is a better approach?

Finally, is there a way to get back into the AT once this setup is done? The first thing I'm doing if I ever get this working again is backing up the config.
JohnAD

join:2005-07-09
Vienna, VA

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

said by anon2112 :

So... I had everything working back in February when I first set up FIOS. I had configured the AT based on instructions available at that time using a VLAN bridged to my own firewall (IPCop), and it worked well until someone in my house turned off the ONT and somehow, I lost the config.

I spent hours yesterday just trying to pass an IP from Verizon to my IPCop machine to no avail. Several hard resets of the AT and reboots of IPCop and still no IP I don't know whether the firmware in the AT changed or what the deal is, because I don't recall it being this difficult. I'm going to try the "turn off the AT for 2 hours" approach that someone mentioned. Maybe then I can get an IP? We'll see.

I notice these instructions use the WAN port on the AT rather than setting up a VLAN on one of the LAN ports, so I wonder.. which is a better approach?

Finally, is there a way to get back into the AT once this setup is done? The first thing I'm doing if I ever get this working again is backing up the config.
I too tried this setup and could not get an IP to come to my 3rd party router. All of the other settings jive with the OP. I get the .2.1 ip and a local IP based on the 3rd party router (192.168.0.209). But no matter how many times I try to pull the IP it does not come. Am I missing something. I'm using a Buffalo Router with dd-wrt

anon2112

@verizon.net

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

said by JohnAD See Profile :

I too tried this setup and could not get an IP to come to my 3rd party router. All of the other settings jive with the OP. I get the .2.1 ip and a local IP based on the 3rd party router (192.168.0.209). But no matter how many times I try to pull the IP it does not come. Am I missing something. I'm using a Buffalo Router with dd-wrt
I feel your pain, JohnAD. I finally got my IPCop box to pull an IP from Verizon. I just walked away for a while and when I came back to try again.. voila, it worked. I used the same instructions, so I don't know.

This is really frustrating for DIYers and tweakers who like to use their own equiment and don't like to be shackled to the Actiontec. It's the one big "gotcha" with Verizon, even though I do think overall FIOS is better service than Comcast ever was for me (I used Comcast for years). I use my own router/firewall that I have customized for some time now and it includes a VPN & the ability to send magic packets to wake up machines on my LAN, to name a few things. I think there are a lot of others out there like me who have their reasons for not using the Actiontec, and I wish Verizon would realize this. And the whole thing about connecting through ethernet for VOD just seems like weird engineering on Verizon's part, IMO, but I'm no expert. 'Sorry for the vent..

Anyway, I found that I was able to get an IP, but every now and then I would lose my connection to both the internet and my IPCop router. I finally found that the culprit was the VOD connection to the WAN port of the AT. I noticed in my IPCop log that there were a bunch of DHCP connections by the AT to IPCop. This had the effect of killing my connection to IPCop from my LAN. Once I pulled the cable, all was well, but of course I lost VOD to my STB's. So, the bottom line is that I don't think this bridging setup works for everyone..

I'm going to try to set up a bridge with a VLAN to ethernet port 1, since that had worked for me before. And if I can't figure it out, my last resort is enabling ethernet on the ONT.. but I have to run cable to my garage to do that.
JohnAD

join:2005-07-09
Vienna, VA

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

said by anon2112 :

said by JohnAD See Profile :

I too tried this setup and could not get an IP to come to my 3rd party router. All of the other settings jive with the OP. I get the .2.1 ip and a local IP based on the 3rd party router (192.168.0.209). But no matter how many times I try to pull the IP it does not come. Am I missing something. I'm using a Buffalo Router with dd-wrt
I feel your pain, JohnAD. I finally got my IPCop box to pull an IP from Verizon. I just walked away for a while and when I came back to try again.. voila, it worked. I used the same instructions, so I don't know.

This is really frustrating for DIYers and tweakers who like to use their own equiment and don't like to be shackled to the Actiontec. It's the one big "gotcha" with Verizon, even though I do think overall FIOS is better service than Comcast ever was for me (I used Comcast for years). I use my own router/firewall that I have customized for some time now and it includes a VPN & the ability to send magic packets to wake up machines on my LAN, to name a few things. I think there are a lot of others out there like me who have their reasons for not using the Actiontec, and I wish Verizon would realize this. And the whole thing about connecting through ethernet for VOD just seems like weird engineering on Verizon's part, IMO, but I'm no expert. 'Sorry for the vent..

Anyway, I found that I was able to get an IP, but every now and then I would lose my connection to both the internet and my IPCop router. I finally found that the culprit was the VOD connection to the WAN port of the AT. I noticed in my IPCop log that there were a bunch of DHCP connections by the AT to IPCop. This had the effect of killing my connection to IPCop from my LAN. Once I pulled the cable, all was well, but of course I lost VOD to my STB's. So, the bottom line is that I don't think this bridging setup works for everyone..

I'm going to try to set up a bridge with a VLAN to ethernet port 1, since that had worked for me before. And if I can't figure it out, my last resort is enabling ethernet on the ONT.. but I have to run cable to my garage to do that.
I did notice that when I reconnect my AT it takes a while to pull an IP again. Maybe I should just leave my router sitting and hope it will automatically pull one through.

I don't need to do any MAC cloning with this setup do I? I'm getting confused between the 3 or 4 different set ups on this board.

birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
·Verizon FIOS

said by anon2112 :

Finally, is there a way to get back into the AT once this setup is done? The first thing I'm doing if I ever get this working again is backing up the config.
if you bridge the Actiontec, you have to disable DHCP. Whatever you connect to the Actiontec needs a fixed IP on the Actiontec's subnet. Then you'll get the connection for administering it.

anon2112

@verizon.net

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

said by birdfeedr See Profile :

if you bridge the Actiontec, you have to disable DHCP. Whatever you connect to the Actiontec needs a fixed IP on the Actiontec's subnet. Then you'll get the connection for administering it.
Thanx, birdfeedr. That makes sense. I'll give it a try.
AgentCooper

join:2008-05-02
Schwenksville, PA

I don't know if this thread is still alive, but I just wanted to say I have this working.. sort of. I can get an IP from Verizon to my personal router, and I had VOD working, but the next day I lost connection to the internet from any machine on my LAN. Actually, I could not even access my router's admin page. After doing DHCP release/renew, the internet came back. But the bottom line is that the cable to the AT supplying the VOD feed is the culprit, because when I pull it, I have no problems, but when it's plugged in, I lose connection to the internet intermittently. VOD works intermittently as well.

My personal router's subnet is 192.168.2.0. Is this causing any conflicts? I'm getting confused by so many subnets between the AT and my own router. I may try changing my router's subnet and/or setting a static IP for the VOD devices, as someone suggested.

Thanx

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