Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D in Verizon Fiber Optics

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:03:11 EDT

spankynuts : I cannot get this to work for the life of me. I have followed the steps exactly each time. I'm trying to use my D-Link DIR-655 router. I can get the wireless computers to work using the newly bridged d-link, but I can't get the main computer on the internet nor can I access the actiontec. Is there some step missing where I have to change the ip addresses of the routers? A couple of failed attempts I had to call FSC to break the lease. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I am running Windows 7 x64.
My actiontec (REV A) is connected to the ONT via COAX.
I want to use my D-Link DIR-655 router.

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I fixed the problem, I just had to reset the network adapte in Windows 7. VOD, widgets, and data all work. Thanks!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:40:14 EDT

cjohnson : from page one here.....
>>>15) Select Network Bridge -> Next -> Select Add a New >>>bridge -> Next -> Check Broadband Ethernet and Coax. >>>Uncheck Wireless. -> Click Next.

>>>16) Check Edit the Newly Created Connection and click on >>>Finish

>>>17) Change DNS Server to Obtain DNS Server Address >>>Automatically

>>>18)Under IP Distribution select DHCP Relay

i thought it was a rather odd OUI as well. that's partially why i had trouble figuring out where/what it was. it's actually the "virtual MAC" the AT assigns to the bridge created in the steps above.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:59:35 EDT

More Fiber :

said by cjohnson :

i have found where the DHCP requests are coming from. they're coming from the AT. why would the AT be making DHCP requests?

I'm assuming that eth1 is your WAN interface. If that is the case, the only reason the Actiontec would be making DHCP requests would be if the DHCP client is enabled on WAN bridge
(this is the Network H/O bridge with the broadband coax under it).

Go to My Network
Select Network Connections
Select Network H/O
Select Settings
Across from INTERNET PROTOCOL, you should have NO IP ADDRESS.

If it says Obtain Address Automatically, the Actiontec will attempt to request a DHCP address from whatever server is listening. This could be your router, or it could be VZ's DHCP server, which means if the Actiontec gets a response from VZ's server, your router won't be able to pull a DHCP address.

BTW, I'm not sure is you obfuscated the MAC address. If not, that's a weird MAC address. Most Actiontec ethernet MAC addresses start with 00:18:01.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:34:05 EDT

cjohnson : i have found where the dhcp requests are coming from. they're coming from the AT. why would the AT be making DHCP requests?

from my routers syslog......
router1 dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 04:22:b6:74:18:fd via eth1
router1 dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.1.1 to 04:22:b6:74:18:fd via eth1
router1 dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.2) from via eth1
router1 dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.1.1 to 04:22:b6:74:18:fd via eth1
router1 dhcpd: DHCPDECLINE of 192.168.1.1 from 04:22:b6:74:18:fd via eth1: not found

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:51:36 EDT

More Fiber :

said by cjohnson :

would it save me some hair pulling if i were to request that VZ re-provision the ONT to ethernet?

Absolutely.
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Replacing the Actiontec (part 1): Coax to Ethernet

said by cjohnson :

this way i could just plug the WAN interface of my router into the ONT, then the WAN on the AT into the local side of my router right?

Yes. Trade-offs option 6.

said by cjohnson :

or i could delete the AT and replace it with a NIM?

Yes. Trade-offs option 8.

said by cjohnson :

or i could just just config the AT to function as a NIM??

Yes. Trade-offs option 7.

said by cjohnson :

I'm really confused/unsure of how this all works

»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What are the tradeoffs between the various router configurations

said by cjohnson :

i haven't yet laid eyes on the ONT yet but my roommate is telling me that we have a newer alcatel ONT that doesn't have an ethernet port??

All ONTs have an ethernet jack.

said by cjohnson :

he also said that he was told that the ethernet port can only be enabled for business customers??

Probably just an installer that did not want to be bothered to install cat5 in addition to the coax. Coax is VZ's preferred installation.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:36:16 EDT

cjohnson : >>>Do you mean you select a program and then get a timeout >>>message connecting to the video source?

yes.

>>>Do you have a device that is not getting a DHCP address from >>>your router and is continually retrying? This could be a STB.

no; only one settop is connected and upstream status shows an ip from my routers pool.

>>>Be aware that you can not use the switch ports on the >>>Actiontec (except for the connection to your routers WAN port).

correct; i have not.

>>>What router are you using?

MI424WR rev. d. unless you are asking about MY router. in that case it's a custom built linux iptables box.

*****edit*****
i was just thinking.... would it save me some hair pulling if i were to request that VZ re-provision the ONT to ethernet? this way i could just plug the WAN interface of my router into the ONT, then the WAN on the AT into the local side of my router right? or i could delete the AT and replace it with a NIM? or i could just just config the AT to function as a NIM?? i'm really confused/unsure of how this all works, and/or the best way to do it cleanly. i've read lots of posts on here as well as the FAQ's and i'm still scratching my head a bit.

on another related note... i haven't yet laid eyes on the ONT yet but my roomate is telling me that we have a newer alcatel ONT that doesn't have an ethernet port?? then again he also said that he was told that the ethernet port can only be enabled for business customers??

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:33:59 EDT

More Fiber : 1) Not sure what you mean by "VOD timeouts". Do you mean you select a program and then get a timeout message connecting to the video source?

2) Bootp and DHCP are both the both use UDP 67. Do you have a device that is not getting a DHCP address from your router and is continually retrying? This could be a STB.

In this configuration, the Actiontec is acting as two distinct bridges (MOCA WAN to ethernet WAN) and (ethernet LAN to MOCA LAN). It should not be making any DHCP requests. It should only be passing existing WAN or LAN traffic over the appropriate bridge.

Be aware that you can not use the switch ports on the Actiontec (except for the connection to your routers WAN port).

What router are you using?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:13:16 EDT

cjohnson : i have just recently successfully implemented this procedure with my rev. D AT. i still have two issues that persist though; keep in mind that i have a MoCA only configuration.

1. i'm getting vod timeouts (settop is getting an IP from my router and not from the AT)

2. the AT is hammering my router with bootp (udp 67) requests (approx 1-2 a second).

can anyone shed some light on this maybe?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:33:35 EDT

More Fiber : Works with all revisions (A-E) of the Actiontec.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:30:09 EDT

spankynuts : Hello, does this only work with REV D? I have REV A that I want to replace with a D-Link DIR-655.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:05:37 EDT

dimm0k : Everything is working! Just wanted to thank the OP for posting this solution in a neat and concise guide! Couldn't have done it so easily without this!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:25:20 EDT

s2nd2none : Sorry about that, yes we also have the TV service, so VOD and widgets need to work...

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:52:13 EDT

anon : For whatever reason, both links are active on my system. That is the way the technician installed and configured it. He ran both cables and verified that they were working
The lights on the ONT, the lights on the router and the network display all show both ethernet and coax as active.
I'm sure there is a way to do it without losing any function, but it looks like it will be more trouble than it is worth for me.
Thanks for trying to help.
Bilbo

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:36:16 EDT

More Fiber :

said by Bilbo :

Apparently they are not always mutually exclusive.

Yes, they are mutually exclusive.

Your WAN connection is cat5 (ethernet) and the MOCA WAN connection is not active.
If you go to My Network; Network Connections, you will see that Broadband (coax) is down.

IP-STB1 and IP-STB2 are on the MOCA LAN, which as I stated before is separate.
The MOCA WAN and MOCA LAN share the coax, but operate on different channels (frequencies).

If you want to run a Wireless Access Point (WAP) for better wireless coverage, it is a simple matter to connect it behind your Actiontec without needing to bridge anything, or affecting VOD and guide data.
Use the instructions here:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Can I use my wireless or an extra router along with the Verizon provided router?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:12:46 EDT

anon : Apparently they are not always mutually exclusive.
The main router panel shows "Broadband Connection" and
"Ethernet Status: Connected', in the left column, but the center one shows 'PC Name' Connection Type: Ethernet, and 'IP-STB1' and IP-STB2" connection type Coax.
When the router went out a couple of years back, I just plugged the CAT5 from the wall directly into the PC and everything still worked, other than no program guide on the TVs.
The issue with wireless was I couldn't get my wife's PC to connect, so I just ran a cable into the next room. My granddaughter's laptop wouldn't connect either when I had security (WEP/WPA/MAC verification) turned on, but when I turned everything off, it worked fine. My best option may be to get a longer CAT5 and just turn off the wireless.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:35:57 EDT

More Fiber : There are 2 WAN interfaces on the Actiontec (excluding PPPoE):
•MOCA WAN
•Ethernet WAN

And 3 LAN interfaces:
•MOCA LAN
•Ethernet LAN
•Wireless

MOCA WAN and ethernet WAN are mutually exclusive.
When you login to the router, the main status page will show either "Broadband (ethernet)" or "Broadband (coax)" in the left column.
That is your WAN connection type.

The three LAN interfaces are bridged together.
MOCA LAN is used to communicate with the STBs and is separate from MOCA WAN.

If you simply want to add your own router as a wireless Access Point (WAP), use this FAQ:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Can I use my wireless or an extra router along with the Verizon provided router?

If you want to use your router as primary, then follow the links I posted above.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:21:28 EDT

anon : Both connections are active.
CAT5 carries internet.
Coax carries TV.
Lights on the ONT show activity on both connections and the router shows both ethernet and coax lights. Also logging on to the router shows both links active, a local PC on ethernet and two STBs on coax.
Apparantly, most new installations use only coax, but it seems to depend on how the ONT is configured. I watched the technician pull both cables through the attic, and there are two cables coming out of the ONT as well as two cables from the wall to the router.
Everything is working so this may be more trouble than it is worth since I don't use the wireless that much anyway.
Bilbo

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:01:15 EDT

More Fiber :

said by Bilbo :

Is it possible to make the Actiontec a bridge and still keep the Guide and other TV features?

Not clear from you post, which WAN connection is active.
Only one WAN connection type can be active. A cat5 WAN connection still requires a coax connection to your main splitter to provide MOCA LAN connectivity for your STBs.

From the following FAQ:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Replacing the Actiontec (part 1): Coax to Ethernet

quote:
Look at the indicator lights on the front panel. Coax WAN or Ethernet WAN will be lit. That's your data source.

Or you can log in to the Actiontec, click on My Network icon, click on Connections menu item, then see what Broadband Connection is connected. If your connection is PPPoE, then "WAN PPPOE" is through ethernet, and "WAN PPPOE2" is through coax.

If you are on cat5, then you are in good shape. Proceed with this FAQ:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Replacing the Actiontec (part 3): WAN-to-LAN keeps Guide and VOD (easier)

If coax WAN is active, start with this FAQ:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Replacing the Actiontec (part 1): Coax to Ethernet

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:35:39 EDT

anon : I have been looking into adding my own router and making the Actiontec a bridge to see if that will correct some wireless issues, but the directions I have seen so far are for either CAT5 or Coax.
My installation has both CAT5 and Coax from the ONT to the router. The router is then connected by CAT5 to the network card in the PC, and the coax is split with links to two set top boxes.
Is it possible to make the Actiontec a bridge and still keep the Guide and other TV features?
Bilbo

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:01:18 EDT

that_fox : Ok, that sounds like it might be the problem. Under System Information it says "Release: 1.7" although under that it says
Guide Data Days Available: 0
IP Address: 0.0.0.0
Network Status: Offline

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:26:26 EDT

More Fiber : I'm certainly not an expert on an Airport Express, but from what i can see from the Apple web site, the Airport Express is a Wireless Access Point (WAP) and is not a router.

These bridging instructions are designed to work with a user router (with separate WAN and LAN ports). What you did is the same as connecting a cat5 cable from an Actiontec LAN port to the Actiontec ethernet WAN port. Yes, it works but is unnecessary, since the Actiontec LAN is normally bridged to the MOCA LAN internally and probably does not accomplish what you want because the AE is not a router. Connecting the Airport Express to the switch is the same as connecting it directly to the Actiontec.

As for the guide data, since you're in CA you have probably received the 1.7 IMG update. See this thread for issues with guide data and the 1.7 IMG:
»problem with guide data on SD boxes since 1.7 IMG upgrade

BTW, there are no appreciable differences in functionality between the Actiontec Rev. C and Rev. D. The Rev. D does have a better wireless card, however.

If all you wanted to do was use the AE as a WAP:

and be done with it.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:47:40 EDT

that_fox : Due to hardware difficulties Verizon recently replaced my Actiontec Rev C router with the Rev D. I had been using the Apple Airport Express with the Rev C and it was working perfectly. I followed the directions in the OP to get it to act as a bridge, although the hardware setup is a bit different.

The Airport Express only has one ethernet jack, so I am using a 5 port ethernet switch to take the place of it. I have ethernet port 2 of the Actiontec going to port 2 of the switch, The WAN Ethernet on the Actiontec to port 1 of the switch and port 3 of the switch going to the Airport Express. This works perfectly for the internet for all of my Macs, although it does not work for the Verizon TV.

Currently with this setup I am getting "No Program Name" under guide for ever channel. "No Program Information" for the description and all TV recording has ceased to work. This was not happening while using the Rev C Actiontec, so it has to be a problem with the setup of the new router. Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:32:41 EDT

Smith6612 : Kind of depends. Basically, the easiest way to get yourself into the Linksys after a factory reset is to plug your PC into the Linksys, leaving the Linksys unplugged from the ActionTec/etc to rule out any other "web servers" on other devices, and then log into the Linksys. That should get you in. If1 192.168.1.1 doesn't work for the Linksys when the Linksys isn't hooked up to the ActionTec, open up command prompt and type in ipconfig and enter in the address given in "Default Gateway" into your browser.
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Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:11:55 EDT

anon : Thanks Smith...the issue here is that when I go to 192.168.1.1, it reads the Actiontec router and not Linksys. That's why I'm getting stuck and unsure how to avoid that. I tried turning off AT wirelss but site still wants to read that router....is it it that because the router is attached to the AC, it looks to me like the site is reading the AT but it is really reading the Linksys?....

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 10 Oct 2009 03:10:19 EDT

More Fiber :

said by nmchugh6 :

Fios tv, internet and phone installed last week. Going out of my mind with wireless. I sit within 4 feet and I can't go wireless.

Will instructions on page 2 here from CookieMonsta work with the WRT54G? Any update to those instructions?

If all you need is to use the Linksys as a WAP, follow the instructions in this FAQ:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Can I use my wireless or an extra router along with the Verizon provided router?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:05:15 EDT

Smith6612 : Just to point it out, you can set up the Linksys via your web browser. After you reset it to factory defaults, you can visit »192.168.1.1 with the password of admin to set up everything you want in the Linksys. No need to run the CD :)
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Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:44:23 EDT

anon : Fios tv, internet and phone installed last week. Going out of my mind with wireless. I sit within 4 feet and I can't go wireless. Many calls to Verizon and I have to give up on any hope they'll be of any help.

Router is Actiontec MI424WR REV E with Coax MoCoa (not ethernet). I want to use Linksys wrt54g for pc wireless instead and keep Actiontech functional for TV. Lots of entries in this thread so I'm appealing for help to get a quick summary of what I should do. Will instructions on page 2 here from CookieMonsta work with the WRT54G? Any update to those instructions?

The related issue I have is that I've forgotten the Linksys pw so I've tried going back in to re-install that (tried late last night with limited success so must try again). I think what I need to do is go wired Actiontech to pc, wire Actiontec Lan to Linksys Internet; wire Linksys port (anyone between 1-4) to Actiontech Lan 1-4 so that Linksys is connected to internet...correct? Then disable the Network Connection so that the 192.168.1.1 site is ready to provide readings Based on the Linksys vs Actiontech? Install Linksys via install disc (new SSID name) then go 192.168.1.1 to change the Linksys ip to 192.168.2.1? Then follow instruction on page 2 of this thread?

All help is greatly appreciated and will prevent me from blowing my brains out in my effort to get rid of Actiontech for internet wireless.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:39:07 EDT

More Fiber :

said by el3ment000 :

Did they fix the small nat table or have a better firmware update? Better yet, did they stop using the actiontec all together?

FIOS customers in former GTE territories now receive the Westell 9100EM router. Although the Westell has the awkward GUI, it does indeed fix the NAT table. Search on "Westell" and "NAT".

edit:
Here's a post showing the large size of the NAT tableon the Westell:
»Re: [new technologies] New Actiontec MI424-WR replacement FROM V

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:10:59 EDT

el3ment000 : Hey Dudes!!!

I'm coming back to FiOS in a matter of weeks!!! (I've been without it for 6 months and i'm having withdrawals)

I set this up last year and it was great. Anything changed since then? Did they fix the small nat table or have a better firmware update? Better yet, did they stop using the actiontec all together? I guess i'll find out in a few weeks...

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:05:27 EDT

gorbachev : The setup is 100% correct, and it's working as intended. I've checked, and doublechecked it.

However, a firmware upgrade on the Actiontec seems to have solved the problem. It's been 3 or 4 days since the firmware upgrade now and I haven't had to reboot the Actiontec once yet. Typically I have to do that twice a day (once when I get home from work...it craps out sometime during the day, and once sometime late evening when it craps out again after the reboot).

Fingers crossed.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:04:18 EDT

More Fiber : I kinda figured it wasn't going to be that easy. :)

•I'm assuming your router is pulling the public WAN DHCP address (e.g. 72.x.x.x, etc). Correct?

•What is the LAN side subnet for your router?

•Is wireless in the Actiontec disabled?

•Are all PCs connected to your router?
i.e. Nothing connected to the Actiontec switch except the LAN-to-WAN cable.

•What subnet are the PCs and STBs being assigned?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:52:34 EDT

gorbachev :

said by More Fiber :

Sounds like at step 18, you have IP Address Distribution set to DHCP server, rather than DHCP Relay.

Nah. It's set to DHCP Relay.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:42:01 EDT

More Fiber : Sounds like at step 18, you have IP Address Distribution set to DHCP server, rather than DHCP Relay.

Actiontec did improve the NAT table situation with the Rev. E (GEN2) router, although still nowhere close to the Westell.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:17:57 EDT

gorbachev : NAT Error: No free NAT IP

This is what's in my Actiontec router log file whenever I start having Internet connectivity problems.

So it does seem like this setup is NOT bypassing the small NAT table problems like it's supposed to.

I'm convinced my setup is correct. I've doublechecked it a number of times.

I am a very heavy p2p user though.

Looks like I'm SOL until Actiontec decides to take their head out of their *** and fix the small NAT table problem with their router.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:08:30 EDT

More Fiber : You may want to try the instructions here:
»Re: MI424WR-GEN2 Rev E Configuration Thread

They were written specifically for the Rev. E Actiontec. Although very similar to the earlier models, there are some minor differences.
You can stop at "To Enable VOD, widgets, etc", since you do not have FIOS-TV.

If these instructions work for you, please post back indicating that you were successful.
Of course, if you have any issues, you can post back with those too. :)

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:16:42 EDT

braaaain :

said by More Fiber :

You didn't provide any information about your FIOS installation.
•Do you have FIOS-TV?
•Do you have an Actiontec router, or Westell router?
•Do you have a coax connection from the VZ router to the ONT?
•Is there a reason you are trying to make the Time Capsule your primary router?

Thanks for the quick reply.

1. I do not have FIOS-TV. I only have FIOS internet.
2. I have an Actiontec MI-424-WRv2
3. I have a coax connection from the ONT. I am aware that you can have Ethernet, but I didn't realize that at the time of installation.
4. I wanted to use the Time Capsule because I like 1) their configuration tools 2) the router features like print sharing etc and 3) I have a mac-only house and 4) I had the Time Capsule before I got FIOS, I'd like to actually use it.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:08:27 EDT

More Fiber :

said by braaaain :

The IP address listed on the Apple TC screenshot is not my IP at all, so that part is especially confusing.

The 169.254.x.x address on your router is a self-assigned APIPA address. That means your router is not able to reach a DHCP server.

This thread is the "double bridge" configuration, where your router becomes the primary router. The fact that you can't reach VZ's DHCP server indicates the first of the two bridges is not configured correctly.

You didn't provide any information about your FIOS installation.
•Do you have FIOS-TV?
•Do you have an Actiontec router, or Westell router?
•Do you have a coax connection from the VZ router to the ONT?
•Is there a reason you are trying to make the Time Capsule your primary router?

There are a number of other different ways to connect your own router. See the following FAQ:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What are the tradeoffs between the various router configurations

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:58:09 EDT

braaaain : double post WHOOPS

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:51:58 EDT

braaaain : I've followed the guide as best I can, and I think I did everything right, yet I'm still having some trouble setting this up with my Apple Time Capsule. Everything seems right on the Actiontec config page, when when I start up my Time Capsule, I get the following error message:

»j.photos.cx/screen-303.png

At this point, I have no idea what to do. I'm still able to edit settings on the Time Capsule, but I really have no clue what they're supposed to be. The IP address listed on the Apple TC screenshot is not my IP at all, so that part is especially confusing.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:34:06 EDT

Rickeo : Thanks.

Now I just need to figure out why my WRT54G (newest release of Tomato) doesn't want to play ball with my Acer Aspire One netbook. If gets an IP but I can't ping anything or open webpages yet every other machine and wireless laptop in my house works fine.

I don't think its the laptop because it worked fine on the WiFi network at my school AND Barnes&Noble today.

The connection repair utility in Win 7 says it can't communicate with the DNS server.

Very odd.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:45:50 EDT

More Fiber :

said by Rickeo :

The CON about the "double bridge" setup is that not all bridging info is saved in power is lost. What exactly are we talking about here? What will I have to re-do?

You will need to re-enable the second bridge.

If you are using the double bridge, I would suggest getting a small UPS (350VA) for the Actiontec so that the active configuration information is retained in the event of a power failure. If you want to go with a slightly larger UPS (550-750VA), you can power both the BBU(ONT) and the Actiontec and keep your internet connection up for several hours during a power failure.

said by Rickeo :

Also, is the only way for me to access the MI424WR's setup GUI to plug a machine directly into it and go to 192.168.1.1?

As the instructions are written, you might not even get connected to it that way. The 4 switch ports on the Actiontec become a WAN switch and are not part of your LAN. There may be a away around that, but I haven't tested it.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:34:11 EDT

Rickeo : More Fiber, there is a reason why you are a god around these parts...

I forgot to run the second CAT5 cable from the WRT54G back to the MI424WR... ;) Direction following ftw!

Thanks!

*EDIT*

The CON about the "double bridge" setup is that not all bridging info is saved in power is lost. What exactly are we talking about here? What will I have to re-do?

Also, is the only way for me to access the MI424WR's setup GUI to plug a machine directly into it and go to 192.168.1.1?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:26:59 EDT

More Fiber : This is the "double bridge" configuration.

Bridge 1 - Coax WAN to Ethernet WAN
cat5 cable from Actiontec port 1 to WRT54G WAN port.
Since you are getting internet off the WRT54G, this part appears to be working.

Bridge 2 - Ethernet LAN to Coax LAN
•Did you install the second cat5 cable from the WRT54G LAN port 1 to the Actiontec WAN port?
•In the properties for the Broadband Bridge, is DHCP relay set?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:10:16 EDT

Rickeo : Ok...

I went through all these steps and have my WRT54G w/ Tomato v1.25 as my main router. That works fine. All the machines I wire to and connect wirelessly to the WRT54G can get internet access perfectly fine.

Problem is that VOD/program info does NOT work because the STB's aren't getting IP's.

Why would that be?

Re: same o'l problems

Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:53:35 EDT

JohnA :
The lease is 2 hours. They renew themselves half way through (1 hour) if nothing goes awry. When you go to wait out the expiration of the lease, it will fall somewhere between 1 and 2 hours.

same o'l problems

Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:48:37 EDT

substance12 : I hate having to repeat my problems on this post but this is getting a little tiring. I'm usually pretty good at troubleshooting but I'm at a loss here.

I 'had' bridge mode and guide on the STB working, but every so often (2-3 mo) i would lose my settings. I thought this was related to power outage so i got a UPS. this didn't fix anything as I was still having my internet drop out until i redid all the configuration. guide on the STB used to work and now it doesn't... identical settings (I saved the config file) too. this is just casual observation but it always seems that the internet goes out (or router loses configuration... which ever it is) before I wake up (6:30am pst?). that's just casual observation on my part.

i've got a coax to ethernet connection. i believe i'm using the 2nd to latest firmware. I'm not sure if the latest firmware is better or not... all I know is that I couldn't get it to work using the latest firmware and to save myself trouble I just kept using the one before the latest.

update: i may have spoken too soon. so it turns out when I went home just now I have internet connection again. A new IP as well. in previous cases the new router wouldn't pull an IP. I'm actually using a different router than before with tomato instead of ddwrt. i'm not sure what's going on and if my old router wasn't able to renew an ip or not. internet was down for 90 mins or so. I think i read somewhere that it takes about 2 hrs to renew an IP.

does anyone know how long these dynamic IP's last for?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:27:13 EDT

More Fiber :

said by vrsnake :

My MacPro has a second ethernet port. Can I run a patch cable from that to the AT with a static ip in the AT's range so that I can configure it after power-downs without physically disconnecting from the DIR655?

Possibly. It would depend if you can set your browser to explicitly use that port and you would only be able to do so after resetting the Actiontec to factory defaults. Once the first of the two bridges has been established, the switch ports on the Actiontec are bridged to the WAN and you won't be able to connect to them.

said by vrsnake :

My DIR655's log is getting flooded with:

Dropped packet from 169.254.1.90 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session

I assume you've already seen the discussion of STBs and UDP broadcasts earlier in this thread starting here.

Those are broadcast UDP packets. They are from one or more of your STBs. The STBs send UDP broadcasts using APIPA addressing to communicate configuration information among themselves and with Media Manager PC software.

The "unable to create session" portion of the message implies the router is attempting to create a NAT table entry for a message that should never be routed. Since you have the latest firmware, I would suggest contacting D-Link support about the flood of messages. There is no reason your router should consider UDP broadcasts to be a problem.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:52:42 EDT

vrsnake : Hi. First I want to thank everybody for all the great info in this post. Following Yubin's info I have bridged my AT to my DIR655 and gotten VOD and the guide working. I do have 1 question and 2 problems.

Question: My MacPro has a second ethernet port. Can I run a patch cable from that to the AT with a static ip in the AT's range so that I can configure it after power-downs without physically disconnecting from the DIR655?

Problem 1: I tested my speed when only the AT was hooked up and I was getting 19 down and 18 up (my plan is 20/20). Once I hooked up the DIR655 with the AT bridged I'm getting 19 down but only 9 up as reported by speedtest.net???

Problem 2: My DIR655's log is getting flooded with:

Dropped packet from 169.254.1.90 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session

My DIR655 is at the latest firmware, and I've tried hard resting everything, & resetting it up but I still get that message over & over. Not sure if this is connected to problem #1.

Thanks, any help would be appreciated.

Re: Connecting Belkin F5D7230-4 in bridge mode?

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:05:59 EDT

MisterBill :

said by More Fiber :

What you are trying to configure is called Wireless Distribution System (WDS).
The Actiontec does not support WDS.

Thanks. That does sound familiar from when I was bridging the Belkins to begin with. I guess I will be moving the Actiontec, although i could just do it temporarily for now since I only need the connection to download the program guide and that will last for 10 days or so.

Re: Connecting Belkin F5D7230-4 in bridge mode?

Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:02:44 EDT

More Fiber : What you are trying to configure is called Wireless Distribution System (WDS).
The Actiontec does not support WDS.

Re: Connecting Belkin F5D7230-4 in bridge mode?

Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:17:27 EDT

MisterBill : Thanks, but that seems to be talking about leaving my Belkin wired into the Actiontec, which is not what I want to do. Don't I need to change the WEP key on the Belkin to match what it was set to on the Axtiontec? Do I need to make the SSID's the same?

Re: Connecting Belkin F5D7230-4 in bridge mode?

Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:05:28 EDT

More Fiber :

said by MisterBill :

No that's not what I want to do.

From your earlier post, I missed that you had two Belkins acting as a wireless bridge. Simply follow the instructions in the following FAQ to connect one of the Belkins to the Actiontec.
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Can I use my wireless or an extra router along with the Verizon provided router?

Re: Connecting Belkin F5D7230-4 in bridge mode?

Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:50:17 EDT

More Fiber :

said by dangerisgo :

After following the instructions to a T, I still fail to pull an external IP on my Smoothwall box.

There are a number of ways to run your own router. DaDragon 's thread is appropriate only if you do not have FIOS TV.
See the following FAQ regarding different configurations for running your own router:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What are the tradeoffs between the various router configurations

Re: Connecting Belkin F5D7230-4 in bridge mode?

Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:35:55 EDT

dangerisgo : So I currently am running a smoothwall comp (also acting as a DHCP server to an internal LAN) and would like my external Verizon IP to be fed to the external port on my Smoothwall. Is that possible? I've tried a few bridging methods on the internet (one on these forums by DaDragon) to no success. I also use the MI424WR modem/router. After following the instructions to a T, I still fail to pull an external IP on my Smoothwall box. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Connecting Belkin F5D7230-4 in bridge mode?

Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:08:46 EDT

MisterBill :

said by More Fiber :

Why not just use the Actiontec as you wireless router? Are you having signal problems?

No that's not what I want to do. Here is the problem I am trying to solve. I have a ReplayTV in a neighboring room from where the Actiontec is located. It needs a wired connection. I have it hooked up to a Belkin router which had previously been bridged (wirelessly) into the Belkin that had the DSL connection. I want to do the same thing with the Actiontec -- let the Belkin connect wireless to it so it can support a local wired connection.

I will probably end up moving the Actiontec to where the ReplayTV is at some point but since I still have speed issues I would like to leave it alone for now (I had it installed where it is so the installer could have easy access issues to it). The wireless signal on the Actiontec is actually pretty good, that is not an issue.

Thanks.

Re: Connecting Belkin F5D7230-4 in bridge mode?

Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:15:53 EDT

More Fiber : Why not just use the Actiontec as you wireless router?
Are you having signal problems?

The bridging instructions in this thread are for running your router (Belkin) as the primary router. That does not seem to be what you want to do. Nor do I recommend doing so. That particular router is an older model and does not have the throughput of the Actiontec.

The reason for the reset in the instructions is to restore the router to factory settings. If a user has changed settings in the router, those settings can interfere with the instructions in this thread.

If you don't want to use the wireless on the Actiontec, then simply run a cat5 cable from a LAN port on the Actiontec to a LAN port on the Belkin. Make sure DHCP server is turned off in the Belkin and that the Belkin has a static address on the Actiontec's subnet (192.168.1.2). This will allow you to use the Belkin as an Access Point (AP). You won't be using the WAN portion of the Belkin.

Connecting Belkin F5D7230-4 in bridge mode?

Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:20:54 EDT

MisterBill : I apologize in advance for asking this but the stuff I have read does not seem to apply specifically to my circumstance.

I've got a Belkin F5D7230-4 router and when I was connected using DSL I had two of them bridged together, using one as the main router connected to my DSL modem (which was not running as a router) and the other connected wirelessly. Now that I have FiOS, I am using the Actiontec to connect and want to continue using it because I have a Coax connection. But I'd like to leave the Belkin in another room and let it accept wireless connections and send them through to the Actiontec. What do I need to do to accomplish this?

Also what is the purpose of resetting the Actiontec settings in the instructions in the first post? I am able to login to the Actiontec router so that is not an issue.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 26 May 2009 17:04:56 EDT

anon : I have just completed the steps in this guide and everything works great, except that I'm speedtesting at 11mbit whereas before I was at 20mbit down. Upload is exactly the same if not slightly higher.

I saw some posts that had to do with having a 98.* external IP but mine is 173.* - I didn't exactly see any solutions.

The router I'm using is a brand new Linksys WRT54GL with the latest DD-WRT installed, so I'm assuming it should be more than powerful enough to get me the 20mbit throughput.

Any ideas? Thanks, and thanks for a great guide!

Re: For port forwarding, which router?

Mon, 25 May 2009 13:08:33 EDT

More Fiber :

said by jonnyjett :

I'm trying to forward a port for a program (uTorrent). With this setup do I need to configure the port in the Actiontec or do configure it in my wireless router, or both?

If you followed the instructions in this this thread, you only need to forward the port in your wireless router.

For port forwarding, which router?

Mon, 25 May 2009 12:51:56 EDT

jonnyjett : I'm trying to forward a port for a program (uTorrent). With this setup do I need to configure the port in the Actiontec or do configure it in my wireless router, or both?

Re: actiontec losing settings

Sun, 03 May 2009 08:20:26 EDT

More Fiber :

said by substance12 :

i'm using an old firmware as i couldn't figure out how to do the bridge config with the newer firmware. should that make a difference? i'm pretty sure i don't have any auto update going on.

If you're saying you tried to bridge with the 11.6 firmware, then VZ must have pushed it to you. Did you roll it back to the older firmware? If so, then the resets you experienced were either an attempt to push it again, or unrelated. Although I doubt they would attempt to push it again, if it had been pushed successfully.

This is the first I've header of anyone not being able to implement this configuration on 11.6. 11.6 has been out for a while (end of Feb. IIRC).

Re: actiontec losing settings

Sat, 02 May 2009 22:27:57 EDT

substance12 :

said by More Fiber :

said by substance12 :

i'm aware the actiontec loses the bridging settings after a power outage... so i bought a ups... but still, every 3 months or so it loses its settings anyways.

There have been a couple of firmware pushes by VZ since the beginning of the year. Those could cause a hard reset on the router.

i'm using an old firmware as i couldn't figure out how to do the bridge config with the newer firmware. should that make a difference? i'm pretty sure i don't have any auto update going on.

Re: actiontec losing settings

Sat, 02 May 2009 22:10:11 EDT

More Fiber :

said by substance12 :

i'm aware the actiontec loses the bridging settings after a power outage... so i bought a ups... but still, every 3 months or so it loses its settings anyways.

There have been a couple of firmware pushes by VZ since the beginning of the year. Those could cause a hard reset on the router.

actiontec losing settings

Sat, 02 May 2009 14:45:51 EDT

substance12 : i'm aware the actiontec loses the bridging settings after a power outage... so i bought a ups... but still, every 3 months or so it loses its settings anyways. anyone know what's up with that?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 01 May 2009 21:25:33 EDT

More Fiber :

said by Zcool31 :

What happened is my Linksys router was able to get an IP from verizon, but is still unable to connect to the internet.

If the Linksys is getting a DHCP address from VZ, it IS connecting to the internet. That indicates that at least the coax WAN to ethernet WAN (Network H/O) bridge portion is working.

What do you mean by "(Linksys) can't connect to the internet"? Do you mean a PC connected to the Linksys? Wireless? Is your PC attached to the Linksys? Is it pulling a local DHCP address from the Linksys? Can you communicate with other devices on your LAN?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 01 May 2009 10:27:36 EDT

Zcool31 : Hello Everyone! I followed the instructions to configure the Actiontec router in bridge mode, with a Linksys WRT54GL as my primary router. This setup worked just fine until yesterday. What happened is my Linksys router was able to get an IP from verizon, but is still unable to connect to the internet.
I tried to redo the setup several times, each time releasing the IP from the broadband(coax) connection and setting it to no IP address. And each time, my own linksys router is able to DHCP an IP for itself, but for some reason can't connect to the internet.
Inerestingly enough, when I do a hard reset on the actiontec and wait long enough, I'm able to connect to the internet directly from it. But when I redo the bridge setup, it fails again.
I tried calling verizon and claiming that I wasn't getting internet on the actiontec. Each time they would break my DHCP lease, and the actiontec would get itself a new IP and give me internet connection. Of course, when I redo the bridge setup after this, no internet for me. Any Help??

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:52:09 EDT

anon : I tried changing the home/office 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.2.1 but that just shuts the globe light off (dark) and I don't get any internet access.

that was in error, i changed it to 192.168.3.1

the bridge says 192.168.2.1

sorry

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:50:39 EDT

anon : Hi all.

Please forgive my ignorance.

I have followed the detailed directions on bridging the Actiontec to my Linksys router.

However the amber/yellow light on the globe never becomes green and though I get internet access, the STB are not working correctly.

I know it's been mentioned that it's an address conflict. A couple of months ago, I remember changing an address that made the globe go green, but I have forgotten what that was or where I did it.

I tried changing the home/office 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.2.1 but that just shuts the globe light off (dark) and I don't get any internet access.

Would someone be kind enough to instruct me what settings to change and on what page?

Any help would be most appreciated by this newbie.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:35:47 EDT

Sailing_Nut : I just searched the FAQ and found the following answer:

»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Replacing the Actiontec (part 3): WAN-to-LAN keeps Guide and VOD (easier)

Since I do not need the STBs on the same sub-net as the rest of my network, I can use the very simple method listed in that FAQ.

Hope this helps others!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:29:55 EDT

Sailing_Nut : Thanks for this great tutorial!

I have looked through some posts and can't seem to find a situation similar to mine.

I just got my FiOS TV hooked up today. (I've had FiOS Internet for about 2 years) The technician connected the CAT5 from the ONT to the WAN port on the Actiontec and also connected the coax port to the splitter. The coax comes from the ONT to the input side of the splitter.

When I look in the Actiontec router, it shows the Coax connection as down and the Ethernet WAN as up. I can also see that the STBs were assigned IP addresses.

I then made a change to allow the Actiontec to work with my network configuration and set the DHCP to pass-through so that my W2K3 server can hand out the IP addresses. That is all working and the STBs are assigned IPs from the server. I have also verified that widgets are working as well.

What I can't exactly figure out is how to do the bridging from this configuration.

Some more information.... When I go into my "Network (Home/Office)" properties it shows the following "underlying devices"

Ethernet
Coax
Wireless Access Point
Coax Stats

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:30:41 EDT

More Fiber : Thanks for the update.

I still think you have a wireless interference problem. Could be a neighboring network, microwave, cordless phone, etc.
A good tool for detecting interference is NetStumbler.

•I'm assuming that you disabled the WAP in the Actiontec per the original instructions. Correct?

•What happens if you disable wireless in the D-Link and enable the wireless in the Actiontec?
Note: You don't need to revert to the original config if you move the WAP under the second (broadband) bridge and then enable it.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:59:10 EDT

antixian : just an update. i went and purchased the dlink dir-825 and this same wireless restart crap is happening with this new router as well. i am absolutely stunned and have no idea what could be causing this restart. it's very frustrating as i've had this same setup for over a year with no problems and now 2 different dlinks are having the same problem. anyways not to keep this off topic but the steps to make my actiontec as a bridge described in this thread has not failed me...just my 2nd router, and only within the past 2 weeks!!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:17:42 EDT

antixian : incase i wasnt clear i meant i do not get those 169.xxx...messages as long as the stb's are unplugged...i am still having wireless resets regardless if those are plugged in or not. i've also changed channels but it seems nothing i do makes a difference.

i'll go over these links you posted and let you know how it goes. thanks for the suggestions and help! i find this to be quite odd as it just started doing this and i have not touched either router both physically as well as through admin panels. maybe my dlink is just dying?

here's something interesting...i downgraded the firmware from 1.21 to 1.11 and now instead of just stopping/starting the wireless service on it's own, it reboots the entire device. i'm sitting here refreshing the statistics page and i'm currently at 14972 errors listed in the wireless statistics section. think i may just try to rma this piece.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:20:44 EDT

More Fiber :

said by antixian :

after my reset and reconfig of the actiontec i went and unplugged both STB's. now i no longer get that message that i spoke of above but i am still having wireless resets. here's a new log file sample.

So that rules out the STBs and the NAT table in the D-Link as the issue.

Have you tried a different wireless channel?
There are some good wireless troubleshooting tips here:
»Wireless Networking Forum FAQ

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 05 Apr 2009 23:56:46 EDT

antixian : when i mean directs to actiontec...instead of
Dropped packet from 169.254.1.150 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session
to something similar but with the actiontec ip listed instead. i know this is not helpful but i no longer have the logs with that particular message and dont remember specifically what it said.

after my reset and reconfig of the actiontec i went and unplugged both STB's. now i no longer get that message that i spoke of above (which i didnt have in the log to show exactly) but i am still having wireless resets. here's a new log file sample.

[INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:52:12 2009 dredg: Wireless system with MAC address 0023DF11C695 secured and linked [INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:52:12 2009 dredg: Wireless system with MAC address 0023DF11C695 associated [INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:52:12 2009 Above message repeated 1 times [INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:52:08 2009 Log viewed by IP address 192.168.0.187 [INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:52:07 2009 Wireless link is up [INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:51:51 2009 Log viewed by IP address 192.168.0.187 [INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:51:46 2009 Wireless link is down [INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:51:46 2009 Wireless restart [INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:51:46 2009 Disconnect all stations [INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:51:46 2009 All Wireless shut down [INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:51:43 2009 Wireless restart [INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:50:53 2009 Log viewed by IP address 192.168.0.187 [INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:49:59 2009 Above message repeated 2 times [INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:49:40 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 71.252.203.66 to 192.168.2.1 [INFO] Sun Apr 05 22:49:32 2009 Above message repeated 14 times

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:44:44 EDT

More Fiber :

said by antixian :

when i unplug them from the wall i dont get that message anymore but it then directs to the actiontec itself.

What do you mean by the statement "directs to the actiontec"?

If you unplug the STBs, does your wireless connection stay up?

As has been stated before, the 169.254.x.x traffic from the STBs is perfectly normal.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:25:51 EDT

antixian : well i didnt set it that way just saw that it was so i turned it off on the dlink. it is setup on actiontec as dhcp relay.

i do only have one dhcp server and it's the dlink. all devices can connect no problems and get IP's...just the wireless restarts constantly every 4-7mins and that 169.xxx msg shows up in log. it is the 2 STB because when i unplug them from the wall i dont get that message anymore but it then directs to the actiontec itself.

i forgot to add that i've had this configuration for almost 1 year now and just recently started having this problem.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:52:47 EDT

More Fiber : Why did you have the D-Link set for DHCP relay and why did you turn it off?

DHCP server in the Actiontec should be set to DHCP relay. The D-Link should be set to normal DHCP server.

You need one DHCP server on your LAN. If devices on your LAN can not reach a DHCP server, then will assume a 169.254.x.x address.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:19:01 EDT

antixian :

said by milkmandan :

but i am still getting lots of
Dropped packet from 169.254.1.32 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session
in my router log.

i started having this problem recently. only difference for me is that it happens every few seconds and then after about 4-7 minutes my wireless shuts down and automatically starts back up. i have no idea why. i also noticed something pulling an IP on the network that did not have a name only a MAC address. after using GFIlan guard i found out what it is (although i'm still not sure) but gfi says it's a Motorola CHS. anyone know what this is?

i've reset the actiontec and reconfigured the bridge get internet just fine and wired pc's have no issue. but something is causing my wireless to shut down and start back up every 5mins or so i'm clueless to what to do. i've read other posts and tried settings to no avail...it just keeps doing the same thing. i unplugged both STB's thinking that would stop the 169.x.x.x messages in the logs but then it just did the same message to the actiontec instead. here is a sample of my log.

[INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:42:02 2009 Wireless link is up [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:42:00 2009 Blocked incoming TCP connection request from 78.49.121.107:3112 to 72.64.103.6:445 [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:57 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.229 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:54 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.150 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:44 2009 Above message repeated 1 times [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:42 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.229 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:40 2009 Wireless link is down [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:40 2009 Wireless restart [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:40 2009 Disconnect all stations [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:40 2009 All Wireless shut down [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:38 2009 Wireless restart [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:35 2009 Above message repeated 1 times [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:34 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.150 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:26 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.229 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:23 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.150 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:13 2009 Above message repeated 1 times [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:11 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.229 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:41:03 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.150 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:57 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 72.64.xxx.xxx to 192.168.2.1 [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:55 2009 Above message repeated 2 times [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:55 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.229 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:53 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 72.64.xxx.xxx to 192.168.2.1 [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:52 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.150 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:42 2009 Above message repeated 1 times [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:40 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.229 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:32 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.150 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:24 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.229 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:21 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.150 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:11 2009 Above message repeated 1 times [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:09 2009 Wireless restart [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:09 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.229 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:07 2009 Wireless restart [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:01 2009 Dropped packet from 169.254.1.150 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:40:01 2009 Wireless restart [INFO] Sat Apr 04 22:39:58 2009 Above message repeated 1 times

and this message - Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 72.64.xxx.xxx to 192.168.2.1 - started happening after i turned off the dhcp relay on the dlink dir-655. do i need to turn that back on?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:35:37 EDT

substance12 :

said by Teasip :

One other suggestion that I would make is that if you are able to eventually get the AT to work as a bridge copy the configuration setting so that if push comes to shove you can always restore it to that functional configuration. The EXCEPTION to the rule which I found out a week or so back was that if you upgrade the firmware for whatever reason (I did just for the sake of doing it) then the backup configuration file is read as "corrupt". Once I rid myself of my "blond" moment and got everything set back up correctly all has been peachy (it even allowed for the return of an Airport Express for one of my TiVo's).

I've gotten the bridge to work before and funny thing is... I ran into the same exact same problem you cited. upgrading the firmware screwed up my config file... i had to revert.

Basically my process whenever "something" goes wrong with my connection and I'm unable to pull a new IP is the following:

1. disconnect linksys and hook up PC to AT
2. reset AT to default settings, pull IP (i'm not sure if this is necessary but I do it anyways)
3. turn off auto wan detection, turn off getting new IP, release IP
4. load saved config file
5. hook up linksys again as per OP. at this point my linksys should be getting an IP instantly.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:26:21 EDT

Teasip : One other suggestion that I would make is that if you are able to eventually get the AT to work as a bridge copy the configuration setting so that if push comes to shove you can always restore it to that functional configuration. The EXCEPTION to the rule which I found out a week or so back was that if you upgrade the firmware for whatever reason (I did just for the sake of doing it) then the backup configuration file is read as "corrupt". Once I rid myself of my "blond" moment and got everything set back up correctly all has been peachy (it even allowed for the return of an Airport Express for one of my TiVo's).

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 01 Apr 2009 03:01:16 EDT

More Fiber : If the Actiontec is primary, and you release its lease, reconfigure the Actiontec as a bridge, then the Linksys should be able to pull an IP from VZ without resorting to cloning the IP address. This seems to work in the majority of cases. However, there are situations where this does not work. It appears to me that this may be due to VZ having different DHCP server implementations in some COs.

As far as which MAC address to clone, I'm going to have to go back and scan the thread to find the specifics. I don't normally recommend cloning MAC addresses, except when replacing routers, since duplicate MAC addresses on the same segment would cause problems.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:54:21 EDT

substance12 : fiber: i was looking through this post and I noticed in some cases you advise to clone the broadband ethernet mac addy. but above you say to clone the broadband coax mac. what am i missing here? also, if my linksys router is pulling an IP and i have cloned none of the mac addys on the AT, what's going on?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:33:00 EDT

More Fiber : Broadband coax = coax WAN or MOCA WAN.
coax = MOCA LAN.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:22:40 EDT

substance12 :

said by More Fiber :

When you cloned the MAC address of the Actiontec, did you clone the coax WAN MAC address to the Linksys? The Actiontec has multiple MAC addresses.

i'm trying to figure out what mac address i did clone. it doesn't appear to match any of the mac addys... but it works. that's odd. when you say "coax wan", you're referring to coax, not broadband (coax), right? that's the mac addy that's closest to the one i cloned. the last 2 digits are different. i'm not sure where i got the mac address i entered into the linksys. i have a feeling if i change it i'll lose my IP.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:15:52 EDT

More Fiber : There are other reasons the Actiontec can reset, such as a firmware push by VZ, or a code "panic" in the kernel of the router. Neither of these should affect TV (except VOD) and neither should occur very often.

In general, you will usually keep the same WAN IP address as long as the primary router continues to renew the DHCP lease. The convention (not required by RFC2131) is to renew the DHCP at 1/2 of the full DHCP lease interval. VZ's standard DHCP lease is 2 hour. After one hour most routers will renew the DHCP lease, thereby keeping the same IP address.

If the router truly reset it's configuration, the coax WAN port would normally come back up as primary and would request a DHCP lease. It could take up to two hours for the coax WAN port to acquire a DHCP lease, if the existing DHCP lease was owned by the other router (Linksys).

There are a number of different DHCP server configurations.
•A typical LAN DHCP server will issue a new IP address to a new MAC address. The DHCP lease from the old MAC address will eventually expire. For obvious reasons, VZ does not permit this on the WAN side.
•Some DHCP servers will release an existing lease as soon as a new request is received from the same MAC address. Cloning a MAC address usually works here.
•Some DHCP servers will not release the DHCP lease until it expires. Powering off both routers for two hours or calling the FSC will work here.

When you cloned the MAC address of the Actiontec, did you clone the coax WAN MAC address to the Linksys? The Actiontec has multiple MAC addresses.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:57:51 EDT

substance12 : I don't get this. I'm aware that the AT can lose it's bridging config on power failures... which is why I bought a UPS. Earlier today something wacky went on ( i wasn't home to observe). The cable and internet went down, as was told to me. The tv came back but the internet is still down. it could be that it is genuinely down... I doubt this. It could be that the AT screwed up again, but how... I have a UPS. if a new IP was issued, wouldn't my linksys pull it?

As a secondary issue, whenever the power did go out and I had to setup everything again, I would always have to have the AT pull the IP first, then release, then setup, and hook up linksys. Even though I clone the mac, the linksys never wants to pull the IP first.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:15:26 EDT

el3ment000 : Thanks More Fiber,

You have helped me with my networking issue yet again. I knew it was something simple like that, but was drawing a blank for a moment.

By the way, your first option worked like a charm. I made sure that I released the lease and unplugged the cable immediatley. The new router picked it up immediatly.

Cheers!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:49:17 EDT

More Fiber : Gigabit switch is irrelevant.

You problem is probably your WAN DHCP lease. In this bridging configuration, your router is primary. i.e. It is the one that obtains and holds the DHCP lease.

If you simply disconnected the old router, it's WAN DHCP lease was not released, so when you connected the new router, it could not obtain a WAN DHCP lease.

You have several options:
•Reconnect the old router. Release it's DHCP lease. Immediately disconnect it to prevent it from obtaining a new DHCP lease. Then connect the new router. The router should request & obtain a WAN DHCP lease.
•Clone the MAC address of the old router to the new router.
•Power off the old router for 2 hours to allow the DHCP lease to expire. Then connect the new router.
•Call the FSC to break your DHCP lease.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:47:21 EDT

el3ment000 : Hi guys,

I set this up last year and it worked perfectly with my Linksys WRT54GS..

Recently, my linksys is acting up so I decided to buy a new router. The Linksys WRT310N.

I hooked up the new WRT310N in the same configuration as the OLD WRT54GS, however, I cannot obtain a WAN ip address anymore. Any Ideas?

The new router has a gigabit switch on it, not sure if that's going to cause an issue. I've tried power cycling multiple times.. I've logged into the actiontec to verify the DHCP rely on the bridge. Everything seems to be the same, just new router.

Any help is appreciated! Thanks guys.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:06:10 EDT

More Fiber : Are you on a different IP block after releasing the old IP address?

The bridge adds a small amount of latency, but shouldn't affect your speeds that severely. My guess is that you now have an IP address on a new IP block that the geo-location servers have no clue about. See these threads:
»Since move to 98.113.x.x, higher ping, slower, no geo locate
»The internet thinks I'm in Canada

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:49:04 EDT

jonnyjett : Made the switch successfully, using my Buffalo WHR-G54S with DD-WRT v23. Thanks OP!

Here are my observations from my main computer (XP SP3, with Zonet USB wireless adapter):

1. At speedtest.net my DL speed went from 20Mbps to 15Mbps and my UP speed went from 5Mbps to 2Mbps.

2. Speedtest.net, before the switch, selected the Los Angeles server as the closest server to run the test from. Now it selects Springfield, Missouri as being the closest. I'm located near Los Angeles.

Any advice or suggestions?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:35:44 EDT

jpg : EDIT: replied to wrong thread! oops

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:26:22 EDT

milkmandan : i actually did update my firmware. and now i am getting these messages with the latest firmware

perhaps i should go back down to my old version. :\ as that didn't have this problem.

well these log messages aren't affecting my performance in any way, my VODs are working, and my internet is stable. :\
i prolly should just leave it alone.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:57:59 EDT

More Fiber :

said by milkmandan :

i am still getting lots of
Dropped packet from 169.254.1.32 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session
in my router log.

I'd suggest checking that you have the latest firmware for your router. If you do, then try searching the support pages for your router to see if others have had this problem. As I stated earlier, since the 169.254 packets are not supposed to leave the LAN, there is no reason that your router should be trying to create a NAT table entry for them.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:14:31 EDT

milkmandan : Well i fixed it.
Internet now has no disconnects or slow downs.
but i am still getting lots of
Dropped packet from 169.254.1.32 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session
in my router log.

:\
I am hoping all these error messages dont cause issues for my router.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:51:06 EDT

More Fiber : I doubt VZ is doing anything. It's possible that a power glitch could have fried something in the ONT or either router.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:18:52 EDT

milkmandan : hey morefiber, thanks for the reply

Yeah, I've reset both routers since the power glitch occurred :(

I re did all the steps to set this back up as well.

I do not have Media Manager PC software installed.

I'll try to power cycle the STBs..

*redoing the process again. i'll get back to you, see if anything has changed/fixed.

edit: I've noticed my IP has changed now.
I am hoping Verizon isn't doing something on their end which is causing my disconnects.
Thinking this whole thing is a problem with my setup, when it actually the problem lies with them.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:54:44 EDT

More Fiber :

said by milkmandan :

I am getting continual log messages in my 2nd router saying:
Dropped packet from 169.254.1.137 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session

The clue here are the 169.254.1.255 address.

Protocol 17 is UDP. The destination address is the 169.254.1.x subnet broadcast address. The STBs broadcast discovery packets in this manner on a regular interval. Normally, this should not be a problem. However, from the log message, your router seems to be trying to create as NAT table entry for these broadcasts. 169.254 addresses are non-routable (i.e. they should remain on the LAN), so a NAT table entry should never be created.

•Have you reset your router since the power glitch occurred?
•Do you have the Media Manager PC software installed?

It wouldn't hurt to power cycle the STBs, but that won't stop them from sending discovery packets periodically.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:18:28 EDT

milkmandan : So a new problem has arisen for me.

I was using this set up from Yubin's very first post:
»Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Everything was working great for several months, then due to heavy heavy rain in my area, we got a very short, very small power out.

After the power out, everything booted back up and fine, but we lost the VOD and Guide info. This is a known problem...whatever.
Internet was fine and still pulling an IP from Verizon.

So I took a weekend to reset everything and redo the instructions from Yubin's first post.

Everything is working again, but i am getting disconnect from the internet once every 5-10 min. This is very frustrating.
I am still connected to my network, confirmed.

I am getting continual log messages in my 2nd router saying:
Dropped packet from 169.254.1.137 to 169.254.1.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:00:21 EDT

More Fiber : Step 11 of the original instructions disables DHCP server on the first (Network H/O) bridge as there is no need for it.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:00:57 EDT

anon : The First bridge which is the home/office bridge has DHCP Relay set.

The second bridge has it disabled. It seems to be working, so if I lose VOD and Widgets again I'll go back and set that first and see if that works.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:51:03 EDT

More Fiber : Not sure why you're saying you have two DHCP relays. Only the second bridge should have DHCP RELAY set. Where is there other one?

Your STB's need to get DHCP addresses or you will lose VOD, guide data and widgets.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:41:36 EDT

anon : I forgot to add that my router wouldn't let me have two DHCP Relay's going at once, so I turned it off on the bridge.

Works just as well, so who knows.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:37:42 EDT

anon : Thank you very much for all of your help More Fiber!

It works again!

Now I know what I need to do when it acts up again, seriously, thanks!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:33:42 EDT

More Fiber : In order to directly connect to the Actiontec, you will need to set a static IP address in your PC on the 192.168.1.x subnet.
DHCP server is disabled in the Actiontec.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:30:36 EDT

anon : I cannot get into the Actiontec router. It isn't spitting out an IP at me when I connect directly to it and my new router isn't showing it as being connected.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:10:01 EDT

More Fiber :

said by Regnevelc :

Yes, the new router still has an IP from Verizon.

Okay, that a good sign. I'm assuming there are no issues with a PC connected to your router either getting a DHCP address from your router, or being able to browse the internet.
yubin 's instructions create two bridges in the Actiontec:

We've confirmed that that the first bridge is working, so we need to focus on the second one.

You should see two bridges.

If you do not see entries indented under each bridge, switch to ADVANCED view.
Both bridges should show CONNECTED.
Underneath the Broadband Bridge your should see two entries:

Both interfaces should show as UP.
•Click on the BROADBAND BRIDGE.
You should see the bridge properties.
•Click SETTINGS

After the router reboots, power cycle the STBs by unplugging the AC (power button is not sufficient).

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:43:28 EDT

anon : I cannot find a way to get into the old router via the ports in the back.

The new router does not say it is connected to the old router, it only shows my laptop and my fiance's laptop on the connected tab.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:28:20 EDT

anon : Yes, the new router still has an IP from Verizon.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:55:21 EDT

More Fiber : Check to make sure the second bridge (broadband bridge) is configured correctly and is up.

Also check that your router has a public WAN IP. If your router's WAN IP address is 192.168.1.x, then the Actiontec has been reset and you are no longer bridged.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:38:29 EDT

anon : And yet, my on-demand quit working today.

This is frustrating, I might just run a long ethernet cable.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:27:08 EDT

birdfeedr :

said by BubbaGump :

My concerns about double natting lead me to believe that option three is probably my best bet. Are there guidelines anywhere for how to go about setting this up? I didn't see anything referenced.

Off-topic but here it is.

With Actiontec as primary, in this example say 192.168.1.1 is LAN IP. Decide if both routers in close proximity which will handle wireless. My secondary router is N-wireless, so Actiontec wireless is disabled.

Another option is to have them both running but in different areas, using same wireless-G settings except channels are different. That way you can have a larger wireless coverage area.

1. Set actiontec LAN network DHCP range to start at 192.168.1.3 (or higher to accommodate other static IPs). Ensure the DHCP range includes .100 to .150 for the STBs.

2. Set secondary router LAN network to static 192.168.1.2, disable DHCP.

3. Power off both primary and secondary routers, then connect patch cable from a LAN port on one to a LAN port on the other router.

4. Startup primary, connect PC and verify internet connectivity.

5. Startup secondary, connect PC and verify internet connectivity.

Suggest steps 4 and 5 connectivity test be made wired. Depending on what you chose for wireless, you would set the wireless config in steps 1 and 2 and test wireless connection as a step 6.

If you have problems or questions about this setup, post in new topic.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:05:22 EDT

anon : Ah, I just set it to what my username and PW is for verizon email.

It is working now, but I have no clue what my friend did to fix it.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:56:39 EDT

anon : MoreFiber - thanks for your response.

Great recommendation -- i'm definitely going to move to one of the first three options....i think i can live with the small nat table in order to get some simplicity and not have to go through the bridging routine over and over.

I have a couple of extra questions, if you don't mind. First, what are the main negatives of having the second router being doubnle nat'ed. I realize one negative is having to set up the port forwarding twice. Are there others? I am pretty sure the double natting is one of the main reasons I bridged in the first place, but I can't recall precisely.

My concerns about double natting lead me to believe that option three is probably my best bet. Are there guidelines anywhere for how to go about setting this up? I didn't see anything referenced.

Thanks for your advice....
br

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:44:56 EDT

birdfeedr :

said by Regnevelc :

Do I need to transfer the PPPOE settings to the new router to pull the information?

Verizon uses OpenPPPoE. Signin and password can be whatever you want, perhaps it has a minimum length. Actiontec PPPoE default is "verizonfios" and "password".

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:46:29 EDT

anon : Do I need to transfer the PPPOE settings to the new router to pull the information?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:26:03 EDT

More Fiber :

said by BubbaGump :

I'm honestly considering abandoning my router and just sticking with the Actiontec as the primary. I bridge primarily so I can use my D-Link wireless-N router, which is quite a bit faster than the Actiontec. Sucks to use the slow Actiontec, but the process of having to re-setup the bridging all the time is very disruptive and time consuming.

I assume by "slow" you mean the wireless speed compared with the wireless-N, and not the processing speed of the router.

There are connection options, other than this thread, if your primary concern is the wireless-N support.
See the following FAQ:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What are the tradeoffs between the various router configurations

If you want to stay with coax to the Actiontec, options 1, 2 or 3 are appropriate.

If you decide to switch to a cat5 connection between the ONT and your router, then options 6 or 7 are appropriate.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:09:56 EDT

birdfeedr :

said by Regnevelc :

It says I am connected via PPPOE 2, which is the Coax connection, but I cannot find anywhere to release the IP. Because of this I cannot follow the steps in the OP and it is driving me nuts!

If your WAN connection is PPPoE, then there is no need to release the WAN IP. The PPPoE releases and renews when it connects.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:32:55 EDT

anon : Argh, I had this working last week then all of the sudden my VOD and Widgets quit working. So I went to do it all over again and reset the router to the factory defaults and when I go into Broadband Connections (Coax) it says the IP distribution is disabled and I cannot release/renew the IP.

It says I am connected via PPPOE 2, which is the Coax connection, but I cannot find anywhere to release the IP. Because of this I cannot follow the steps in the OP and it is driving me nuts!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:30:45 EDT

anon : Well, three nights ago suddenly my guide/vod/widgets all stopped working. Interwebs and everything else continued to work fine. I'm using the bridged setup referenced in this thread -- got it set up and had it working quite well for over two months.

So i powered off/on the router and STB but no dice -- can't get them to work again. Speak with Verizon and neither could they. Ultimately, last night i had to factory reset the router and now vod/guide is working again, but im back on the actiontec as the primary router.

Now I'm faced with going through the entire setup procedure again if i want to bridge, which isn't a prospect im looking forward to. Took me several days to get it to work last time, primarily due to dhcp lease release issues.

I'm honestly considering abandoning my router and just sticking with the actiontec as the primary. I bridge primarily so I can use my D-Link wireless-N router, which is quite a bit faster than the actiontec. Sucks to use the slow actiontec, but the process of having to re-setup the bridging all the time is very disruptive and time consuming.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:39:16 EDT

birdfeedr : Power failure will make the config info saved in volatile memory get lost. Saved config may fail if it was saved from an earlier firmware revision. Rebooting to factory default may have been the opportunity for it to update the firmware.

1 "will" and 2 "may"s. Just guessing on the last two, since I can't bridge.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:13:45 EDT

anon : I have everything working for few months. It stopped working last night for some reason. I rebooted the VZ router last night and no go. I thought it was the VZ problem and I contacted them. They had me reset the router since they can not get into router with the config. After the reset, it start to work again, but of course with the default config.

I reload the config from my saved config file... still no go.

Why all the sudden it stopped working?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:11:03 EDT

More Fiber :

said by chrisdab :

Whenever I go through the step to "Disable the DHCP Server under IP Distribution" in the Network (Home/Office), I can never log back into the Actiontec router unless I reset the router. Currently I have DHCP Server enabled and when I try to connect to the Actiontec, I get the IP from verizon

Try setting your PC to a static IP address on the Actiontec subnet (192.168.1.x). That way when you turn off DHCP server, you will still have a valid IP address.

The fact that your PC is pulling a WAN DHCP address from VZ, indicates that the first bridge is set up correctly. Your router (not your PC) should be pulling the WAN DHCP address from VZ.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:13:50 EDT

chrisdab : I have always had problems trying to set this up. Whenever I go through the step to "Disable the DHCP Server under IP Distribution" in the Network (Home/Office), I can never log back into the actiontec router unless I reset the router. Currently I have DHCP Server enabled and when I try to connect to the actiontec, I get the IP from verizon

Also, I have tried cloning the MAC address of my computer on the WAN ports of both routers and setting a different gateway addresses of 192.168.0.1 along with other things but have only once gotten the settings to just work right. Since then, I cant replicate what I did.

Now even following the vanilla instructions of Yubin's first post, I cant access the actiontec.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:11:36 EDT

anon : as soon as i changed my ipaddress of the fios router all worked.

Thanks for the help.

mike

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:36:11 EDT

More Fiber :

said by school89 :

on you reply message you stated
SS #6: It appears you missed step 11. SS shows USE FOLLOWING DNS ADDRESSES which are zeroes.

Sorry, my mistake. I was looking at the DNS SERVER line, not the IP ADDRESS DISTRIBUTION LINE which is correctly disabled.

Screen shots have already been posted in this thread here:
»Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:16:52 EDT

anon : inter address is 71.182.xxx.xxx
I am able to surf the web without a problem.
i am using the linksys with DD-wrt v24 sp1
DNS is
DNS1 192.168.1.2 - Linksys router
DNS2 71.252.0.12
DNS3 71.250.0.12

on you reply message you stated
SS #6: It appears you missed step 11. SS shows USE FOLLOWING DNS ADDRESSES which are zeroes.

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
11) Disable the DHCP Server under IP Distribution.

I have the ip address Distribution set to disabled. I did change the dns to none.

I have went thru the instrucitons again and still unable to get the guide/vod/widgets.

can someone post SS of how their setting are I am not quite understanding this. I driving me crazy.

Thanks
Mike

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:37:24 EDT

rocky01 :

said by More Fiber :

said by rocky01 :

I then had to wonder if I could connect LAN to LAN correctly if I'm still on coax until I get switched to ethernet?

Yes, that is option 3 in the trade-offs FAQ:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What are the tradeoffs between the various router configurations

Thanks, I'm slow on the uptake due to school vacation week!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:43:45 EDT

kapscable : Ah, I see what you mean. My setup would be option 3. I use a Windows Server 2003 R2 as my DHCP. It also hosts all my music, movies, etc that I access within my home network. Besides virtual PCs, I only have about 3 other computers running on my network most of the time. I haven't seen any issues with the small NAT table, but I don't think I am accessing the Internet anywhere near enough to cause a problem. Plus NAT is not enabled on my server so I do not have to worry about doubling up NAT like in some of the other options.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:09:45 EDT

More Fiber : There are numerous ways to "bridge" your own router. There is a summary of the various approaches here:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What are the tradeoffs between the various router configurations

I don't understand what you mean by "I only have Home/Office bridged with DHCP disabled". The router comes with Network Home/Office already bridged.

I can't tell from what you are describing if you are using option 1 or option 3 in the FAQ. As indicated in the table at the top of the FAQ, options 1 through 3 are all subject to the small NAT table issue in the Actiontec, since the Actiontec is still the PRIMARY router.

Option 5 (this thread) is a way to use your own router as PRIMARY and avoid the small NAT table issue in the Actiontec while keeping the coax WAN connection.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:40:39 EDT

kapscable : I am a little confused about the issues people are having with their STB. I will be honest, 20 pages is too much for me to read. But since day 1, I have only used my FIOS router for an Internet connection. I did not setup any rules to bridge the broadband connection. I only have Home/Office bridged with DHCP disabled. But I specified the IP address and subnet mask of my DHCP server. I left everything checked for STB and I do not have any problems with the VOD or widgets.

Basically, the FIOS router is my WAN gateway. My internal LAN is completely separate. The only configuration I made was to setup my LAN using the IP address of the FIOS router for the Default Gateway. This way it picks up the outside Internet connection, but controls everything internally. Everything works perfect and I can easily add additional switches, access points, etc.

Are you guys trying to bypass the FIOS router and have your personal router connect to the broadband connection instead? If so, what would be the purpose?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:03:45 EDT

More Fiber :

said by school89 :

i can get internet. unable to get guide/vod/widgets.

In my previous response, I asked specific questions, which you did not answer fully.
•Go to INTERNET STATUS screen of the Linksys. Does the Linksys have a WAN DHCP address from VZ?
•What are the first two octets?
•You stated you can get internet. Please confirm that you are connected to Linksys when you do this.
•In your Linksys WAN (internet) settings, what are your DNS SERVER settings?

In reviewing the screen shots:
•SS #6: It appears you missed step 11. SS shows USE FOLLOWING DNS ADDRESSES which are zeroes.

quote:
11) Disable the DHCP Server under IP Distribution.

•SS #4: It appears you missed step 17. SS shows NO DNS SERVER.

quote:
17) Change DNS Server to Obtain DNS Server Address Automatically

Follow the instructions exactly. Do not skip instructions. Do not improvise. The instructions do work if followed correctly.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:26:52 EDT

anon : I have my set up like this
fios router lan port 1 to linksys wan port
linksys port 1 to fios wan port.

i can get internet. unable to get guide/vod/widgets.
I am including a few screen shoots.

Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:10:31 EDT

More Fiber :

said by school89 :

I can get the internet to work kinda of.

What do you mean by that? Which router are you connected to when you can get to the internet?

If you have the first bridge setup correctly:
•The Linksys should be able to pull a WAN DHCP address from VZ. Is this occurring?
•You should be able to connect to the internet from a PC attached to the Linksys. Can you do this?

The most common cause of the Linksys not pulling a WAN DHCP address is not releasing the DHCP address from the Actiontec correctly.

Once the Linksys can pull a WAN DHCP address, then the problem is usually the second bridge.
•Check that you have a cat5 cable from a Linksys LAN port to the Actiontec WAN port.
•On the Network Connections page, you should show both Broadband Coax and Broadband Ethernet connected.
•Make sure DHCP server is enabled in the Linksys and disabled in the Actiontec. The DHCP settings for the second bridge should be "DHCP Relay".
•Reboot the STBs and they should pull an IP address from the Linksys.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:35:08 EDT

anon : I am unale to get this to function correctly. I can get the internet to work kinda of. When I go to the 192.168.1.1 router interface i do not see a ip address. I am geting the ip from my linksys with DD-WRT. I am unable to get the widgets/VOD. If anyone can assist me that would be great. I know i have left out a few details on the setup.

Thanks
Mike

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 13 Feb 2009 05:10:10 EDT

More Fiber :

said by rocky01 :

I then had to wonder if I could connect LAN to LAN correctly if I'm still on coax until I get switched to ethernet?

Yes, that is option 3 in the trade-offs FAQ:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What are the tradeoffs between the various router configurations

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:45:22 EDT

Kyusaku :

said by More Fiber :

After adding the second bridge, your network connections should look like this screen shot:
»Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Note that that BROADBAND CONNECTION (Ethernet) and COAX are indented under BROADBAND CONNECTION (BRIDGE) as indicated by the red arrow. If they are not, delete the bridge and try adding it again.

If they are properly indented, you can click on BROADBAND CONNECTION (BRIDGE) to display it's properties. The DNS settings are displayed near the bottom as shown in the second screen shot.

Yes, but if "Internet Protocol" is set to "No IP Address", those fields are initially hidden. You have to change to Obtain IP Address automatically to make them visible.(This is why I messed up the first time, I didn't see the fields and didn't know they appear if you change the protocol.)

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:06:37 EDT

rocky01 : I tried this and ran into the problem as well and after I realized I could not proceed I reset router and started over again and somehow it worked second time. However I then had to wonder if I could connect LAN to LAN correctly if I'm still on coax until I get switched to ethernet?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 12 Feb 2009 05:33:22 EDT

More Fiber :

said by Kyusaku :

I had an issue with trying to do this setup last night.

quote:
16) Check Edit the Newly Created Connection and click on Finish

17) Change DNS Server to Obtain DNS Server Address Automatically

When I got to 17, I didn't see an option for DNS in the Bridge config screen that came up when I hit Finish and just got flushed with the install and gave up having to wait 2hrs for the DHCP lease.

After adding the second bridge, your network connections should look like this screen shot:
»Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Note that that BROADBAND CONNECTION (Ethernet) and COAX are indented under BROADBAND CONNECTION (BRIDGE) as indicated by the red arrow. If they are not, delete the bridge and try adding it again.

If they are properly indented, you can click on BROADBAND CONNECTION (BRIDGE) to display it's properties. The DNS settings are displayed near the bottom as shown in the second screen shot.

said by Kyusaku :

Has anyone been able to get FIOS TV Central working with this config?

There is a lot of information in the following thread:
»FIOS TV Central website access with Non AT Router?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:49:44 EDT

Kyusaku : I had an issue with trying to do this setup last night.

quote:
16) Check Edit the Newly Created Connection and click on Finish

17) Change DNS Server to Obtain DNS Server Address Automatically

When I got to 17, I didn't see an option for DNS in the Bridge config screen that came up when I hit Finish and just got flushed with the install and gave up having to wait 2hrs for the DHCP lease.

Which config screen is this option suppose to be in?

--------------Edit-------------------
I had to switch on Obtain IP address automatically before the DNS Server and DHCP settings even appeared on the page.

I think I got the connection working, but my STBs are in offline mode. I unplugged the box for about a min or 2, I don't think my router has assigned any boxes IP addresses yet. I don't think I missed anything in the step-by-step by the OP.

If anyone needs info on my 2nd router is an WRT-54GL with Tomato firmware and the first is the Actiontec MI424-WR Rev D. This is Coax connection, not CAT5.

------------Edit------------------
I got VOD and Widgets to work by changing the IP saved in Home/Office on the Actiontec.

Has anyone been able to get FIOS TV Central working with this config?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:14:02 EDT

John97 : Thanks for the reply. From what I can tell, my setup should be immune to this since my Actiontec is behind my other router, as I have an ethernet install.

I had everything shut down for several hours a few days ago and everything still works as normal since I turned it all back on.
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Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:07:03 EDT

More Fiber : And VZ pushing new firmware, which causes a reboot.
Infrequent, but does happen.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:54:59 EDT

rocky01 : Thanks.

I'm tempted to try this until I have Cat 5 enabled but I too wonder about the reboots that I know happen here more often than I like.

Is it just power interruptions, power surges and/or reboots that cause trouble?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:50:44 EDT

More Fiber :

said by John97 :

How long of a power outage is required for this loss of config everyone is talking about?

Long enough to cause the router to reboot. Probably on the order of a fraction of a second.
The config information that is stored in flash memory does not save the second bridge properly.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:47:25 EDT

John97 : How long of a power outage is required for this loss of config everyone is talking about?
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Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:47:10 EDT

More Fiber :

said by rocky01 :

Does the work with Rev C Actiontec?

If you mean the instructions in this thread, then yes, they work with Rev. A through Rev. D Actiontec routers. Don't know about the Next Gen (Rev. E) Actiontec yet.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:38:52 EDT

rocky01 : Does this work with Rev C Actiontec?

I wasn't sure what Rev D in thread title was refering to and did not want to go through all 13 pages unless I have to.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:33:08 EDT

More Fiber :

said by Kyusaku :

Since power outages can cause loss of config, how long can the router last on a 350VA battery backup

According to this post, the Actiontec draws 16 watts. According to this APC chart, the run time for the BE350G is 16 minutes at 50 watts. So you're probably good for about 55 minutes (80VA/23VA*16min).

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:19:34 EDT

Kyusaku : Since power outages can cause loss of config, how long can the router last on a 350VA battery backup like this one »www.apc.com/resource/include/tec···u=BE350G

Re: Does this cause MRDVR to break?

Sun, 08 Feb 2009 06:14:44 EDT

Garcia6595 : Well, Verizon finally came out yesterday and switched me over to Ethernet...and WOW, what a difference!!! After a month and a half and two AT's later, I finally have full powered FIOS. I'm using a Buffalo 108mb router on the edge and it's smokin'. My only issue now is I don't have an N router....

Thanks for all the help fellas!!!

Re: Does this cause MRDVR to break?

Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:02:31 EDT

John97 : Thanks for the excellent posts you've made about the multiple-router configurations/issues.

I have a PPPOE ethernet install so I went with the spirit of option #6.

The layout is of course:

ONT --ethernet--> DIR-655 --ethernet--> MI424WR --coax--> STBs.

I configured the DIR-655 and made sure it had a working connection to the ONT then did a hard-reset of the Actiontec (mine is actually a Revision C).

The DIR-655's isset to 192.168.1.1 and I changed the Actiontec to 192.168.0.1, with the Actiontec WAN connected to LAN on the DIR-655 of course. The Actiontec wireless is disabled. I made no other changes.

My DIR-655 is configured to reserve 192.168.1.2 for the Actiontec and I enabled remote administration on the Actiontec via port 80.

The 192.168.1.2 address is configured as DMZ on my DIR-655 (not necessary but eliminates double NAT of video traffic).

Everything works (VOD, guide data, MRDVR) as it should.

My STBs are at 192.168.0.100 through 192.168.0.105. The Actiontec has nothing else connected.
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Re: Does this cause MRDVR to break?

Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:19:48 EDT

jjoshua :

said by More Fiber :

jjoshua didn't post why he chose option 5, so there is no way to determine if that is the best option in his case.

I went with option 5 so I could reuse the cable coax which was already installed. It would have been difficult to run cat5 from the ONT to my router.

I use my router because I like m0n0wall. I use the traffic shaping feature to prioritize outbound voip. I also use P2P and everyone says that the actiontec has NAT problems. If I could make everything work with the actiontec, then I would evaluate using it as my primary router.

Re: Does this cause MRDVR to break?

Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:51:11 EDT

GChuzi : Oh.

Re: Does this cause MRDVR to break?

Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:47:53 EDT

More Fiber : Just to be clear, my response to jjoshua was with respect only to option 5 (this thread) in the tradeoffs FAQ. AFAIK, the communication between the MR-DVR and the STBs should work with any of the options, since the communication path is purely MOCA LAN.

Option 7, which you referred to, resolves an issue with an issue with communication between the MediaShare software (picture and music sharing) and the MR-DVR which exists when the MR-DVR and the PC are on different subnets.

jjoshua didn't post why he chose option 5, so there is no way to determine if that is the best option in his case.

Re: Does this cause MRDVR to break?

Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:13:19 EDT

GChuzi :

said by More Fiber :

said by jjoshua :

Is there anything with this config which would cause MRDVR features to stop working? How about remote web dvr programming?

I believe that playback of a MR-DVR recording on another STB "should" work with this configuration.

I put my AT behind a Linksys N using Part 4 of the FAQ, option 7. All of the guides, VOD, widgets, etc., work flawlessly. In addition, we're able to view a video using the MR-DVR. I'm not into using the web to control recordings, so I can't evaluate the FAQ's warning that this utility won't work after the reconfig.

Re: Does this cause MRDVR to break?

Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:02:25 EDT

More Fiber :

said by jjoshua :

Is there anything with this config which would cause MRDVR features to stop working? How about remote web dvr programming?

I believe that playback of a MR-DVR recording on another STB "should" work with this configuration.

Did you verify that the both the MR-DVR and the STB were able to get VOD, guide data and widgets before attempting the MR-DVR playback? IOW, were they able to obtain DHCP addresses from your router and connect to the internet? Although the MR-DVR and STBS utilize APIPA addressing to communicate with each other, verifying that the STBS can obtain VOD/guide is a double check that the bridge is set up correctly.

Remote DVR access may or may not work. See this thread:
»FIOS TV Central website access with Non AT Router?

Whether it makes sense to go back to this config is up to you. You should review the considerations regarding multiple router configurations here:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What are the tradeoffs between the various router configurations

Does this cause MRDVR to break?

Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:14:05 EDT

jjoshua : Is there anything with this config which would cause MRDVR features to stop working? How about remote web dvr programming?

I just got installed today and everything was working great with the config. However, when I went to watch a dvr recording on another stb, it didn't work.

When I called verizon, they couldn't see the router and I had to undo everything back to the default config.

Once I get the MRDVR working using the default config, can I go back to this config?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:24:41 EDT

wolf2989 :

said by More Fiber :

If you can't pull a WAN IP address on the secondary router, it is usually because the Actiontec's DHCP lease is not getting released.

VZ seems to have 3 different DHCP implementations:

MAC cloning as suggested by Garcia6595 may work with the 2nd and 3rd options.

You need to make sure that the router (any router) does not immediately reacquire a new DHCP lease after releasing the current DHCP lease. Also, some routers do not have a feature to release the DHCP lease.

I'd prefer to use my PIX and that doesn't have the ability to clone a MAC. I have no problems rebooting the ONT to get the lease released.

Would simply shutting down the ONT and configuring the AT then after its all done bring the ONT back online? That way the AT has never actually gotten a dhcp lease to begin with.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:33:51 EDT

More Fiber : If you can't pull a WAN IP address on the secondary router, it is usually because the Actiontec's DHCP lease is not getting released.

VZ seems to have 3 different DHCP implementations:

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:05:54 EDT

Garcia6595 : Try cloning the MAC address of the AT broadband coax interface to your routers WAN interface. Then take the MAC addy of your routers WAN interface and drop it into the AT broadband coax interface. That's the only way I was able to get out to the internet.

Those settings are under the advanced tab and to the right you will see MAC Cloning.

Make sure you are releasing the IP from the AT first.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:39:02 EDT

wolf2989 : I can't for the life of me to get this to work. I am using a PIX 501 as the secondary router. It refuses to pull a WAN IP address. I even tried a Linksys router and it won't pull one either. I followed Yubin's directions to the letter. I've attached two screenshots of the network connections setup.

Any ideas??

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:37:26 EDT

jjoshua : This connection scheme is exactly what I was looking for. Being able to use the actiontec as a moca bridge in and out is a pretty neat trick.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:25:26 EDT

Garcia6595 : Gotcha, that explains the DHCP issue.

I guess as far as the dropped connections and the slow speeds go, my best bet is to wait until it happens again and call Verizon without rebooting so they can take a look at it??

Thanks for the info so far man, I appreciate it!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:30:46 EDT

More Fiber :

said by Garcia6595 :

Also, when I release an IP from the AT, it takes at least an hour for it to grab a new IP from Verizon...that doesn't seem right???

The standard VZ DHCP lease is two hours. At 1/2 of that interval (1 hour) most DHCP clients (including the Actiontec) will renew the DHCP lease. The effect is that you will always have at least 1 hour, but never more than 2 hours remaining on the DHCP lease.

There seems to be 3 different DHCP implementations on VZ's side.
•Not MAC bound. Can get new lease immediately as soon as DHCP lease is released.
•MAC bound for duration of original DHCP lease. Can not get new DHCP lease until original lease interval expires without being renewed, ONT is rebooted, or FSC breaks lease.
•Permanently bound. Have to call FSC to release.

You need to make sure that the router (any router) does not immediately reacquire a new DHCP lease after releasing the current DHCP lease. Also, some routers do not have a feature to release the DHCP lease.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:35:01 EDT

Garcia6595 : I do heavy torrent downloading, but when I was on Comcast, and using the same router I'm using now, I never had an issue. I have the dropped connections even without the torrents, so I guess that does point to something other than a NAT problem...

I can log in to the AT when I have no Internet so I'll have to take a few screen shots when that happens.

I also have had to bounce the AT almost everyday because of this. I'm usually not patient enough to just wait and see if it comes back up on it's own without bouncing it.

Also, when I release an IP from the AT, it takes at least an hour for it to grab a new IP from Verizon...that doesn't seem right???

Thanks for the link on the ONT.
BTW, I restored the defaults on the AT so now my router is just a WAP.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:23:48 EDT

More Fiber : NAT table issues are primarily due to P2P and gaming. You haven't indicated if you do heavy P2P or gaming. If bridging to your own router did not solve the dropped connections, then it is probably not a NAT table issue, unless your router also has a small NAT table.

When you experience a dropped connection:
•Can you login to the Actiontec?
•How long does it take before you can get a new connection?
•Do you reboot the Actiontec?

You can find instructions for rebooting the ONT here:
»Re: ONT Power Outage Question

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:49:16 EDT

Garcia6595 : -Yes, at times I do get the 20Mbs

-I thought the dropped connections were do to the NAT problem, hence the bridging??

-Dropped connections are on all PC's, not a PC issue.

-Only rarely have I seen pixelation, not nearly as frequent as the dropped connections.

-I actually had a tech come out 3 weeks ago (before the bridging) for the same problems and he tested the coax and he said it was fine.

-When it's working the up stream is good.

-All cat5 is new. Not to say it's not possible to have a bad one, but unlikely.

-I have not rebooted the ONT, don't know how and I didn't know I could.

-Yes I have run the speed optimizer

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:35:56 EDT

More Fiber : You should have resolved the intermittent dropped connections and slow speeds before you went to the bridging configuration. There is nothing in the bridging configuration that will resolve those problems. Bridging is going to make troubleshooting more difficult. If you call the FSC for support, they will want you to reset the Actiontec to it's original configuration.

Since I didn't see a post from you from before you attempted the bridging, some questions:
•Have your speeds ever been good?
•Have you run the speed optimizer?
•Are the dropped connections occurring on all PCs?
•What happens when you watch VOD? Do you see any pixelation?
•Are you getting pixelation on any TV channels?
•If you go to MY NETWORK->NETWORK CONNECTIONS->FULL STATUS->COAX STATS, do all paths between devices show speeds greater than 200Mbps?
•Have you tried rebooting the ONT?

Some of the problems you could be experiencing:
•PC issues
•Bad ethernet cable
•Bad coax connection
•Bad ONT
•Upstream problems (bad PON)

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:13:35 EDT

Garcia6595 : Hello all, first thanks for all the great info!!

OK, I have the MoCA connection and everything is bridged correctly. All interfaces that should be up are up. I can use the internet(kind of) and my TV is fully functional.

But I'm still having the same damn problems I was having before all of this with intermittent dropped connections(hard wired)and incredibly slow speeds. I don't understand what it could possibly be??

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:47:07 EDT

birdfeedr : When you have a power failure you have to re-enable the WAN port bridge. Others have suggested a UPS to help avoid that problem. Once the bridge is established, the STB should (not necessarily will) pick up its connection as you observed.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:45:56 EDT

anon : One more thing! When I turned the WAN port back on, I did not have to power cycle the STB. When I went back to it, it already had it's IP back.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:42:55 EDT

anon : Looks like I'm still having a bit of an "issue." After getting everything up and running, it was time to hide the sea of cables. I knew turning off the AT would likely result in disabling it's WAN port, so when I couldn't browse the guide or pull up widgets I went back and in and re-enabled. But last night (about 3 or 4 days after hiding all the cables) I couldn't search the guide again. Sure enough, the STB had no IP address.

This is where it got to be a pain in the ass: since all my cables are "hidden" I had to get under my desk, pull the cable connecting my PC to the Linksys, connect to the AT and turn it's WAN port back on. I turned off remote administration in case that's somehow the culprit (plus it's not like I can get into it if the WAN port is disabled).

But is this a fact of this set up? Will the WAN port periodically disable itself?

As a temporary/most-likely-permanent solution, here's what I did. I turned Wireless on the AT on (with DHCP) with MAC filtering and added my PC's wifi MAC. If ever the WAN port disables, I connect to the AT wirelessy and turn it back on.

I'll most likely hide the AT's SSID and manually set the channels each router uses to minimize interference (since they're 6 inches apart!).

So back to my original question: is this "normal" behavior for the WAN port?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:26:37 EDT

rob356 : So to do the steps for the STB bridge, I have to do it all over again, right?

@mc2wheels - When the actiontec loses power, it gets all messed up. What I have done is reset to factory defaults, make sure the WAN light turns green, and let it run overnight. Then do the bridging over again.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:39:47 EDT

anon : I followed the steps at the start again... and this time they worked. I have no idea what I did wrong the first time. But if things power cycle (if I lose power or one of my kids unplugs the actiontec), how do I reconnect then. I realize that I have to plug back in with a cable, but will I have to just set an ipaddress on that subnet on the machine that I want to use to fix things? That's fine if that works.

Anyway, thanks again to everyone on this thread. There is a wealth of information here. Once I read everything, then I understood the first post and was able to do it correctly.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:32:05 EDT

More Fiber : @mc2wheels, and apologies to rob356 :

Once you have configured the first bridge, you won't be able to disconnect from the Actiontec and then get back into it using the "LAN" ports. By configuring the first bridge, you have turned those ports into "WAN" ports, which is why you are able to pull a WAN IP address on your router.

Follow the steps in order, without disconnecting from the Actiontec. You can connect the cables as indicated before you start. Reboot the STBs as indicated in last step. After rebooting the STBS, guide data may take a while to populate, but VOD and widgets should be available as soon as the STB reboot is complete.

You can try my suggestion in this post about enabling remote admin to allow access to the Actiontec admin GUI. mark91 did not post back, so not sure if he tried that suggestion. You will want to configure that before you disconnect from the Actiontec.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:17:27 EDT

anon : Well, I tried this, and got into trouble. I was able to get my dlink dir-655 to give out IP addresses, and I was able to connect out with my computer, but like others, I was not able to get the widgets or VOD to work. I had guide data. I feel like a real moron, but I cannot figure out what I am doing wrong. Also, I find that once I have set up the bridge (and can get computer IPs from my dlink router), I can no longer connect to the actiontec even with a cable connected to any of ports 2-4 on the actiontec(and going to the default IP of 192.168.1.1). What am I doing wrong to break that? I thought that this would always work, and it makes it hard to check the configuration if I cannot view it. I had to hard reset the actiontec this morning to get into the admin, and it would not release its IP so I ended up having to call FIOS.

I have had FIOS for a day, and I really appreciate the people on this thread for all of the information provided here. Hopefully I am just doing something foolish that is just so obvious that no one else states the right way. Also, can anyone insert into the directions at what point the various cables are connected to and from each router, and when to power set top boxes on or off. I really would like to try this again. I had many machines connected wirelessly and through wired switches to my Dlink. I don't want to redo my whole network.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:37:57 EDT

rob356 : I Tried plugging a computer into the second switch port of the actiontec, and no IP from it. I tried to assign it a static IP, one that the actiontec would give it, and I still could not access the Actiontec. How am I supposed to complete those steps?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:33:33 EDT

More Fiber :

said by rob356 :

Now it works! Now how can I get the Widgets/VOD working? Thanks.

By completing the steps you skipped? :D

Since the WAN bridge is now working, complete steps 13-24 to configure the LAN bridge. Connect a cat5 cable from a LAN port on your router, to the WAN port of the Actiontec.
Reboot the STBS and they should now pull a LAN IP address from your router.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:05:04 EDT

yubin : EVERYONE THANKS FOR THE POSITIVE FEEDBACK.
Ok sorry for the caps but I haven't visited my on thread in a while and it is very moving to see so many people use this guide. I wrote it out of frustration when I couldn't find any that suited MY needs. the best part is that I have had to re-read my own post to re-setup my actiontek. Again Thanks for all of the feedback and a BIG thanks to everyone for continuing to provide help on the matter.

-Yubin

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:29:06 EDT

rob356 : Now it works! Now how can I get the Widgets/VOD working? Thanks.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:59:40 EDT

rob356 : OK, i will try that later, as I do not have access to the device right now, thanks for the help!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:52:38 EDT

More Fiber : Sorry, you did say you had done a hard reset twice. Third time the charm? :D

Let's try focusing on one bridge at a time.
•Follow steps 1-12.
•Jump ahead and follow steps 25-28.
•With the Actiontec LAN to Linksys WAN cable in place, reboot the Linksys and see if it pulls a WAN IP address.

At steps 5-6, it is very important to release the DHCP lease and then set NO IP ADDRESS quickly, before the Actiontec can reacquire a DHCP lease.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:35:07 EDT

rob356 : Hard Reset as in Press and hold reset button for 30 seconds? If so then yes

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:27:28 EDT

More Fiber : Have you done a hard reset on the Actiontec before configuring the bridge again?

The Actiontec has a known issue with not "remembering" the dual bridge configuration. This is documented in both the thread and in the following FAQ under option 5:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What are the tradeoffs between the various router configurations

If you are going to run the dual bridge configuration, an UPS is highly recommended.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:09:28 EDT

rob356 : Actually ignore my last comment, it failed. I just got it working a few days ago, and we had a power failure, so the actiontec and the linksys rebooted. Now I cannot get the actiontec into bridge mode! The linksys had lost its IP after the PF, then when I reset to factory defaults and tried again, TWICE, both failed. When the actiontec is in normal mode it pulls an IP fine, and the linksys pulls a LAN ip from the actiontec.
What should I do?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:02:05 EDT

More Fiber : You can access the admin functions of the Actiontec in the this bridged configuration if you enable Remote Administration the Actiontec (Firewall->Remote Admin).

192.168.10.20 is a LAN address on the Linksys LAN. However, it is the WAN address of the second Actiontec bridge.

Keep in mind that enabling remote administration will open it for access on both the 192.168.10.20 address, and your public WAN IP address. If you choose to enable Remote Admin, be sure you have a robust user name and password. You may also want to enable only a HTTPS Port (443 or 8443).

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:40:10 EDT

anon : I'm done!

The second bridge is SIGNIFICANTLY easier to set up. The only "problem"? The AT picks up a WAN IP from my Linksys in the correct range (192.168.10.20) and I can ping this address from my PC when connected to the Linksys, but if I try to get into the AT's admin page by entering that address I get nothing. Not really a big deal, but I thought something like that should be doable.

Thanks to this thread! To think, I was actually thinking of going back to DSL and DirecTV. Ok, not really.

Now they just need to fix the HDMI issue...

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:58:30 EDT

rob356 : Thanks for the Guide, it worked almost flawlessly for me. The only problem was that the new router (linksys) took around 20 minutes to pull an IP from Verizon, not a problem, just thought I would let everyone know that. Thanks again, wonderful guide!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:16:22 EDT

More Fiber : You have it correct.

Don't be afraid to try it. Just take it one step at a time. Check your work as you go. Lots of folks have followed the bridging instructions successfully. If you get stuck, just post here. Quite a few folks here that can help.

If you get stuck at a point where you can't get back online, just do a hard reset on the Actiontec and you should be back to the way it was when the installer left.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:23:33 EDT

anon : More Fiber,
Thanks for the help and it looks like you've helped alot of people on this forum. Keep up the good work.

Yes, I will be getting FIOS Tv as well as Phone.

So, the coax from the ONT goes to a splitter. Out of the splitter goes coax to the Actiontec and any other STBs - right? Then, in step 4 the configuration is done by connecting to the Actiontec. Once the config is done, a computer is connected to the Lan ports out of the 2nd router. Is this correct?

With an amateur like I am, do you see me able to get all of this working?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:26:02 EDT

More Fiber : The second bridge does indeed matter if you want VOD and guide data on the STBs. Without the second bridge there is no data path between your WAN connection and the STBs.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:27:41 EDT

anon : I don't think the MAC on the AT matters as long as it's not a duplicate on your network. I just clone my PC's MAC and changed the last pair to 00. I should note that I still haven't set up the second bridge, but I don't think that matters either.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:04:30 EDT

More Fiber :

said by SeekingHelp :

One computer plugged directly into your Actiontec ethernet port 2

I'm presuming you are also getting FiOS-TV.

1) The coax goes to your main splitter, then to the Actiontec. This provides the WAN path (ONT to router) and the LAN path (router to STBs) on different frequencies.

4) The computer plugged into the Actiontec is only for configuration purposes. Once the bridge has been configured on the Actiontec, the ethernet ports on the Actiontec are NOT usable as LAN ports.

Other than that, you've got it correct.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:24:55 EDT

anon : Understand that I do not yet have the FIOS installed and do not yet have an Actiontec modem and can't see the back of the equipment (ports etc.). I do have a Dlink Dir-655 wireless router for my "2nd" router. Now confirm or correct my understanding of what you say about the wiring (I presume this is about wiring).

You say:
Coax -> Actiontec -> Actiontec:Ethernet connection1:RJ45 -> 2ND Router Internet Port(WAN Connection)-> 2ND Router:Ethernet port 1:RJ45 -> Actiontec:WAN (Internet)ethernet port.(Sounds redundant but your second router is the new DHCP and the actiontec uses that dhcp to give itself an internal ip and provide internet for your STB's

One computer plugged directly into your actiontect ethernet port 2

MY Understanding is:
1. Coax cable out of ONT goes into the Actiontec.
2. An ethernet cable in Lan port of the Actiontec goes into the 2nd router Wan port.
3. On the 2nd router,a ethernet cable comes out of an ethernet lan port into the Actiontec's Wan ethernet port.
4. A computer is plugged directly into the Actiontec's ethernet Lan port 2.

Is this what you are saying?

When you say ethernet port do you mean Lan port? When you say Wan you DO NOT mean Lan right? Forgive me since I'm so new at this and again, I do not yet have the Actiontec to look at - I only have my Dlink router.

If I can get the wiring down I will feel somewhat more confortable!

Thanks alot!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:23:16 EDT

birdfeedr : I thought cloning the Actiontec's MAC address was a last resort method if the Actiontec didn't release the WAN IP. yubin's original instructions did not specify such a step, and on 2nd page (I'm viewing 100 posts per page), he specifically says it's not required.

MoreFiber suggested cloning the MAC address as a response to failure of new router to pick up an address.

WAN IP failure to release has been known to happen, but it's not a common occurrence.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:48:50 EDT

Hangetsu : Mark91, out of curiosity what did you set the ActionTec's MAC address to (not the actual value, but based on what)?

I figured if I go bridged mode, I should make my router (DLink) have the MAC address of the ActionTec. I don't know what I should set the ActionTec to (or does it not matter)

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:17:35 EDT

triplesec : Glad to hear it worked out for you Mark91, now if only someone could figure out how to get Fios TV Central to work with this setup so that we can control our DVR through the internet. :p

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:20:49 EDT

anon : SUCCESS!

As I originally feared, having cloned the MAC to the Linksys and not changing it on the AT was preventing me from "getting out" despite being assigned my WAN IP. Changing the MAC for the AT's BB Coax, I'm now able to browse the net!

Next up: Setting up the second bridge.

Later next up: Getting a picture from FiosTV on my Sony with HDMI! :p

Thanks

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:04:41 EDT

anon : I should clarify that I did continue with the other steps despite not moving on to set up the second bridge, ie. Wireless, firewall, etc. DHCP comes from the Linksys (set up as 192.168.10.1) - my PC gets a valid IP from that range and I'm able to log in to the Linksys admin page (which is where I verified it's getting the WAN IP).

I think it may be as simple as triplesec's suggestion of rebooting the PC. I have a NAS on my network (connected to the Linksys) before I introduced the AT, I was able to get in without a hitch; but when I set up AT->Linksys->everything else, I couldn't browse the shares or get into the admin page. I rebooted the PC and all was well.

I'll give it another go as I'm starting to see the limitations on the AT's NAT table and my Usenet download speed is topping out around 13Mb, while I'm paying for 20. It's about 5 times faster than DSL, but I'm saying...

One quick question for the road: would it matter that I have essentially set up the AT and the Linksys with the same MAC (through cloning)? Keep in mind I'm just setting up the first bridge and am aware I likely have to clone another MAC to the AT once I move onto the second bridge.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:32:39 EDT

birdfeedr : From the Help Text on a DIR-655 Firmware 1.11:

MAC Address Filter (Network Filter)

The MAC address filter section can be used to filter network access by machines based on the unique MAC addresses of their network adapter(s). It is most useful to prevent unauthorized wireless devices from connecting to your network. A MAC address is a unique ID assigned by the manufacturer of the network adapter.

24 -- MAC Filtering Rules

Configure MAC Filtering
When "OFF" is selected, MAC addresses are not used to control network access. When "ALLOW" is selected, only computers with MAC addresses listed in the MAC Address List are granted network access. When "DENY" is selected, any computer with a MAC address listed in the MAC Address List is refused access to the network.

MAC Address
Enter the MAC address of the desired. Computers that have obtained an IP address from the router's DHCP server will be in the DHCP Client List. Select a device from the drop down menu, then click the arrow to add that device's MAC address to the list.

Clear
Click the Clear button to remove the MAC address from the MAC Filtering list.

===================================
Emphasis added. That's the only place it mentions wireless in the help text. Elsewhere, in the short version as well as the full text, it's implied filters work on the entire network.

Also, see the post here »broadbandreports.net/forum/r2103···ess-Only for reference to a possible earlier FW that did separate wireless MAC filtering from wired. Second post says 1.11 filters both. Third post says determined intruder can get past it anyway.

My advice is to enter it if you want to enable MAC filtering. If you want to test if it's required, after the bridge is working, drop that particular MAC to see if the bridge is still working.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:03:01 EDT

Hangetsu : No, I understand that part (although thanks for the images to confirm what I thought)... I just want to make sure I don't need to add the ActionTec to the Allow list if I'm MAC filtering. Separate question :)

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:30:27 EDT

More Fiber : I'm not referring to MAC filtering. Under Manual INTERNET SETUP, there is an option to clone the MAC address of the router.
[att=1]
On the Actiontec, go to System Monitoring ->full status
You will see a MAC address for each interface. Be sure to use the MAC address for the Broadband ethernet interface as the MAC address you enter on the D-Link.
[att=2]

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 03 Jan 2009 13:55:55 EDT

Hangetsu : Anyone that's got this working with a DLink DIR-655: The DLink's MAC address filter is interesting in that it not only filters Wireless traffic, but also anything connected via cable (i.e. won't let a hard-wired device work either).

To set this up, do I need to set the MAC address for the ActionTec in the allowed list of the DLink? In particular, I'm thinking about the VOD connectivity.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 03 Jan 2009 03:03:02 EDT

triplesec :

said by Mark91 :

I've been trying this process for the last 2 days with very little luck. At this point, I can't even get Internet, so I'm concentrating on that before moving on to the secondary bridge and the STBs.

I have FiosTV and Internet (connected to the ONT via coax). I have a Linksys WRT600N with DD-WRT that I want to use as my primary. I've successfully set up the first bridge as the Linksys gets a 173.70.x.x WAN IP (note: I can only get a WAN IP if I clone the AT's MAC to the Linksys).

This is as far as I get. The Linksys has had this WAN IP for an hour and some change, but I'm still not able to browse the Internet. I'll also note that if I restore the defaults to the AT and connect directly to it, it still takes some time for my connection to the Internet to function normally.

At this point, I'm seriously considering going CAT5 from the ONT to the Linksys, fishing from the second floor of my house up to the attic, then down 2 floors to the garage. I have an eager wife who's more than willing to help, so I'm sure it would get done, but I'd like to avoid that hassle since the first bridge appears to be set up correctly.

Do you have your router and the Actiontec on the same IP? I am running DD-WRT as well and I had to set my router ip address to 192.168.2.1, the actiontec likes to hog 192.168.1.1. First set up your DD-WRT router to 192.168.2.1 and then press hold the reset button on the back of the actiontec for about 15 seconds before releasing. Let it reboot and then do Yubin's directions.

Then reboot the DD-WRT and reboot your computer. Its important that you reboot your computer. Check to see if the internet works.

Also make sure that you have your wires set up correctly. You should have a wire going from the Actiontec Lan port to the WAN port on the DD-wrt router. A wire going from the dd-wrt lan port to the WAN internet port of the Actiontec.

Connect your computer to the Actiontec lan port 2 to do Yubin's directions and then make sure to unplug the computer from the Actiontec and plug it into the DD-WRT and reboot your router and computer.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:33:27 EDT

More Fiber : Since the Linksys is pulling a WAN IP address, you need to focus on getting connected via the Linksys. At this point, I assume you have stopped at step 12.

Jump ahead and execute steps 25 to 28.
25)click on Wireless icon at the top
26)Select Basic Security Settings and turn Wireless OFF.
27) click apply.
28) Click on Firewall Settings -> Click Yes -> Select Minimal Settings -> Click apply -> select yes

Connect a PC to the Linksys. The Linksys should have DHCP server enabled on the LAN interface. Make sure the PC is getting an IP address from the Linksys. I'm also going to assume that LAN address of the Linksys is 192.168.1.1. Does the PC pull a 192.168.1.x IP address from the Linksys? Run IPCONFIG /ALL in a CMD window. Does it show the Linksys as the default gateway? Is the DNS server information correct? Can you access the admin interface in the Linksys? If all this is correct, you should be able to get on the internet. If you still can't get on the internet, you will probably need to review some of the DD-WRT troubleshooting guides.

Keep in mind that once you have configured the first bridge, the switch ports on the Actiontec are no longer LAN ports and can't be used for access. The only connection to the switch ports on the Actiontec should be the cable to the WAN port of the Linksys.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:58:39 EDT

anon : I've been trying this process for the last 2 days with very little luck. At this point, I can't even get Internet, so I'm concentrating on that before moving on to the secondary bridge and the STBs.

I have FiosTV and Internet (connected to the ONT via coax). I have a Linksys WRT600N with DD-WRT that I want to use as my primary. I've successfully set up the first bridge as the Linksys gets a 173.70.x.x WAN IP (note: I can only get a WAN IP if I clone the AT's MAC to the Linksys).

This is as far as I get. The Linksys has had this WAN IP for an hour and some change, but I'm still not able to browse the Internet. I'll also note that if I restore the defaults to the AT and connect directly to it, it still takes some time for my connection to the Internet to function normally.

At this point, I'm seriously considering going CAT5 from the ONT to the Linksys, fishing from the second floor of my house up to the attic, then down 2 floors to the garage. I have an eager wife who's more than willing to help, so I'm sure it would get done, but I'd like to avoid that hassle since the first bridge appears to be set up correctly.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:16:48 EDT

anon : Working!

I had to call Verizon three times. The first customer rep refused to help me in any way. The second, half heartedly tried to release my dhcp and when that did not work I then asked them to switch my ont box to use ethernet. He told me it was "impossible" for him to do that. I immediately called back and spoke to a woman who helped me in every way possible, releasing the dhcp proved difficult so when I asked about ethernet she had me switched in 5 minutes.

The difference was immediately apparent. Internet speed is much faster, I gained 5mps. Opening up new pages no longer has any lag time or pauses. Also all tv guide and vod is working. I'm impressed.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:50:00 EDT

More Fiber : There have been one or two posts from people that wanted to bridge their Westell routers, but I'm not aware of anyone that has been successful using these instructions.

These instructions are specific to a coax connection between the router and the ONT. The posters I'm referring to ended up switching to an ethernet connection to the ONT.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:34:49 EDT

anon : Few questions I have a Westell and although the directions are similar they are not 100% the same so I am running into walls. Am I reading it wrong or do I still have to run CAT5 to my Verizon router? I keep reading it as if you have COAX from the OTN this guide will work. I also lost my original config that was put in by the tech. Is there an easy way to get it back? It had a few more network connections and other things I can't exactly remember. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:53:16 EDT

triplesec : I just used these directions to make a bridge between my Actiontec and Linksys WGT624 router and everything works perfect (VOD, Guide, Home Media DVR function), EXCEPT for Remote DVR. Hopefully someone will figure out how to make Remote DVR work with this setup. I've tried everything I could think of and nothing works for me. :(

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:19:50 EDT

JimmyM : OK I made the switch as described at the top of this page. I called Verizon to have them reprovision me. A tech was on the line, He was telling me that my VOD and guides wouldn't work. I had to tell him "trust me, I know what I'm doing.". I then had to call back and have them release the lease. shortly there after, I got an IP and everything works just fine.
I have the NIM100 on it's own interface on my firewall so I cam monitor traffic. With 2 SD VOD movies running and 5 concurrent downloads from Microsoft running, the STB network showed 8Mbps, while the internal network (for downloads) showed ~11 Mbps (I have the 10/2 package). CPU on the firewall showed only 11-17% usage.
Everything works great!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:22:12 EDT

anon : Great! That will be my option 2 if releasing the DHCP from the source doesn't work.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:15:12 EDT

JohnA :
That green cable is an adapter. It allows you to connect Cat5e without putting an end on it. The 4 tabs beside the cable lift up and accept pairs of wires, then get pushed back down to make the connections.

You can also just unplug the green cable and plug in Cat5e.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:18:26 EDT

anon : Thanks, I'll give that a shot....

but to answer previous post:

The apple extreme does not allow changing the mac address.

I've done a hard reset on the Actiontec a few times.

I was considering going with the ethernet solution but when I took a look at my ONT box it looked different then what has been described and the pics on the web. There is no obvious ethernet output, only one, and that is being used by a green cable. It is labeled Link/Mode. See pic.

Fios Ont Box

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:43:56 EDT

Trel :

said by pickle3d :

The airport extreme is complaining about no ip address. I did release the DHCP Lease and immediately selected No IP Address under Internet protocol within the Broadband Connection (Coax) settings.

I've followed the directions from page 1 of this post exactly several times over with no success. I'm pretty sure I've memorized the process by now.

Just releasing it didn't work for me.
I had to call verizon and ask them to break the lease.

Once you get to a person, I've never had them give me any issue. It's always "Oh, you need to break the lease, ok hold on...........ok done."
--
/chown -R us:us /yourbase

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:25:22 EDT

More Fiber : A few last resorts:

•Do a hard reset on the Actiontec to restore it to factory defaults.

•Clone the MAC address of the Actiontec coax WAN interface to the AE (if it supports that).

•Switch to an ethernet connection.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:03:38 EDT

anon : The airport extreme is complaining about no ip address. I did release the DHCP Lease and immediately selected No IP Address under Internet protocol within the Broadband Connection (Coax) settings.

I've followed the directions from page 1 of this post exactly several times over with no success. I'm pretty sure I've memorized the process by now.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:44:54 EDT

More Fiber : You haven't given a lot of information here.

Is the AE getting a WAN IP address? If not, then focus on getting the first bridge working.
There are in fact two separate bridges in these instructions.

Which router is complaining about "no valid ip address"?
I am assuming from your statement that the Actiontec is getting an IP address from the AE, that you are referring to the AE as not getting an IP address.

Did you release the WAN DHCP address on the Actiontec and set INTERNET PROTOCOL to "NO IP ADDRESS".
It sounds as if you did not release the WAN DHCP lease from the Actiontec before trying to make the AE your primary router.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:52:16 EDT

anon : has anyone been able to get this to work using an Apple Airport Extreme. I've spent hours and hours on this with no success. Now I'm not sure if the problem lies with the router which complains there is no valid ip address. The AT is picking up an ip from the AE, so that part seems to be working.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:28:30 EDT

DaDrgon : well my actiontec saga is finally over (I am the guy that started this all... I wrote the *original how-to*... my friend came over yesterday and we braved the cold running cat5 from the ONT to my wiring closet

so today, I called verizon and they switched me over to ethernet, NO hassles... the only part that was a pain was getting past their automated support crap

I'm also on 20/5 now (from 15/2) and without the actiontec, and going straight through my WRT54G v4, it's holy ****!!! just on the first try on speedtest.net!

the actiontec now rests peacefully in my "spare parts" pile in the server room.... I got NIM100s off ebay over a year ago (when they were still cheap), so I can use them whenever I get fiostv (I'll test them at my buddy's place to make sure they're good some time in the near future since he has fiostv)

it took me this long to get around to doing this because I've been so tied up with work.... I finally took some days off and I've been able to do this... I'm loving it so far! :D

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:25:30 EDT

anon : I've also had many issues with bridging and finally got clarification about 5 minutes ago. I'm going to wait it out and continue to use the Actiontec MI424wr RevD.
Called Actiontec, spoke with a tier 2 tech and he said a firmware update will be released in 2 weeks addressing the NAT table issues...as he also complained using bittorrent on it is spotty..so they have been working on a fix.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:08:06 EDT

anon : Thanks everyone for the guide, questions and answers! I just upgraded to the dir655 and was able to set it up along with the Actiontec. It is the first time in my networking history that everything worked perfectly out of the box without any hiccups what so ever. I was really stunned.

My question is (and I realize this may be for the Dlink section), is it possible to run the 655 full speed with WPA encryption for newer devices and connect my old 'g' router (DI-634M)to the network and run WEP for my older legacy wireless devices that don't have wpa?

Again, thanks for the actiontec advice. It would have taken me forever to figure it out on my own.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:59:34 EDT

JimmyM : Awesome. THANKS!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:34:13 EDT

More Fiber : Correct. That is the same configuration VZ originally used with D-Link routers before the Actiontec.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:25:48 EDT

JimmyM :

said by More Fiber :

Correct. The diagram is only the "data" side.

You can use a NIM-100 as a MOCA bridge for the STBs and eliminate the Actiontec, only if you have a cat 5 WAN connection and your own router. You can NOT use a NIM-100 as a WAN coax bridge. The NIM-100 does not support the coax WAN frequency.

OK. So the NIM100 Ethernet port would connect to a LAN port on my Router and the Coax side of the NIM100 would connect to one of the Coax Splitter ports.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:14:12 EDT

More Fiber :

said by JimmyM :

So the "diagram" in that article
Is actually only the "data" side of things.

Could I just replace the Actiontec with a single Motorola NIM100?

Correct. The diagram is only the "data" side.

You can use a NIM-100 as a MOCA bridge for the STBs and eliminate the Actiontec, only if you have a cat 5 WAN connection and your own router. You can NOT use a NIM-100 as a WAN coax bridge. The NIM-100 does not support the coax WAN frequency.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:01:03 EDT

JimmyM : More Fiber, Thanks for the clarification.
So the "diagram" in that article
"ONT -(cat5)-> your router -(cat5)-> Actiontec -(coax)-> STB"
Is actually only the "data" side of things.
The whole picture would be...
ONT -(coax)-> Splitter("input")
ONT -(cat5)-> your router -(cat5)-> Actiontec -(coax)-> Splitter("output")
Splitter("output")-(coax)->STB#1
Splitter("output")-(coax)->STB#2
Could I just replace the Actiontec with a single Motorola NIM100?
Thanks for the help.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:47:30 EDT

More Fiber :

said by JimmyM :

According to this link »Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Replacing the Actiontec (part 3): WAN-to-LAN keeps Guide and VOD (easier) ALL traffic, Internet and FiOS TV video, will be passing through the Cat5.

I don't believe that Part 3 of the FAQ stated anywhere that all video traffic passes over the cat5, because that certainly is not the case. All video traffic (except VOD) remains on the coax even if you switch your WAN connection to cat5. Video-on-Demand (VOD) is delivered over your WAN connection, but VZ bumps up your download speed.

You router will need to handle your combined speed tier (upload + download) plus another 5Mbps (SD) or 15Mbps (HD) if you don't want VOD impacting your throughput. e.g If you have the 20/5 tier, then a third party router needs to handle simultaneous throughput of at least 40Mbps at a minimum. According to reports, third party firmware such as DD-WRT and Tomato do not perform as well as OEM firmware. I would suggest derating the throughput by 20% if using third party firmware.

Here is a good resource for comparing throughput of routers:
»www.smallnetbuilder.com/componen···mid,189/

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:15:20 EDT

JimmyM :

said by More Fiber :

My only suggestion at this point is to switch to an ethernet connection to the ONT and relegate the Actiontec to handling only the STBs behind the D-Link. Instructions are in this FAQ:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Replacing the Actiontec (part 1): Coax to Ethernet

According to this link »Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Replacing the Actiontec (part 3): WAN-to-LAN keeps Guide and VOD (easier)
ALL traffic, Internet and FiOS TV video, will be passing through the Cat5. What kind of bandwidth requirements are there? 20MBps, 50MBps, More? How much traffic (speed) will my 3rd party router have to pass?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:31:08 EDT

More Fiber : Your Broadband Connection (Ethernet) port should be connected to a LAN port on your router. Check that you have a good cat5 cable between your router and the Actiontec ethernet WAN port.

•When you say it "disables itself", how are you determining that? By the main status page in the Actiontec?
•What does your router show for the status of the LAN port that the Actiontec is connected to?
•What is the status of the link lights at each end?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:10:40 EDT

anon : I need some HELP

I got all of it to work but the Broadband Connection (Ethernet) will disable its self after 5 min Any Ideas ?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:44:12 EDT

More Fiber : 1. You will need to set a static 192.168.1.x IP address on a PC and connect directly to a LAN port Actiontec.

2. UPS = Uninterrupible Power Supply, such as: »apcc.com/products/category.cfm?i···mentID=1

3. You can check your IPs from the STB/DVR front panel. Hit POWER (off) then SELECT. Scroll down with the UP/DOWN buttons to UPSTREAM MODEM and hit SELECT. When you want to get back to normal STB mode, hit POWER (turns box off) then POWER again and it'll come right back.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:15:11 EDT

anon : Thanks for the info More Fiber.

Stupid question on my part,

1. how do I access the AT router and get back to the Network Connections? I tried 192.168.1.1 and can't connect to the AT router anymore?

2. What is UPS?

3. Is there a way that I can check on the STB to see if it pulled an IP address?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:36:42 EDT

More Fiber : A couple of possibilities:

•Could you have had a power failure?

The Actiontec will "forget" about some of the bridging information in the event of a power failure. Go to Network Connections and make sure both bridges are set up as in the screen shot a few posts up. I recommend using an UPS for the Actiontec in this configuration.

•Did you change anything on your primary router? If so you may need to reboot (disconnect AC) the STBs in order to pull DHCP addresses from your router.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:04:57 EDT

anon : I got the bridge up and running, torrents no problem and VOD and Guide was working, but after a week, the VOD and guide stopped working. What can I do to repair this?

The internet portion is still fine, just no more VOD and Guide.

Thanks.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:32:14 EDT

GamerX : Well, I decided to call up Verizon today for the Coax to Ethernet switch. After about 15 minutes on hold, I got through to a Verizon rep who spent maybe about another 15 minutes talking to a FIOS tech and just like that I got it switched from Coax to Ethernet. After that I just followed the guide and I seem to have no longer have constant periodic internet crashes anymore. I guess it was something wrong with the Actiontec router, since I have not been disconnected yet. My advice to anyone having trouble with Coax, switch to Ethernet if you have an Ethernet/CAT5 cable that reaches. It's quick and pretty much effortless.

Well thanks everyone for their help, especially More Fiber :).

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:25:27 EDT

More Fiber :

said by GamerX :

On a off note, does switching over from Coax to Ethernet solve any NAT related problems?

Switching to ethernet will rule out the Actiontec as the cause of your problems since you will be connecting your router directly to the ONT. If you have FIOS-TV, then the Actiontec is connected behind your router for the STBs.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:21:31 EDT

GamerX : Well right now I'm not sure if it is the NAT table at fault or what. If what More Fiber said is true than something other than the NAT tables must be crashing my internet or I'm actually using 200 concurrent connections (which I also have to doubt). I've tried to mess with all sorts of things on my router configuration, but nothing seems to work. My internet has random constant crashes when playing a Steam game or when UTorrent is on and service usually comes back in a few minutes or so. I'm just going to call up Verizon in the next few days and have my internet switched over to Ethernet and see if that fixes anything.
On a off note, does switching over from Coax to Ethernet solve any NAT related problems?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:19:00 EDT

shuhead24 : Yeah it looks like the NAT issue happened again. Is anyone else having an issue with the NATs overflowing even when the AT is bridged?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:37:54 EDT

shuhead24 : I think I misunderstood what you were asking initially. Under the Broadband Connection (Coax) like Yubin stated, I have selected NO IP address.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:15:56 EDT

Trel : Oops, I fixed it.
For those wondering, in the last picture, I had to change the Network to "Boardband Connection" from the drop down.
--
/chown -R us:us /yourbase

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:13:33 EDT

Trel : I had to reset the actiontec to test something, and I can't seem to get it working right again.

I'm probably missing something, but here's what I have.

Any idea why I'm getting the problem it says in the first one?
--
/chown -R us:us /yourbase

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:25:37 EDT

More Fiber :

said by shuhead24 :

Should I change to no IP?

That what the instructions say.

5) Under DHCP Lease, select RELEASE, Then immediately after select No IP Address under Internet protocol.

Was that not clear?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:15:15 EDT

shuhead24 : The firewall is set to minimal. The IP Protocol was set to Obtain Automatically. Should I change to no IP?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:13:27 EDT

More Fiber : •Is the WAN bridge (Network H/O) Internet Protocol set to "NO IP ADDRESS?
•Is the firewall disabled?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:23:18 EDT

shuhead24 : Wondering what I did wrong. I bridged the AT (192.168.1.1) to a Linksys WRT300N (192.168.0.1) without issue and followed the guide. VOD, widgets, guides etc. all work. The only issue I seem to be having is with the internet. I still get NAT pool full errors on the Actiontec. What could I have done wrong? Everything works fine, the Linksys has a WAN IP (not an internal 192.168 address) but it seems to be using the NAT pool on the AT. Any ideas?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:41:03 EDT

More Fiber : Yes. Unplug the STBs. Do a hard reset on the Actiontec. Wait for it to settle down, then reconnect your STBs.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:47:12 EDT

anon : Got myself into a jam for some reason I followed all the steps and I am still not able to get the Cable Boxs working with internet and now the guide has finally run out as well. So the Mrs. is yelling at me because she can not record her shows, so my question is how do I now go back to the way it was working with the just Actiontec router.

If I reset the box and reboot the cable box should that get get me back to normal and the fastest.

Thanks

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:21:01 EDT

More Fiber :

said by GamerX :

Is there any possibility that my Actiontec router is still filling up it's NAT tables too fast even though it is bridged? I'm pretty sure it's the Actiontec router that is causing the problem, unless the DIR 825 also has small NAT tables

According to »www.smallnetbuilder.com/componen···mid,189/ the DIR-625 supports over 200 concurrent connections (200 is the limit of their testing software). It's possible you could be exceeding that, but unlikely.

As for the Actiontec, if you are bridged, then the NAT table in the Actiontec is bypassed. The D-Link should have your WAN IP address, therefore it is your primary (in fact, only) router. The Actiontec is acting ONLY as a bridge, passing packets between the MOCA WAN to the ethernet WAN port of your router.

My only suggestion at this point is to switch to an ethernet connection to the ONT and relegate the Actiontec to handling only the STBs behind the D-Link. Instructions are in this FAQ:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Replacing the Actiontec (part 1): Coax to Ethernet

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:11:25 EDT

GamerX : Well, I went out to my local Best Buy and picked up a new D-Link DIR 825. I was hoping the new router would fix the periodic internet crash, but still seems to be the same as my Linksys WRT54GS. Is there any possibility that my Actiontech router is still filling up it's NAT tables too fast even though it is bridged? I'm pretty sure it's the Actiontech router that is causing the problem, unless the DIR 825 also has small NAT tables :(.

Help would be appreciated.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:52:59 EDT

anon : I have 2 xbox 360s I want to connect at the same time using open NAT.

Will this config fix that problem ?

any one tried it ?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:53:40 EDT

ukhazard :

said by GamerX :

The Internet/Globe light shouldn't be amber. If the light is amber the internet will work, but your STBs will not be able to get widgets or VOD, well at least that's the case for me. The light is usually amber because your bridge is set up wrong, check to see if your Broadband Connection (Ethernet) is enabled on the Action Tech CP under (my networks>bridge connection). If it's disabled , then enable it and the internet/globe led should turn OFF, which means the bridge is working properly. Just to make sure, reset your STBs after and check to see if the widgets are working properly.
Hope this helps!

You were exactly correct sir. I didn't have Broadband Connection (ethernet) in the bridge; after I added it VOD and widgets began to work (along with the guide on my non-DVR STBs) immediately without restarting them.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:10:15 EDT

anon : Thanks for your help More Fiber. I got it to work. I took the following steps which I didn't do the first time.

1. unplug the STB before doing the bridge settings
2. reset my own router before doing the bridge settings
3. reset the AT router before doing the bridge settings
4. I had to move to a different Coax outlet (there are 3 in my house, I moved to the one closest to the ONT). Seems like the tech did some relay thing between the 3 coax outlets in my house and if I unplug the STB, the MoCa light on the ONT would turn red and I would lose Internet connection and the WAN Coax light at my original location.

Then I just followed the steps from the OP. Thanks Yubin!

The VOD and Guide wasn't working right away, but when I got up and checked in the morning, it was working fine.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:48:49 EDT

More Fiber :

said by cal01 :

Questions about step 8 to 12. Under the Bridge Section, the "Ethernet" option and the STP box on the right is checked. Do I leave this as is, or do I need to uncheck this?

In the Network (H/O) settings, STP should be checked for both Broadband(coax) and Ethernet.

said by cal01 :

15) Select Network Bridge -> Next -> Select Add a New bridge -> Next -> Check Broadband Ethernet and Coax. Uncheck Wireless. -> Click Next.

Step 15 is correct (your first option), although I can see why it could be confusing. You want your bridges configured as in the screen shot in my post above to prose111.

If you also read my note in that post about renaming the bridges, it might make it clearer. The purpose of step 15 is to create a bridge from the LAN side of your router using the ethernet WAN port on the Actiontec to the MOCA coax LAN for the STBs.

edit: With the WAP in the second bridge group, it can be enabled if you wish. Most users leave it disabled, since they prefer to use the wireless on their primary router.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:47:01 EDT

anon : 8) Select Home Network -> The select Settings.

9) Under Bridge Section, Check the Broadband Connection(Coax) box and Check the STP Box on the right as well.

10) Uncheck the Coax and Wireless Connections and associated STP boxes.

11) Disable the DHCP Server under IP Distribution.

12) Click Apply and Click Apply again.

>>>>>>> Questions about step 8 to 12. Under the Bridge Section, the "Ethernet" option and the STP box on the right is checked. Do I leave this as is, or do I need to uncheck this?

15) Select Network Bridge -> Next -> Select Add a New bridge -> Next -> Check Broadband Ethernet and Coax. Uncheck Wireless. -> Click Next.

>>>>> "Check Broadband Ethernet and Coax" = Broadband (Ethernet) + Coax options

or

"Check Broadband Ethernet and Coax" = Broadband (Ethernet) + Broadband (Coax) option?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:43:09 EDT

More Fiber : It seems like you are okay, up to the setup for the second bridge.
Your network connections should look like this:
[I'm on ethernet, so this is a paste-up.]

[att=1]

Keep in mind, the names of the bridges are misleading.
•The Network (H/O) bridge, is really your "Coax WAN to ethernet WAN Bridge".
•The Broadband Connection (Bridge) is really your "Ethernet LAN to MOCA LAN Bridge".
You can rename these in the respective bridge properties, if you wish.

Also, pay attention to whether you are changing properties at the bridge (group) level, or at the interface level (indented).

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:24:00 EDT

anon : OK I'm going to start all the steps over again and see if that helps. Can anyone post screen shots of what the Network Connections page within the Verizon router should look like to work correctly. I see screens from early posts but it seems they have at least one thing wrong with them. That would help me check my work. Thanks

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:01:21 EDT

More Fiber :

said by Prose111 :

last night I tried to watch something on VOD and it wouldn't work so I tried rebooting the cable box and now I no longer have the guide on that box.

Check the diagnostic menus on the STB to ensure that they are pulling a DHCP addresses from your router. If the STBs are not getting a DHCP address, they won't be able to get VOD or guide data.

If they are not getting a DHCP address, check the setup for the ethernet WAN to coax LAN bridge (usually labeled Broadband Connection (bridge)).

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:23:07 EDT

GamerX : The Internet/Globe light shouldn't be amber. If the light is amber the internet will work, but your STBs will not be able to get widgets or VOD, well at least that's the case for me. The light is usually amber because your bridge is set up wrong, check to see if your Broadband Connection (Ethernet) is enabled on the Action Tech CP under (my networks>bridge connection). If it's disabled , then enable it and the internet/globe led should turn OFF, which means the bridge is working properly. Just to make sure, reset your STBs after and check to see if the widgets are working properly.
Hope this helps!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:56:18 EDT

ukhazard :

said by cal01 :

4. Internet = off

Please correct me if the above is wrong. Now the first time I did the bridge, sometimes the Internet light will be off, other times it'll be amber. Anyone run into this issue?

I just worked through the OP (works perfectly, thanks!) and my Internet light is constant amber.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:14:04 EDT

anon : Thanks for your responses to me and through out the thread. Hopefully I'll be able to get it right this time.

Light Colors on the AT router should be as follows if bridged correctly?

1. power = green
2. WAN Ethernet (from your router) = green
3. WAN Coax = green
4. Internet = off
5. LAN ethernet 1 (to your own router) = green
6. Wireless = Off

Please correct me if the above is wrong. Now the first time I did the bridge, sometimes the Internet light will be off, other times it'll be amber. Anyone run into this issue?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:50:48 EDT

GamerX : Ah Thanks I guess it is the Linksys's NAT Table. Ah, I guess it's time to go buy a new router :). Thanks everyone for your help. Hopefully a new router will fix this.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:52:28 EDT

birdfeedr :

said by GamerX :

my Wan IP is 173.49 and so on, it does not start with a 72 or 96 and the DNS Servers start with a 71. Also, my Actiontech tells me in the CP that it's connected and the I.P. reads 192.168.1.7 and my LAN icon on windows tells me the IP 192.168.1.# is this fine?

The numbers look fine. 173 is a new network block VZ recently put in place.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:45:49 EDT

GamerX : Ah, I see, but I've never had any troubles with my Linksys WRT54GS and Steam in the past. Checked over the bridge and the instructions and I don't think anything is wrong. Also, from what I can tell, my Linksys CP tells me that my Wan IP is 173.49 and so on, it does not start with a 72 or 96 and the DNS Servers start with a 71. Also, my Actiontech tells me in the CP that it's connected and the I.P. reads 192.168.1.7 and my LAN icon on windows tells me the IP 192.168.1.# is this fine?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:06:22 EDT

anon : Please help, I followed all of the steps exactly in the first post and my internet using the linksys router is so much better.

However, last night I tried to watch something on VOD and it wouldn't work so I tried rebooting the cable box and now I no longer have the guide on that box. I really rather not have to switch back to the FIOS router can anyone point me in the direction to try and fix the cable boxes??? Thank you in advance.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:35:33 EDT

More Fiber :

said by cal01 :

Did you have to do anything else other than following the instructions and maybe a hard reset before setting up the bridge?

My only other thought is that you could be hitting the NAT table limit in the WRT54GS. Although »www.smallnetbuilder.com/componen···mid,189/ does not list the number of concurrent connections the GS will support, it would appear to be somewhere between the WRT54GL (64) and the WRT54GX (128), (assuming OEM firmware) which puts the GS in roughly the same range as the Actiontec at 96. For Steam and heavy P2P, I would recommend a router that supports at least 200 concurrent connections, such as the D-Link DIR-655.

edit:

said by GamerX :

Just to make sure, should my IP address provided by the DHCP be 192.168... or something along those lines? Also, is it fine for the Actiontec's home ip to be 192.168.0.#,my Linksys to be 192.168.1.#, and the bridge connection to be 192.168.2.#?

Not sure by "should my IP address provided by the DHCP be 192.168" if you were referring to the WAN IP address or the LAN IP address on your router. Your router should be be obtaining the VZ supplied WAN DHCP address (72.x.x.x, 96.x.x.x, etc). If your router is obtaining a WAN address of 192.168.x.x, then the bridge is not configured correctly.

The 192.168 addresses look okay for the Actiontec LAN side, Linksys LAN side and bridge.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:40:19 EDT

anon : Thanks More Fiber,

Did you have to do anything else other than following the instructions and maybe a hard reset before setting up the bridge?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:18:47 EDT

GamerX : Hi everyone, great informative guide, but I'm having some problems. I followed all the steps exactly and bridged my Actiontec with my Linksys WRT54GS correctly... I think. VOD and widgets seem to work fine on the STBs, the globe light on the Actiontec is off, but for some reason my internet will randomly stop working(Uusally when using Utorrent or playing a Steam-related game). Most of the time, the only way to restore internet is turn the power off on the Linksys WRT54GS and then turn it back on or sometimes disabling and renabling my LAN works too. I'm pretty sure the bridge is working since Steam seems retreive server lists without any stalls/problems, unlike before.

Just to make sure, should my IP address provided by the DHCP be 192.168... or something along those lines? Also, is it fine for the Actiontec's home ip to be 192.168.0.#,my Linksys to be 192.168.1.#, and the bridge connection to be 192.168.2.#?

Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:03:12 EDT

More Fiber : Do a hard reset on the Actiontec before trying the bridging instructions again.

I've seen other reports of problems getting the bridge to work and a hard reset did the trick. Seems the Actiontec was hanging on to some config information that only a hard reset would clear.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:25:42 EDT

anon : 75.something. It wasn't 192.168.*

I can give the bridge a try again, if that doesn't work, is switching from Coax to ethernet on the ONT my next option?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:27:06 EDT

More Fiber :

said by cal01 :

Got the bridge up and running, but using utorrent i still lose connection.

It shouldn't. It's possible you're not bridged correctly.

What is the WAN IP address of the D-Link (first 3 octets)?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:46:31 EDT

anon : Got the bridge up and running, but using utorrent i still lose connection.

I followed the steps of the OP. I have the actiontec MI424WR and the D-link DGL-4300. The bridge is up and running, I'm able to surf the web, do wireless connection through the dlink router.

However if I run utorrent, the connection on the actiontec router will still drop. The WAN Coax light will go off. I thought after I bridge the actiontec router I shouldn't have this problem. Anyone run into this problem? Any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:33:33 EDT

More Fiber :

said by barrmulio :

is there any way to re-enable the lan ports on the actiontec?

The short answer is NO.

When the Actiontec is bridged using these instructions, the "LAN" ports are no longer LAN ports. They are in fact a pass through of your coax WAN traffic, hence the term "bridge".

Buy an inexpensive switch ($30) for more ports.

You should not have had to rebuild the bridge when you flashed the WNDR3300, unless you also removed power from the Actiontec. This bridging configuration is known to "forget" the bridge during a power failure. If you're going to run this configuration, I recommend that you plug the Actiontec into an UPS.

The "long" answer to your question about using the LAN ports, is it may or may not be possible using the VLAN capability in the Actiontec. An early bridging configuration used a VLAN, but IIRC, some part of the VLAN functionality broke in the current firmware release.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:36:52 EDT

barrmulio : These directions worked great for me with a WNDR3300 - everything is working just fine. Had to power cycle the STBs, and when I flashed the WNDR3300 to dd-wrt I had to rebuild the bridge.

Now, is there any way to re-enable the lan ports on the actiontec? Since the router->actiontec took up one of the ports, I ended up w/o a port for one of my devices.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:02:47 EDT

anon : Figured it out!

Open Network Connections on the laptop and disable wireless network.
Go into Local Area Connection properties.
Select Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) properties.
Select 'use the following IP address':
192.168.1.12
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1

Connect the laptop to an unused port on the Actiontec with an Ethernet cable.

On the laptop, enable Local Area Connection from Network Connections.

Point browser to 192.168.1.1 and log in.

Enable the Broadband Ethernet connection part of the Ethernet/coax bridge (steps 20-24).

Go to step 29.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:57:26 EDT

anon : Worked like a charm!

Awesome!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:30:29 EDT

anon : Hi everyone. I used the original guide to set everything up and had it working perfectly this morning. As expected by Murphy's Law we had a brief power outage this afternoon and I now need to re-establish the ethernet bridge.
The bit I can't figure out from this thread is an idiot's step-by-step guide to reconnect to the AT without starting all over again from step 1.
Can someone with superhuman patience explain the process to me? I saw one post that said I should set my PC's IP to be on the same subnet as the AT but I don't know (a) where to find the AT's IP address, (b) how to change the PC's and (c) how exactly to connect the PC to it.
Thanks in advance...

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:31:41 EDT

More Fiber :

said by kilgil27 :

If I want to connect a computer over lan, not wifi, do I plug it into the actiontec router or my own router that im using. And how do I go about opening ports? would I log into the verizon router or mine?

If you're following the bridging instructions in this thread, your router becomes the only router. The Actiontec is functioning only as a bridge (in fact two):
•Coax WAN from ONT <--> ethernet WAN (your router)
•Ethernet LAN (your router) <--> MOCA LAN for STBs.

All PCs should be connected to your router.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:22:37 EDT

SparkChaser : just type in the IP address for the particular router.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:17:36 EDT

kilgil27 : I'm also really new at this, just have a couple more questions. If I want to connect a computer over lan, not wifi, do I plug it into the actiontec router or my own router that im using. And how do I go about opening ports? would I log into the verizon router or mine?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:13:26 EDT

kilgil27 : how do I log into my second router and not the actiontec one?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:43:20 EDT

gorbachev : So I tried replacing the firmware on my Linksys WRT54G router to see, if that helped with my connection problems. I actually have two of these routers, so it made things easier.

I have Tomato v1.21 that's working, apart from the weird connection problems after 18 - 36 hours of uptime. The firmware is on default settings as far as the network routing goes.

I installed DD-WRT v2.4 SP1, left the network routing setups on default settings. Something interesting is happening. The router is pulling an IP address from its own DHCP server.

I've got 192.168.1.150 - .155 reserved for the STBs, and the Tomato firmware correctly goes and pulls an external IP (98.116.104.xx currently). The DD-WRT firmware, however, pulls the first available IP between 192.168.1.150 - .155. It's not using the DHCP relay on the Actiontec.

Everything else is the same except the router firmware.

I suspect the issue has something to do with the way the DD-WRT sets up routing by default. Anyone have DD-WRT working with a Linksys router on this setup? Would you mind sharing your routing table info and the VLAN info?

I'll try and compare the two between Tomato and DD-WRT tomorrow as well. Getting a little late tonight already.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:21:37 EDT

More Fiber : Okay. Seems that the Actiontec is bridged correctly.

My only suggestion at this point is to switch to an ethernet connection to the ONT and take the Actiontec out of the picture (relegate it to a MOCA bridge behind the Linksys) per the FAQ here:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:24:30 EDT

gorbachev :

said by More Fiber :

Which router has your WAN IP address (98.116.36.x)?

•If this Actiontec has the WAN IP address, then the bridge is not configured correctly.

•If the Linksys has the WAN IP address, then the Actiontec is properly bridged (at least the coax to LAN part).

•Is wireless disabled in the Actiontec?

•Is DHCP server disabled in the Actiontec?

WAN IP on the Linksys.

Yes, to wireless and DHCP disabled on the Actiontec.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:56:14 EDT

More Fiber : Which router has your WAN IP address (98.116.36.x)?

•If this Actiontec has the WAN IP address, then the bridge is not configured correctly.

•If the Linksys has the WAN IP address, then the Actiontec is properly bridged (at least the coax to LAN part).

•Is wireless disabled in the Actiontec?

•Is DHCP server disabled in the Actiontec?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:43:40 EDT

gorbachev : I'm having some problems with this connection that suggests I either got it setup wrong, or that the setup really isn't bypassing the Actiontec the way they're supposed to.

I've got a Linksys WRT54G router with the latest Tomato firmware hooked up to the Actiontec. QOS is enabled on the Linksys (I've also tried it without QOS, doesn't make a difference). I'm using OpenDNS for my DNS.

I get flawless connection for about 18 - 36 hours after a complete Actiontec reboot. Then eventually, the connection to the outside world starts degrading to the point where roughly 75% of all DNS requests fail, because the OpenDNS servers are unreachable. The connection to the Linksys from all my networked devices is flawless, but any connection outside of my internal network is very spotty. The connection speeds are still the same (I've got 20/20), latency gets absolutely horrible.

To help me troubleshoot I've got pings going on to the Verizon gateway (currently 98.116.36.1) and when the connection starts getting spotty, those pings start seeing 50%+ packet loss. Pings to the external IP I was given by Verizon's DHCP servers is still going at 100% at this point.

I'm not entirely sure where the hell the problem is. I'm suspecting it's the Actiontec, but I suppose it could be anythin between my Linksys router, the Actiontec and the Verizon gateway.

Is anyone else seeing similar problems with this setup? I'm using p2p VERY heavily (Tomato currently reporting 602 active connections), and do online gaming 4-5 nights a week.

I just did a reboot of the Actiontec. No packet loss to OpenDNS servers, latency is excellent (10ms) and everything is working perfectly. Before the reboot I couldn't resolve a single hostname. What in the hell could make the net connection so bad? I've also noticed that if Verizon gives me a different gateway on a different network, if I renew the DHCP lease, I usually also get a better connection.

Any ideas anyone?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:03:04 EDT

anon : This bridging option seems best for me for getting VOD and also to bypass the small NAT table for gaming and P2P. The setup here seems straight forward but I'm not exactly sure if I should perform them with my second router wired and/or powered on, what congifurations are needed for my second router, should the STB's be disconnected and if any ip changes should be made for my PC.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:07:24 EDT

More Fiber : What problems are you having that you are attempting to bridge the Actiontec?

There are other simpler approaches to using your own router that might be appropriate to your situation. See this FAQ: »Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What are the tradeoffs between the various router configurations

If you still want to pursue this approach, there is a video walk-though here that should help with the basics:
»external.sidneysm.com/mocabridgedemo.mp4

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:21:22 EDT

anon : I am very new to this and I'm having a hard time understanding....I've tried over and over but cant figure this out....Are the STB's supposed to be unplugged? Am i supposed to go through all the steps with my 2nd router connected and powered up? Do i need to configure my computer to a fixed or certain setting for ip, subnet mask, gateway, etc? When setting up the bridge on the AT i cant seem to get the bridged broadband connection (ethernet) connected... It always show as "down"...

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:21:15 EDT

More Fiber : Just glad you got it working.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:20:15 EDT

legolas357 : fiber

it appears i was erroneous in my conviction that the coax LAN had never been enabled...
it's now obvious that at some point in the OP's instructions it does indeed become enabled and that at the point of my screenshot(s) i hadn't gotten to that point yet.
i apologize.

i just finished going through the entire setup again with the inclusion of your 'Broadband Connection Bridge' advice for the actiontec remote and everything is working just fine!
i have widgets,guide,VOD AND remote access to actiontec as well as maintaining my access to the dlink.
i'm terribly pleased.

and i can't possibly thank you enough for your ceaseless help. success would not have been possible had you not been willing.
though it's value is questionable, you have my gratitude.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:40:04 EDT

legolas357 : flying again, but able to test out tomorrow night once i return home...

in figure 3/4 i went back and took a screenie to show one of the areas i *could* put the static IP (i thought).
i'd forgotten to take a screenie the first time through. this is why the 'dhcp relay' and 'obtain dns server address automatically' (step 17,18) weren't set correctly. in any full attempt, they have been.

the Coax LAN has NEVER been set to 'enable'. perhaps this is the issue. i believe i'll be able to edit that, much the same as i do the Broadband Connection (Ethernet) in step 22. (though, yes...i DO have full widgets/VOD/guide without that being enabled)
also, i had/have never tried to input the static IP/subnet/gateway into the 'Broadband Connection Bridge' - another thing for me to try tomorrow.

yeah, remote setup as my step 30 (after setting firewall).

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:47:30 EDT

More Fiber : In Fig 1, under Network (H/O), Ethernet LAN and Broadband (coax) are correctly bridged.

However, under the Broadband Connection (Bridge), Coax LAN shows as not connected. This bridge enables your STBs to get to your primary router (via the ethernet WAN port) on the Actiontec. It's not clear why the Coax LAN is showing Not Connected. Your Network Connections should look like this.

In Fig. 2, you need to select Broadband Connection Bridge (i.e. the group item), not the ethernet interface underneath it in order to set the IP address of the Actiontec on your D-Link LAN.

In Fig. 3, the label "Network (H/O)" is now misleading. This group is no longer your local LAN. It is now your "Coax WAN to Ethernet (D-Link) Bridge". You might want to rename it by clicking the EDIT icon to the right of the group item, if that would make it more clear for you. Your Network (H/O) properties should look similar to this.

IP Address = 192.168.0.2 was used earlier as an example for the Actiontec on the D-Link subnet. Subnet mask should be 255.255.255.0.
[That was my fault. Sorry. I've edited previous post to correct]

In Fig. 4, your need to change the following settings:
•DNS Server = "Obtain Address Automatically".
•IP Address Distribution = "DHCP Relay"

I presume at this point, you have also enabled Remote Admin:

[att=1]

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:55:48 EDT

legolas357 : if i apply in home/office (from figure 4 above) i get figure 5.
figure 6 shows accepting all this.

at no time do i see anywhere to designate a gateway.
at no time do i seem to be able to input subnet '255.255.255.255' and have it accept it.

if i go through figure 6, restart my dlink, open a new browser and head to 192.168.0.2 i get nothing.

so where am i going wrong?

once again, sorry for taking your time (or anyone else's who has a suggestion) - but i'd really like to get this working. so if you're willing to supply advice, i'm willing to crawl around under my desk. :)

fig 5
fig 6

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:48:35 EDT

legolas357 : okay...
home and tried the advised settings.

figure 1 shows my setup through step 28 of OP with remote admin added.
figure 2 is my broadband connection (ethernet) with NO option to designate a static IP/subnet/gateway. (only the option to add a new IP at bottom).
figure 3 is my home/office showing an option for IP/subnet.
figure 4 shows changing 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.0.2 . if any attempt to change subnet to 255.255.255.255 is made, it returns a conflict message.
if i leave subnet as is (ending in '.0') i get figure 5 (next post)

fig 1
fig 2
fig 3
fig 4

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:11:29 EDT

legolas357 : thank you once again fiber.
i'll be home tomorrow night and will set it up.
looking forward to having it all functional!

your help has been immeasurable.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:40:18 EDT

More Fiber : To set a static IP address for the Actiontec ethernet WAN (connection to the D-Link):

•Go to MY NETWORK
•Network Connections
•Broadband Connection (ethernet)
•Settings
•Internet Protocol = USE THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS
•Enter static IP address assigned to the Actiontec on the D-Link LAN (192.168.0.2)
•Subnet mask = ~~255.255.255.255~~ 255.255.255.0
•Default Gateway = 192.168.0.1 (D-Link)
•Apply (again if needed)

Do this after you completed all the other steps.

edit: Corrected subnet mask.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:58:21 EDT

legolas357 : yes fiber,
i was using MAC filtering on the dlink. without disabling it, no connect for the 3 STB.

i see exactly where to make the settings for remote admin.
thank you.

i am however, not completely sure which place to input the addy 192.168.0.2 .
to me, there appear to be many options for this. in home network. in ethernet. in broadband ethernet.

i tried about 4-5 times to no avail. just not sure where to input this addy.
also, not sure if this option changes any of the other 1-29 steps (??).
i was just waiting to (try) input the instructions until after the final step (29). okay?

i'm close now. this is awesome.
thank you for your patience.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:02:44 EDT

More Fiber : I'm not quite following what you are saying about disabling MAC addresses on the D-Link. Were you using MAC address filtering, so that only predefined addresses were getting DHCP addresses? In any case, I'm glad you got it working.

As to your question:
For simplicity, the instructions use a DHCP address (from the D-Link) on the Actiontec ethernet WAN interface. However, there is no reason you can't set the Actiontec ethernet WAN interface to a static IP address on the D-Link subnet (e.g. 192.168.0.2). You will need to connect directly to the Actiontec LAN one last time to enable remote access.

•Click on the ADVANCED icon
•Select Remote Administration
•Check Using Primary HTTP Port (80)
•Click Apply

You should now be able to get to the Actiontec GUI from any PC connected to the D-LINK by entering the static IP address of the Actiontec ethernet WAN interface (192.168.0.2).

Remember to disable this setting if you put the Actiontec back as the primary router. Failure to do so will expose the Actiontec admin GUI to the web. The is no risk as long as the Actiontec remains in bridge mode, since the Actiontec's ethernet WAN interface is behind the D-Link's firewall.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:48:43 EDT

legolas357 : firstly, fiber, i'd like to thank you a ton for taking the time to help me.
i presently have VOD/widgets/guide/full network functional.

i'm nearly embarrassed to admit what the issue was - but i'm NOT a 'network' guy (or even 'computer' guy) by any means - just an online gamer.
it's obvious that everything was set up correctly each of the times i ran through the instructions, but i'd never disabled MAC addresses from my dlink router (from previous comcast setup)...so the VOD etc. weren't functional, yet i had full computer network functions (of course! already MAC'ed in). eish.

i plan on purchasing a UPS in the near future.

this leaves me with (i hope) a simple question/resolution.
with the current setup, once it's complete, i no longer have access to the actiontec interface page - i assume the 192.168.1.1 addy changes - so how do i go about setting it up/adding it so that i don't have to go through a hard actiontec reset just to access the info (power outage and re-establish bridge, etc.)?

thank you again!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:08:16 EDT

More Fiber : Up to 14 days of guide data is stored in the STB. However, if the STB can't get to the internet, the guide data won't update.

Unplugging the STB for 60 seconds is adequate. You won't lose recorded material that stored on the hard disk. You only need the STB to pull a new IP address. Turning it STB off using the power button won't do that.

Creating the second bridge is at step 15.

Is the D-Link pulling a WAN IP address (71.x.x.x, 72.x.x.x, etc)? If it is getting a local LAN IP address (192.168.1.x) from the Actiontec, your WAN coax to ethernet LAN bridge is not set up correctly in the Actiontec (steps 1-14).

Is the Actiontec ethernet WAN interface getting a DHCP address from the D-Link (192.168.0.x)? If not, either the D-Link LAN or the Actiontec ethernet WAN is not set up correctly (steps 15-24).

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:31:51 EDT

legolas357 : yes, have cable running from dlink WAN to LAN1 on actiontec as well as cable from Actiontec WAN to dlink LAN1.

now that you've pointed out the guide feature, perhaps something else is the glitch - or just needs time - as i DO have the guide (and it functions), just not VOD and widgets.

i left the STP boxes (3 of them) unplugged for about 90-120 seconds. should they have been unplugged longer? they all show any/all recorded material.

i followed the instructions exactly, steps 1-29. if the setting up of the 'second bridge' is past of that instruction group, yes, it was followed.
if it's not, perhaps thats my problem.

thanks fiber. this is sooo appreciated.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:13:56 EDT

More Fiber :

said by legolas357 :

One computer plugged directly into your Actiontec ethernet port 2

The reference to the one computer plugged into the LAN2 port is temporary and only so you can access the configuration interface of the Actiontec. It is NOT meant as a general purpose LAN port (for your desktop).

Have you run a cable from a LAN port on the DLINK to the ethernet WAN port on the Actiontec and configured the second bridge? This is the key element in getting VOD working. While you might be willing to forgo VOD, you probably don't want to give up guide data which requires the same path.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:59:17 EDT

legolas357 : hi again fiber.
yes i have indeed read many,many instructions, threads, sites and read each of the options you pointed to...

i'm sorry to be an idiot - this is what i read from the original post -

"Coax -> Actiontec -> Actiontec:Ethernet connection1:RJ45 -> 2ND Router Internet Port(WAN Connection)-> 2ND Router:Ethernet port 1:RJ45 -> Actiontec:WAN (Internet)ethernet port.(Sounds redundant but your second router is the new DHCP and the actiontec uses that dhcp to give itself an internal ip and provide internet for your STB's

One computer plugged directly into your actiontect ethernet port 2 "

i am obviously incorrect in my thought that 'ethernet port 2' is also lan port2 on the actiontect, thus plugging into my (only) hardwired desktop - but then, is not each WAN connected to each other's lan port1 (described in OP)???

i'm sorry i'm so confused now.

i had/have actually followed the instructions EXACTLY 2 times, so have no idea now what is to connect to my hardwired desktop.
guess i may just leave it connected to my lan2 from my dlink as i may not ever purchase a VOD...

thank you for trying to help me. i just must be reading it incorrectly.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:13:54 EDT

More Fiber : When I asked about issues other than Super-G, I was trying to ask about issues other than wireless in general. Sorry for the confusion. The Actiontec is well known for having a weak wireless section.

The instructions in this thread are NOT meant to allow use of the LAN ports on the Actiontec, other than to provide a WAN connection for your router. The instructions place the Actiontec into bridge mode. i.e. IT IS NO LONGER ACTING AS A ROUTER. It is only forwarding packets between your coax WAN connection to the ONT and the WAN connection of your router.

Did you read the FAQ link I posted above?
You have several choices outlines in that document.

My recommendation to you is option #1 in the FAQ.
Place your router behind the Actiontec.
•Do a hard reset on on the Actiontec
•Verify you have internet connectivity on the Actiontec.
•Run a cat5 cable from a LAN port on the Actiontec to the WAN port of the D-Link.
•Disable wireless on the Actiontec.
You're done. NO DHCP addresses to release. Works "out of the box".

If you still want to follow the instructions in this thread (option #4 in the FAQ) and bridge the Actiontec, then:
•Start over
•Follow the instructions EXACTLY
•Do not make changes.
•Do not skip steps
The instructions work when followed.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:28:11 EDT

legolas357 : hi Fiber.
thanks for the help. :)

yes, i did see a larger issue with wireless that wasn't really super G related. i'm a big online gamer and wireless was suffering incredible latency using the actiontec...so i attempted to put the actiontec in bridge mode and use my dlink for the faster speed and no-issue gaming.

like i said, everything on the wireless side worked perfectly...but the connect from lan2 (on the actiontec) to the computer would not allow internet browsing.

pulling the cat5 cable from the actiontec lan2 (leaving other end in the computer) and putting the cat5 into lan2 on the dlink made all computers internet functional - but no VOD/widgets.

i'd obviously like to get this option worked out as it supports both my (dlink) faster network speed as well as better online gaming performance.

all dlink addys seem to be in the 192.168.0.xxx range.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:55:27 EDT

More Fiber : Do you have any other issues with the Actiontec besides the Super G wireless?

If not, just put your DI-624 behind the Actiontec. You will need to make sure the DI-624 is configured to pull a WAN DHCP address (which will be a 192.168.1.x address from the Actiontec) and that LAN side of the DI-624 is a different subnet from the Actiontec (e.g. 192.168.0.x).

There are several different possible router configurations.
You can find a list of trade-offs here:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What are the tradeoffs between the various router configurations

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:33:00 EDT

legolas357 : greetings.
and thanks for any/all help.
i also apologize beforehand for being a n00b/moron.
actiontec DCHP. coax.
i have a dlink di624 i'm attempting to use as i prefer my super G speed and the wireless just seems to work a lot better than the actiontec.
i followed the instructions from the OP and ran into a couple issues. following the instructions completely asks for me to connect from actiontec ether port2 to desktop.
if i do this, i have wireless internet from both my lappy and second desktop - but NO internet from my wired desktop.
if i remove the cat5 from lan2 on actiontec and put in lan2 on dlink, i have complete networking and internet from all computers.
however, in this setup i do not have VOD and widgets.
and in no configuration do i seem to be able to look at BOTH the dlink AND actiontec config pages.
any help is greatly appreciated, and thanks for your time.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:18:43 EDT

More Fiber : Are you on DHCP or PPPOE?

If you're on PPPOE, transfer your PPPOE settings to your other (new primary) router.

If you're on DHCP, release the DHCP address of the Actiontec. Immediately disconnect the WAN cable to the Actiontec so it does not reacquire a DHCP lease. Move the WAN cable to your other router and reboot that router so that it attempts to obtain a DHCP lease on boot up.

If you still can not pull a DHCP address, write down the ethernet WAN MAC address of the Actiontec; power off the Actiontec for at least 2 hours. Clone the Actiontec ethernet WAN MAC address into your new router; connect the WAN cable to your new router, then reboot it and see if it pulls a WAN IP address.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:35:37 EDT

mastaputa : Ok, I found a Netgear router at my house (RP614v2) and hooked that up and it cant pull a WAN IP either...so either I have a setting wrong on both 3rd party routers or I have something set up on the Actiontec wrong. Please help!! Thanks.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:46:02 EDT

mastaputa : I tried that and it didnt work. I had restored it to factory defaults through the web interface already. From that point the only thing I changed is the LAN subnet so there isnt a conflict w/ 192.168.1.1 from the actiontec. WAN is set to DHCP. Where WAN is set to DHCP, there is an option to enable or disable STP, i've tried both and neither works. Any other ideas guys?? Thanks.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:42:11 EDT

More Fiber : Sounds like a configuration issue on the Linksys.
Try a hard reset on the Linksys (with nothing connected to it) and see if it pulls a WAN IP address.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:56:18 EDT

mastaputa : Ok guys need some help here. I followed the directions and everything seems to have worked except my 3rd party router (linksys wrt54g w/ dd-wrt) just doesnt take a WAN Ip. I made sure to release it on the actiontec and even called verizon to have them release my dhcp lease. Like i said everything else is working, such as the STB's having an IP in the linksys subnet, and all local hosts/routers being able to talk. Right now I don't even care about VOD or Widgets. And here is probably the weirdest part. I plug a linux box into my linksys router w/ DHCP enable and I get a WAN IP on that box and obv have inet access and all. I plug a Windows box into another port on the same linksys router using DHCP as well and I get an IP on the local LAN w/ no Inet access. Any ideas??? Let me know if you have any other questions on my settings. Thanks in advance.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:35:20 EDT

anon : Ignore my previous post. Everything's working flawlessly! :D

Thank you all!!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:31:46 EDT

anon :

said by Trel :

Make sure you have the bridge IP on a different set than your router, so if your reouter assigns in 192.168.1.x, make the bride 192.168.2.x

Oh sweet, that worked! Thanks!

One question though...I normally set static IPs for my workstations in the TCP/IP properties with the gateway and preferred DNS as the IP of the router.

I just tried to do it and I wasn't getting any connection. Is this not possible anymore?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:44:35 EDT

mach_six : Before I attempt this again, last time I tried this I was able to get my DLink and Airlink to grab the external IP but however nothing was able to browse the Internet. I thought perhaps it was the router that's why I tried it with another one. It's been a long time since I last did that and then I switched everything back.

If someone knows what I did wrong or forget to do by my description it would be helpful when I try it again.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:14:43 EDT

AARGH : Wanted to thank OP for this, as I picked up a D-Link Xtreme N router and followed instructions and BAM! no more NAT issues with my two 360's, both listed as OPEN.

THANKS!!!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:04:42 EDT

Trel :

said by six :

I just had my FiOS installed this weekend. I carefully followed the instructions on the OP and although I successfully managed to make my AT a bridge, my VOD/Guide isn't working.

I did it a couple times, making sure I didn't miss a step but still no go.

Any pointers on what I should check why my STB is not pulling an IP?

TIA.

Make sure you have the bridge IP on a different set than your router, so if your reouter assigns in 192.168.1.x, make the bride 192.168.2.x

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:03:07 EDT

anon : I just had my FiOS installed this weekend. I carefully followed the instructions on the OP and although I successfully managed to make my AT a bridge, my VOD/Guide isn't working.

I did it a couple times, making sure I didn't miss a step but still no go.

Any pointers on what I should check why my STB is not pulling an IP?

TIA.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:24:51 EDT

devicemanage : Thanks bro, everything started working this morning. I guess it needed some time to download the guide? Who knows but I am happy!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:59:59 EDT

devicemanage : Here is an update...

All boxes pulled my 192.168.100.X ip however they cant get to widgets nor vod, guide data on the standard boxes not working, the hd dvr hd like 10 days of guide.

Sounds like it may be a dns issue? What do you guys think?
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Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:28:11 EDT

More Fiber :

said by devicemanage :

It seems to have named it "broadband connection (bridge)". In there I have

obtain ip address automatically
obtain dns server address automatically
DHCP relay

If your bridge is set up properly, your Network Connections page should should have an entry that looks like this:

• When you click on Broadband Connection (Bridge), you should see the Broadband Connection (Bridge) Properties page.

•Click on SETTINGS. You should now see Configure Broadband Connection (Bridge).

There are 3 lines of interest.

•About 6 lines down is a line labeled Internet Protocol. This is for the connection to your router. You should select either Obtain Address Automatically, or specify a static IP address from your router's subnet.

•Near the bottom is a line labeled DNS Server. This should be set to Obtain DNS Server Address Automatically (or you can specify explicit DNS server addresses).

•Just below that is a line labeled IP Address Distribution. This is where you need to enable DHCP server for the STBs on the MOCA LAN.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:59:15 EDT

devicemanage : It seems to have named it "broadband connection (bridge)". In there I have

obtain ip address automatically
obtain dns server address automatically
dhcp relay

is this correct?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:25:56 EDT

More Fiber :

said by devicemanage :

can someone tell me which interface to look to for the stb dhcp stuff - thanks...

At step 15 of yubin 's instructions, you created a new bridge:

15) Select Network Bridge -> Next -> Select Add a New bridge -> Next -> Check Broadband Ethernet and Coax. Uncheck Wireless. -> Click Next.

I don't know what you named the new bridge, but that is where you want to enable the DHCP server for the MOCA LAN.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:07:40 EDT

devicemanage : First want to that everyone for the information - this is what makes this site so awesome.

I do have a problem though... I can not get my boxes to grab an address - where would I look to make sure dhcp is configured properly. From what I understand they should be pulling from my LAN which is 192.168.100.x but I have seen some of the boxes remain on the 192.168.1.x 1 pulled a 192.168.2.1.

Here is something interesting about calling verizon about the dhcp release - you do not have to call them. While I was on hold with 30 minutes to go, I decided to reset the actiontec and begin to congifure it for bridge mode - sure enough it cleared itself and I hung up.

Either way, can someone tell me which interface to look to for the stb dhcp stuff - thanks...
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Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:49:10 EDT

More Fiber :

said by el3ment000 :

Moving forward, I will monitor the Actiontec in the even of a power outage, and manually re-configure the bridge if the internet light blinks on again.

Put the Actiontec on an UPS and forget about it (unless you have a power failure longer than the run time of the UPS).

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:41:44 EDT

el3ment000 : Thanks More Fiber,

Yet again, you have helped me fix another issue. :-) Yeah, apparently the bridge was down on the actiontec. There must have been a power outage that I was unaware of. I should have looked at my bridge settings before posting here..

Moving forward, I will monitor the actiontec in the even of a power outage, and manually re-configure the bridge if the internet light blinks on again..

-element000

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:47:57 EDT

More Fiber :

said by el3ment000 :

just recently, my DVR is deciding NOT to grab an IP, or not even bring the Menu Guide up.. But I'm still getting picture and sound.. But I'm thinking that there's something wrong with the DVR.

Probably not your DVR. VOD and guide data are delivered over your internet connection, so if the STBs are not getting an IP address, no guide or VOD. Audio and video do not go through the router.

•Do you have any other STBs?
If so, are they getting IP addresses?

•Could you have had a momentary power failure?
The bridging configuration is subject to losing the WAN to MOCA bridging information in the event of a power failure.
See this post earlier in the thread:
»Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D
Check that your Broadband Ethernet to MOCA LAN bridge (step 15 of yubin 's original post) is still configured in the Actiontec.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:19:07 EDT

el3ment000 : Hey Guys,

This configuration has been running solid for the last week or so. However, just recently, my DVR is deciding NOT to grab an IP, or not even bring the Menu Guide up.. But i'm still getting picture and sound.. But i'm thinking that there's something wrong with the DVR. I've power cycled it many times, along with the routers.. But still no go.

If I call Verizon, they will tell me to to un-bridge my router and restore it to defaults.. Do you think my DVR just went south?

-el3ment

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:46:36 EDT

More Fiber :

said by deminicus :

well setup is complete, ... and (knock on wood) it all works!!

Glad to hear you got it installed the way you want, and everything is working the way you want.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:36:09 EDT

deminicus : well setup is complete, they ran cat5e. The tech was really cool and hooked me up well. I setup the action tech behind my router and (knock on wood) it all works!!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:21:18 EDT

More Fiber : I can't confirm positively that it will work, but after reviewing yubin 's instructions, it looks like it might work.

As for sharing between DVRs and STBs, that's not a problem, since they all reside on the MOCA LAN which is a single subnet.

The DVRs and STBs use non-routable IP addresses for media sharing. This is why any PCs running MediaManager software must be on the same (non-routed) subnet. Problems arise when PC's are attached to a secondary router which creates a different subnet.

However, yubin 's instructions specify DHCP relay for the Actiontec WAN to MOCA LAN bridge. This allows the STBs connected to the Actiontec and PCs attached to the user router to share the the same subnet.

Give it a try. If you have problems, post back and we'll try and help.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:21:34 EDT

deminicus : can anyone confirm if this will work with the mediashare dvr and being able to use it to stream to other STBs. I know if you run cat5 there is a FAQ that addresses this but I did not find anything the explicitly states that it will work with this method.

Getting Fios installed in 1 day. So I am hoping for some good news here in case the cat5 request gets denied by the tech.

Thanks

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:10:44 EDT

anon : Jeez, relax. So many anal retentive people on forums. I didn't give any indications because I didn't realize I'm supposed to state everything when I post a thought/question to clarify my intend. I don't frequent boards like this till I've gotten the FiOS service. I searched using a different term "dd-wrt replacement." What question gets asked several times a week? I never asked anything about replacing the Actiontec. I didn't give indication of price or requirement because I'm not in a hurry and still messing around. If the question's too generic to give a meaningful answer, why answer? I'll give you that it was off-topic, so maybe I missed that somewhere in the rules (truth be told, didn't read it).

Honestly, thanx for the feedbacks, and I'm glad the original poster posted this as a new topic for us just starting to venture into FiOS setups. I'm just saying, every new forum people go to, they will be new themselves, and every forum, there are always people that's just anal and "seem" unfriendly to the new kids on the block. Besides, most people use tech forums as a place to get info, and if they feel comfortable, they stick around. Reading back in the earlier posts to this thread, people were friendly and helpful, that's all.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:54:03 EDT

More Fiber :

said by LaZyPhOoL :

I hate going to forums and there's always someone telling someone else to search. ... I searched in the Verizon Fiber Optics, and not many results. ... so good to know that people favor the DIR-655.

Some of the reasons you got the response you did:

•You didn't give any indication in your earlier posts that you had bothered to search. I did a quick search on "recommend router" and got 137 hits. Some are not relevant, but I certainly would not call that "not many results".

•This question gets asked several times a week. There are several posts in the topic list (below yours) related to replacing the Actiontec:
»Actiontech Router: Good or bad
»A one-to-one replacement for the Actiontec
»Alternatives to the actiontec
»Any routers have DNS server built-in (like Actiontec)
You didn't give any indication you had read any of those.

•You didn't give any indication of your requirements or price range.

•Your question was so generic as to be impossible to give a meaningful answer. If you want a more meaningful answer, give detailed requirements.

• Asking for router recommendations is Off-Topic for this thread.

To get a sense of how different routers perform, go here:
»www.smallnetbuilder.com/componen···mid,189/

BTW, don't always believe the recommendations you get:
»Re: [new technologies] Modifying MI424WR Source?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:09:36 EDT

grimholtz :

said by LaZyPhOoL :

Thanx, good to know. I hate going to forums and there's always someone telling someone else to search.

you mean like More Fiber told you to do? :)

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:04:21 EDT

anon : Thanx, good to know. I hate going to forums and there's always someone telling someone else to search. Always assuming the person in question doesn't ask. I searched in the Verizon Fiber Optics, and not many results. Currently, I switched out my DD-WRT v23 sp1 router for my Netgear WGR614. So I'm getting the 20/5 speed now. Just noticing though that the wireless connections are slightly bizarre, but again, that's the router, so good to know that people favor the DIR-655. Thanx!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:58:57 EDT

grimholtz :

said by LaZyPhOoL :

anyone knows good routers that'll be a bit better in performance? Thanx.

The current favorite in these forums is D-Link DIR-655.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:51:02 EDT

anon : Hi guys,
Wow I just ready threw this entire thread post by post. I just got my FiOS installed (TV, internet, phone).

I tried all day yesterday to get my setup working. Just with internet as I'm not concern with VOD/guides at the moment.

Coax->Actiontec
Actiontec LAN1->Netgear WAN
Netgear LAN1->PC

On my pc, I go to »192.168.1.1 and access the netgear router config. It tells me I have a dynamic ip and will setup and test my connection. Fine. It goes to update the netgear router and BAM! "Page cannot be displayed".

After reading this entire thread, I think the essential bit that I missed is of course at the end--about changing Actiontec router subnet. Looks like both the Actiontec and Netgear wants the 192.168.1.x subnet.

I'm going to try to change my Actiontec to 192.168.3 and see what happens. Unfortunately I'll be out of town on vacation for a couple weeks and won't be able to try it until I get back.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:34:34 EDT

More Fiber :

said by LaZyPhOoL :

anyone knows good routers that'll be a bit better in performance?

There are lots of threads on here about router recommendations. Search is your friend.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:58:11 EDT

anon : Well, i got my SlingBox working. Turns out that it only takes IPs in the 192.168.1.x range, so I just changed it around. Though, I'm still capped at 1.5down and 2 up. So the question remains, anyone knows good routers that'll be a bit better in performance? Thanx.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:06:23 EDT

el3ment000 : BINGO!!!!!

I had my network cables configured improperly, and I forgot one vital step in the documentation... Glad I went back through it...

The IP address scheme I have listed above works perfectly for me.

Thanks so much for this!!!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:51:23 EDT

el3ment000 : Hi there,

I set this up correctly tonight, and I am getting connectivity through my Linksys WRT54GS. However, i cannot access VOD. After reading gorbachev's post about conflicting network addresses.. I believe I'm at the part where the internet works perfectly, but I cannot access my VOD.. I set my addresses as followed:

On my actiontec:
- Network (Home/Office) (Connected) - 192.168.3.1
- Broadband Connection (Bridge) (Up) - 192.168.2.1

On my Linksys:
- My Linksys has a default of 192.168.1.1

Do I need to change my linksys to 192.168.1.2 just like in gorbachev's post above?

-el3ment

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:38:47 EDT

anon : Thanx Yubin for the guide, everything that's supposed to work the way it is, works.

For all the other people that possibly can help, I do have two small problems on my hands right now. One, I had a slingbox connected to one of the stb, but now it stopped working. This has to do more with my WRT54GL router than anything else I imagine though. The other, my original up/down speed was 20/5...now it's closer to 1.5/2 Is this also due to my router? If it is, which router do you guys suggest to get to maximize the speed?

Current setting for the dd-wrt router is 192.168.2.1 and it starts the ips at 192.168.2.150

Thanx.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:18:15 EDT

gorbachev : Well, thank God for those networking classes at school 20 years ago :) I managed to fix the problem.

Turns out the Linksys IP address can not be in the same network range (in my case 192.168.1.x) as the Home/Office network on the Actiontec.

So I changed the IPs around (Home/Office -> 192.168.3.1 and the new bridge -> 192.168.2.1) and I now have Internet and VOD both working with an Actiontec router set up as a bridge.

Many thanks Yubin! Couldn't have done it without your help.

You might want to amend your instructions with the information about the network ranges though...for someone with no networking knowledge, it's gonna be a showstopper.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:03:33 EDT

gorbachev : I'm having problems getting this to work.

I've got an ActionTec Rev D router connected to the ONT with coax. I've got a Linksys WRT54G router running Tomato on front of it. Linksys has an IP address of 192.168.1.2.

Internet works perfectly. STBs aren't getting IP addresses.

On the ActionTec my connections are as follows:

Network (Home/Office) (Connected) - 192.168.1.1
- Ethernet (Connected)
- Broadband Connection (Coax) (Connected)

Wireless Access Point (Disabled)

WAN PPPOE (Disabled)
WAN PPPOE 2 (Disabled)

Broadband Connection (Bridge) (Up) ???? - 192.168.2.1
- Broadband Connection (Ethernet) (Connected)
- Coax (Connected)

Everything else is just as Yubin describes. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

My Linksys is reporting this to the DHCP requests from the Actiontec:

Aug 17 17:00:09 unknown daemon.info dnsmasq[111]: DHCPDECLINE(br0) 192.168.1.153 04:22:b6:74:18:fd Rejecting offered IP address due to conflicts with existing connections

Um, ok. I suspect this is why it's not working, but I have no clue as to why it's happening or how to get it fixed.

Anyone?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:28:36 EDT

dick white : well, the amber internet light on mine does not turn green, but rather is off when the bridge is working properly.

dw

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:23:26 EDT

anon : Excellent and thanks for the info. I seem to recaall that the amber light was supposed to be green.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:10:47 EDT

dick white : Sorry, dstathop, but you still need to reenable the bridge. The yellow light beside the world globe icon means internet access for the ActionTec router is farkled. You are still getting internet service to your PC through your own router, but the TVs are not getting to the internet because the bridge though the ActionTec to your router is broken. You can test this by turning on a TV and observing that the show information in the pop-up box is unavailable and VOD won't work. When you reenable the bridge, that yellow light will turn off. You don't have to go through Yubin's entire setup again, just re-enable the bridge.

dw

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:07:31 EDT

anon : Curious thing happened to me today. I had to rewire the outlet that the Actiontec was plugged into, so I fully expected to have to re-enable the bridge business. The curious thing is that the bridge is still working even after the power cycle. Is this just dumb good luck, because everything I read told me I would have to re-enble the bridge?

I bridged the actiontec according to Yubrin's instructions. The only question is that I couldn't remember what the lights should look like.

This is what the front of Actiontec looks like. I just want to make sure everything is ok, before my ADD kicks in and I have to reset the modem:

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:10:10 EDT

Trel :

said by NeOnRaBbIt :

THANKS!! Took a while but finally got it working.. Only had to make an extra modification because my router ip was conflicting with the actiontek bridge ip but its all good now.

Yeah, I think it was mentioned somewhere. Mine didn't work until I change the IP to not be in the same network as the real router.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:41:28 EDT

anon : THANKS!! Took a while but finally got it working.. Only had to make an extra modification because my router ip was conflicting with the actiontek bridge ip but its all good now.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:50:40 EDT

Trel :

said by dstathop :

I just wanted to say that Yubin's instructions worked perfectly with my set up. I followed Yubin's instruction's exactly, this includes the wiring of the various ethernet porst on the Actiontec and my DIR-655. For the record I am using a DIR-655 router along with a 4 power gigaswitch. I am using the coax (the MoCA) link from the OTN.

The only question I have is the power failure question. I read that if you cycle the power on the Actiontec that you have to re-enable the bridge. Now, do I have to start over again from step one if I have a power failure or do I do step 20, to enable the link. I assume that in order to re-enable I have to be hooked directly into one of the ethernet ports on the back of the Actiontec?

You gotta hook directly to it, change your IP so you're on it's network, and then go to it's IP.

The only thing that happens is that one of the interfaces gets disabled. Everything's still setup, but you just gotta re-enable it.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:24:03 EDT

anon : I just wanted to say that Yubin's instructions worked perfectly with my set up. I followed Yubin's instruction's exactly, this includes the wiring of the various ethernet porst on the Actiontec and my DIR-655. For the record I am using a DIR-655 router along with a 4 power gigaswitch. I am using the coax (the MoCA) link from the OTN.

The only question I have is the power failure question. I read that if you cycle the power on the Actiontec that you have to re-enable the bridge. Now, do I have to start over again from step one if I have a power failure or do I do step 20, to enable the link. I assume that in order to re-enable I have to be hooked directly into one of the ethernet ports on the back of the Actiontec?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:10:44 EDT

EMC2 : The tech will connect a coax run from the ONT to your existing tv coax wiring. That will provide the video feed (broadcast programming) to your TVs. The video feed portion will work with or without a router.

In your case, the AT takes the guide/vod data stream from the cat5 and overlays that data onto the coax. It then shoots that info out of it's coax jumper into the household coax network so the TVs can get the guide, etc.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:32:43 EDT

RolteC :

said by More Fiber :

said by RolteC :

Do I have to use coax from the ONT to the Actiontec router first? Or can I just only use cat5e from the ONT and still achieve TV service? Thanks!

You definitely will want to keep your WAN connection on cat5 for the Cisco.

For the FIOS TV install, VZ will want to connect the the Actiontec as the primary router. The installer will run a piece of coax from the splitter to the Actiontec. This will prove the MOCA LAN connection for the STBs.

Since you already have your WAN connection on cat5, he will probably leave it provisioned on cat5, although he will probably move it to the Actiontec to make the Actiontec the primary router.

After he leaves, following the instruction in the following FAQ to make the Cisco your primary router and place the Actiontec behind it:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Replacing the Actiontec (part 3): WAN-to-LAN keeps Guide and VOD (easier)

You also might find this post (not the whole thread) useful:
»Re: How-to: make ActionTec MI424-WR a network bridge

Whoa, thank you for the links. The first one proved most useful! Answered most of my questions.

My only other question is, now that it goes from ONT(cat5e)->cisco->actiontec(coax out)->STB's , does it mean that all tv traffic will travel from the ONT out the cat5e or will the coax still have to be used one way or another in this situation? If the coax doesn't need to be used, then does the TV traffic coming through the network limit the internet portion of bandwidth?

Thanks!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:12:34 EDT

More Fiber :

said by RolteC :

Do I have to use coax from the ONT to the Actiontec router first? Or can I just only use cat5e from the ONT and still achieve TV service? Thanks!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:44:17 EDT

RolteC : I keep reading everyones posts but Im still lost.

I currently have a cat5e running from the ONT to my cisco router.

In two weeks, I will have TV service installed.

How will I get VOD and widgets/guide working?

Do I have to use coax fromm the ONT to the actiontec router first? Or can I just only use cat5e from the ont and still achieve TV service? Thanks!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:38:31 EDT

Trel :

said by More Fiber :

said by Trel :

Is there any way to make it so you don't have to re-enabled the LAN interface if it loses power?

So I guess you never switched to cat5? »What's the normal charge for verizon to come and run cat5?

A few ideas:
•Switch to ethernet WAN and run your own router. No worries about losing the bridging configuration.

•Do you have the Actiontec on a UPS? Only helps if the power outage is less than the run time of the UPS.

•Have you tried the VLAN bridge to LAN port #1 instructions.
»ActionTec MI424-WR Bridge - Updated Instructions + VOD
I've not tried this, so I can't promise that your configuration will be preserved after a power fail. Some posters had problems with this bricking their routers when VZ pushed the 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7 firmware update. A hard reset was required.

-I do plan to switching to cat5, but I don't know when that'll be possible, and if I can afford to do it (especially since nobody was able to give me an estimate of what they'd charge)

-As far as the UPS, I can't afford that at the moment

-And I haven't tried that last thing, but I don't want to risk bricking it.
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Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:00:11 EDT

More Fiber :

said by Trel :

Is there any way to make it so you don't have to re-enabled the LAN interface if it loses power?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:46:22 EDT

Trel : Is there any way to make it so you don't have to re-enabled the LAN interface if it loses power?
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Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:20:00 EDT

More Fiber :

said by ciucca :

Does this work with Actiontec Hardware Version A?

Yes.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:12:41 EDT

ciucca : Does this work with Actiontec Hardware Version A?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:55:56 EDT

ajm216 : Worked like a charm

Thanks!!!!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:04:02 EDT

More Fiber :

said by leepoffaith :

the actiontek just wont take the internet from my personal router and I can't figure out why.

A full set of instructions for getting the Actiontec running behind your router is here:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Replacing the Actiontec (part 3): WAN-to-LAN keeps Guide and VOD (easier)

A couple of things to check:

Q: How is the Actiontec set to obtain a WAN IP address?

Is the Actiontec set to obtain a WAN IP address automatically? Assuming you set your router's IP address to 192.168.0.1, the Actiontec should pull a WAN IP address from your primary router on the 192.168.0.x subnet.

I recommend setting the Actiontec to a static IP address on the 192.168.0.x subnet. If you turn remote admin on, you will be able to access the Actiontec user interface from anywhere on your LAN (but not from outside), otherwise you will need to set a PC to a static IP address on the 192.168.1.x subnet and connect it directly to the Actiontec if you want to access the user interface.

Q: Is DHCP server enabled in the Actiontec?
Q: What is the LAN IP address of the Actiontec?

Your STB's need to obtain IP addresses from the Actiontec. The LAN IP address of the Actiontec should be 192.168.1.1 (default).

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:15:54 EDT

anon : Hey Guys! First off let me thank everyone for all the help on this thread. I was getting soo mad at Verizon for telling me this wasn't possible I almost got rid of it. Then I found this board and I'm almost 100% set, but I am getting stuck at one place.

My first question is, I have the cat 5 going to my personal router, then lan out to the wan in of the actiontek, but the actiontek will not turn green on the internet to save my life. Do I have the set any special specs in the actiontek for this to work? I'm turned it on and off several times, but still nothing. My personal router is going great with super fast internet, but the actiontek just wont take the internet from my personal router and I can't figure out why. Any help would really be appreciated. Thanks!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:53:15 EDT

bcrigler : Tryed 3 times with no success. Changed it back to no bridge temporarily until I can figure it out. Since the actiontec and the router both have 192.168.1.1. Obviously one has to be changed to avoid network confusion. I have been changing the linksys to 192.168.1.10. VOD, Guide, etc do not work like this. I then tryed to change my actiontec to 192.168.0.1 and my router back to 192.168.1.1 and then I could not access the AT anymore. I tryed .0.1 and .1.1?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:19:40 EDT

bcrigler : thanks birdfeedr! :) I will try again...

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:39:19 EDT

birdfeedr : The other poster was using a previous version firmware and had saved a specific configuration, which when loaded into the current firmware did not produce the results he expected. So the fix for that person was to reload the older firmware, then to load the config.

The problems he was dealing with had to do with static IPs or some such as I recall.

Your problem is different. You should work with the current firmware (which is probably already loaded). Don't worry about your config until after you get your bridging completed. There is a fundamental flaw in your setup. If you can't spot it, your best course may be to go back top factory defaults and start again.

Rough sequence of steps I would use to get your bridge complete:

1. Power off everything, including remove power from STBs and DVRs. Reset both routers to default settings.

2. Set up bridge with Actiontec and your replacement router. Verify internet connectivity at your router.

3. Not sure at this point how to verify internet connectivity at the Actiontec WAN, unless it's to see that the AT WAN does pull an IP from your router.

4. Power up one STB. Verify connectivity with Widgets, Guide and/or VOD.

5. Repeat step 4 for each remaining coax LAN device.

If at any point where I said to verify and you're not getting what you expect, don't proceed, because that's where your problem is.

I'd give you more if I was able to, but I cannot bridge because my 611 ONT is not MoCA-capable.
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Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:11:28 EDT

bcrigler : So does that mean to reload the saved configuration file from before reseting to factory defaults? Thats what I took from that... The above post was from someone else on another thread.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:09:36 EDT

bcrigler : "If you noticed, or at least I did when the tech was on my computer - he ran some scripts off of an usb flash drive. These scripts first wrote some configuration to the router, and then updated it to the latest firmware. This means the configuration written on your updated firmware was made for an older firmware (why some of you got an error trying to load it after restoring factory defaults). I took a text compare program and compared the configuration you save first vs. the configuration you save after your router has been reset to factory defaults & they are VERY different, but the router still can load it (but won’t if you try when the firmware is updated and reset back to it's new way of handling config files). You can go to Advanced on the top of your screen once logged into the MI424-WR, downgrade the firmware, and load the configuration file (usually called 'Wireless') then update back to the latest firmware if you choose to do so. Long process for no reason, but this was the only way I got it to work. Anyways…"

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:32:12 EDT

bcrigler : thanks... :uhh:

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:31:27 EDT

More Fiber : Logon to the router and check.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:25:54 EDT

bcrigler : 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7 is what I was running before reseting to factory defaults. My question is in general when reseting to factory defaults does that roll back the driver version?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:24:06 EDT

bcrigler : Sorry... :huh:

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:20:56 EDT

More Fiber : You might wait longer than 20 minutes to bump a thread.
You think folks are just sitting around waiting for you to post here?

Since you didn't post what level of firmware is now running, how are we suppoed to determine if if was reset or not?

The current version is: 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:17:09 EDT

bcrigler : bump... Please Help!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:50:33 EDT

bcrigler : I did... I rebooted all of them. My standard boxes don't have the guide either? But my HD DVR STB does? I am guessing the HD DVR STB already has maybe the guide for two weeks downloaded to its hard drive.

Before I reset the AT to setup the bridge between my AT and my Linksys WRT54G V8 I had the latest and greatest firmware for the AT. By reseting to factory defaults does that downgrade my firmware? This is my only thought into why I am not getting any VOD, Guides, and Widgets. Any ideas?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:00:37 EDT

dick white : did you reboot the STBs (unplug them and plug them back in)? They need to draw a new inside IP address from the linksys before the widgets work again.

dw

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:39:47 EDT

bcrigler : hmmm... followed the directions verbatim... The bridge works great but still no VOD or Widgets?? I am using a Linksys Wrt54g v8

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:41:35 EDT

jvanbrecht : This method did not work for me.

I accidentally murdered my config last night (had it bridged for about a year now)... don't make changes when your really really really tired, and then cannot figure what you changed to break things in the first place.

So I tried the method above, no go (I even futzed with the mac addresses on my obsd router and the AT).. I ended up going back to the old and tried method of vlan'ing the coax/eth1 port and that works just peachy.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:58:46 EDT

More Fiber : Instructions for switching to an ethernet WAN connection are here:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »How do I replace my MoCA-connected Actiontec router and still get VOD

I'm skeptical about Overcomplicated's first post implying that you can just call the FSC and have them send out a NIM. If you read his reply to my post he said he got his NIM from an on-site tech. A few posters here have reported being given a NIM by an on-site tech that had one in their truck, but I've never seen a post here about anyone getting one shipped to them by the FSC. Most have gotten theirs on Ebay.

In any case, if you follow the instructions in the FAQ linked above, you will end up using the internal MOCA bridge of the Actiontec to the same effect as a NIM.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:25:26 EDT

BostonGirl : I have a D-Link Dir-655 and I could not get this to work for the life of me.
I tried other guides before and couldn't get those to work either. I am on my 4th Actiontec, not because I bricked them but because I had problems with every one of them. I was going to have them install the old D-link with the NIM, but choose to try the Rev D Actiontec instead. I am kicking myself now. I had the guy here and he was going to do it, but said this Rev D would be great. :uhh:

So here I am stuck on the Actiontec, and frustrated. Would it just be easier for me to run a Cat5 (my ONT is in my basement and not far from the router, and there's already the hole) to the ONT and call them and have them switch me to ethernet and get a NIM?

I wish this guide worked for me, but I tried everything it said and couldn't even get the internet working. The VOD and guides didn't work either.

Thanks for the guide anyways.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:45:30 EDT

VulturEMaN2 : Alright I did all of that and it works fine :)

The ethernet plug on the ONT popped off though LOL i had to fit it back on :P

I picked up my DIR-625 (their base Wireless-N router with 2 antennas) for like 40$ a few months ago when CompUSA closed out.

I then won a DWA-140 (D-Link's Wireless N Rangebooster USB adapter) and I can say the following:

PLEASE SWITCH FROM G TO N GUYS!!!!!!!!

N is amazing for gaming and everything else...ping is 1ms slower in CS:S than with a cat6 cable. I honestly could care less if its draft...I threw it on channel 5 and my LAN speeds are amazing for file transfer....its like there's a cable there. And I'm going from a basement to a 2nd floor desktop through plaster walls and a concrete floor.

Plus, atleast for the time being, n is a bit more secure due to the lack of people that have N tech :P

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:55:34 EDT

More Fiber : Follow the instructions here:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »How do I replace my MoCA-connected Actiontec router and still get VOD
I suggest you start at the top and verify that on Actiontec main status page that it shows an ethernet connection. The FAQ instructions cover switching out the Actiontec for both coax and cat5 installations.

And yes, your diagram is correct. The coax connection is for the LAN connection to the STBs.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:34:21 EDT

VulturEMaN2 : Ok. I followed everything in the steps.

I have a DIR-625, and I'm not sure what rev i have of the AT router, but since I just got fios tv I'd assume the newest one.

Because I previously had fios internet, it seems the guy left my internet coming from the ONT over ethernet...

So....I've read a billion guides, but if I'm not mistaken this one is for people that have it coming over coax? What should i be doing?
ONT -(cat5)-> DIR-625 -(cat5)-> Actiontec -(coax)-> splitter
^is that right?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:37:32 EDT

anon : Yeah, I thought that was kinda obvious about the cat5 since I said ethernet cable. However, I'm actually running a cat6 myself. So you can use either type.

As for free NIMs, yeah, if you find a tech that actually knows what he's doing and talking about, just say the word and presto, free NIM. He hand delivered mine from his truck and says they're still in production. Anyone who says otherwise is bullshitting you and too lazy to help.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:19:42 EDT

More Fiber :

said by Overcomplicated :

I've tried this exacted and it failed, plus, if you're using wireless, you'll still suffer at the hands of the actiontec's bad NAT tables and more. Which ultimately means in the end, your equipment will still go through it and you'll still experience the problems you had before. If you want to truly end the nightmares do this...

I have a few issues with your post.

If you followed the the instructions exactly as you say you did, you would have disabled the wireless in the Actiontec (steps 25 & 26 of yubin 's instructions). One of the reasons for running your own router is to use a better wireless router.

Again, if you had correctly bridged the Actiontec, you would be bypassing the NAT table.

You left out the part about having to run a cat5 cable to the ONT. Perhaps you thought that was obvious, however, for some posters here, running cat5 is not a viable option.

You imply that VZ is now handing out free NIM-100's to anyone who asks for one. Most posters here that have gone the NIM-100 route, have had to purchase them on Ebay.

There is a more through set of instructions for switching from a coax to ethernet connections posted in the FAQs:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »How do I replace my MoCA-connected Actiontec router and still get VOD

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:25:28 EDT

anon : I've tried this exacted and it failed, plus, if you're using wireless, you'll still suffer at the hands of the actiontec's bad NAT tables and more. Which ultimately means in the end, your equipment will still go through it and you'll still experience the problems you had before. If you want to truly end the nightmares do this...

1.) Remove the actiontec entirely - destroy it if you wish, it will no longer be needed.

2.) Call Verizon FIOS tech support, get an "NT" to break the DHCP lease.

3.) Request to have your ONT box switched from MoCA to Ethernet. The less experienced employees will warn you that you'll lose VOD and the menus and guides... here's where step 4 comes in.

4.) Ask to receive a part called a NIM (Network Interface Module) from Motorola. This device will give you VOD and Channel Guide. It was used in the early days of FIOS when Verizon issued D-Link ethernet only routers.

5.) Upon confirmation of the DHCP break and the switch to Ethernet (you don't need the NIM immediately), with the power off, hook up your router of choice with ethernet cable running directly from ONT to your router of choice's WAN port. NOTE: If you turn on the router prior to hookup, it won't put an IP until you cold boot (unplug power cord and replug in) the router.

6.) Upon pulling an IP from the ONT, you'll have fully functional internet. Continue reading to get the FIOS VOD and Channel Guide back up and running.

-----Optional if you want VOD Working----

7.) When you receive the NIM from Verizon, hook it up to any LAN port on your router.

8.) Run a coaxial cable from the "Cable In" port (ignore cable out) towards (NOT IN) the ONT.

9.) Add a splitter (or get a bigger splitter) to where the coax cable is coming out of the ONT and add the line coming from the NIM to the outputs going to the set-top boxes.

10.) Power cycle all set-top boxes to pull info from there on from the NIM.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 17 Jun 2008 04:47:04 EDT

SilkRod : Please disregard my previous post. I contacted VZ via the Direct Forum (www.dslreports.com/forum/vzdirect) and they stated that if I ran the ethernet cable from the ONT to my router location, they would gladly switch me over from Coax to Ethernet at no charge. However, if I'd prefer them to do it, I could contact sales for the charge of them (VZ) running the ethernet.

That was easy.

I'll be running the ethernet cable this weekend.

SilkRod

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:50:58 EDT

SilkRod :

said by dick white :

Silk,
In your case, with internet only, you could simply get rid of the VZ ActionTec router and use your own better router IF your connection was installed using an ethernet connection between the ONT and the ActionTec router. Just substitute your router.

However, if your install was done using coax (TV-style cable with F-type screw-in connector, not an ethernet cable with an RJ-45 plug-in connector), which is the typical VZ installation, you will need to call VZ and get them to switch your provisioning to ethernet. In the meantime, you could use your own router on top of the ActionTec by following any of the threads about setting the ActionTec to bridge or using an IP range in your router other than 192.168.1.X (as that is the default range already used by the ActionTec). This would leave you with a superfluous network layer required only because your basic provisioning is coax, but that would be needed only until they reset you to ethernet.

dw

DW,

Thank you very much for the explanation of the acronyms.

Do you think VZ would be willing to switch me over from Coax to Ethernet? Wouldn't that require them to come out and run an ethernet cable from the ONT to my router? Also, if they do, ......you mean I can get rid of the ActionTec completely and just use my router? What about a modem????

Now assuming they will not switch me over, then where do I start in bridging the ActionTec? Looks like this thread has been going on for a while. So many updates and changes, I don't know where to start. Although, since I don't have to worry about STB, VOD, & Guide, it should be pretty simple.....Right?

Someone please tell me what to do.

SilkRod

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:37:56 EDT

dick white : silk, welcome to the zoo. First, the acronyms:

ONT - optical network terminal - the white box where the fiber comes into your house.

STB - set top box - TV channel boxes, not your problem.

VOD - video on demand - TV pay per view and some free content, again, not your problem.

Guide, also called IMG - interactive media guide - a TV feature that you can pull up an on-screen channel and show guide to see what's on, again, not your problem.

In your case, with internet only, you could simply get rid of the VZ ActionTec router and use your own better router IF your connection was installed using an ethernet connection between the ONT and the ActionTec router. Just substitute your router.

However, if your install was done using coax (TV-style cable with F-type screw-in connector, not an ethernet cable with an RJ-45 plug-in connector), which is the typical VZ installation, you will need to call VZ and get them to switch your provisioning to ethernet. In the meantime, you could use your own router on top of the ActionTec by following any of the threads about setting the ActionTec to bridge or using an IP range in your router other than 192.168.1.X (as that is the default range already used by the ActionTec). This would leave you with a superfluous network layer required only because your basic provisioning is coax, but that would be needed only until they reset you to ethernet.

dw

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:05:04 EDT

SparkChaser : Moved

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:38:48 EDT

SilkRod : Hello Everyone.

I am very new to Verizon Fios and I would like to use my D-Link 655 Router as my primary router and just use the Actiontec Modem/Router as a Modem only. My reasons are my D-Link router is a Gigabit Router and Wireless-N. It also gives me the capability to reserve IPs for certain equipment in my network.

FYI, the following are the equipment I will be using:

Verizon's Actiontec Modem/Router Rev D (Coax Input)
D-Link D655 Gigabit/Wireless-N Router
HP MediaSmart Server EX-470 (Windows Home Server)
Multiple Desktop/Laptop Computers
Slingbox Pro
Roku HD1000 Video Extender
D-Link Web Camera
Two Vonage Adapters (Two different Vonage Accounts/Numbers)

Now with all that said, what do I need to do? I have read through this thread just enough to be totally confused. You all use a lot of accronyms I am not familiar with, for example: What does ONT, STB, VOD, and Guide mean? I only have FIOS Internet, no TV, and no Telephone.

It looks like this thread has been going on for quite some time. Lots of information buried over time. Where do I start and what is the latest and greatest way to achieve my goal?

Thanks in advance,

SilkRod

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 26 May 2008 11:57:23 EDT

anon :

said by anon3 :

After spending hours setting routers to every possible configuration I could find online, I called verizon (*gasp*). I am under the impression that they are not trained to help you bridge routers, but I spoke to a very knowledgeable tech who wanted to try anyway. It turns out that it is really simple.

1) Plug the ethernet cable from the wall into the uplink on your third party router
2) run a cable from any of the enet outs to the WAN on the verizon router.
3) call verizon to release the hold they have on the routers (it takes 5 min)
4) power cycle the verizon router to pick up the new IP
5) plug everything into your new router
6) wow it works!

you DON'T have to change any settings like all the walkthroughs say, just leave them, they aren't hurting anyone. The only thing you might want to do is disable the WAP part of the verizon router just so you don't have a duplicate wireless network. you'll have to plug directly into the verizon router to do this.

This sounds like if you have ethernet set up and not COAX?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 25 May 2008 13:48:20 EDT

anon : After spending hours setting routers to every possible configuration I could find online, I called verizon (*gasp*). I am under the impression that they are not trained to help you bridge routers, but I spoke to a very knowledgeable tech who wanted to try anyway. It turns out that it is really simple.

1) Plug the ethernet cable from the wall into the uplink on your third party router
2) run a cable from any of the enet outs to the WAN on the verizon router.
3) call verizon to release the hold they have on the routers (it takes 5 min)
4) power cycle the verizon router to pick up the new IP
5) plug everything into your new router
6) wow it works!

you DON'T have to change any settings like all the walkthroughs say, just leave them, they aren't hurting anyone. The only thing you might want to do is disable the WAP part of the verizon router just so you don't have a duplicate wireless network. you'll have to plug directly into the verizon router to do this.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 22 May 2008 15:58:43 EDT

Fear Agent : I'm experiencing issues similar to what BKJ and cookymonsta were having earlier:

1) On the ActionTec, under BB Connection (Bridge) > Coax is 'Down'
2) My D-Link DGL-4300 (Router with intergrated 4 port switch) cannot update dhcp from Verizon.

I'm not sure why my router cannot obtain a new dhcp address. Would I have to call up Verizon and have them reset my ip?

I know I'm really close to getting this to work but I'm just one or two settings off.

Any help would be appreciated :)

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 22 May 2008 01:15:53 EDT

BKJ : In reply to:
One follow-up question:
When you say "you have to re-enable the broadband ethernet connection," are you saying one needs to connect and login to the AT, and use the web interface to manually re-enable the Broadband Ethernet connection whenever power is cycled on the AT? If so, that may explain why I've had some intermittent success (eg, things worked fine, until I had to move furniture around and unplug everything) - and unless I missed such a warning earlier in the thread, this might be a deal-breaker for those of us who sometimes leave a household behind who are incapable of doing such a task. I've got all networking gear on a UPS, but still...

Yes, that is the case. Any power outage will require you to reconnect to the actiontec through the web interface to re-enable the Broadband Ethernet connection.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 21 May 2008 10:56:28 EDT

More Fiber :

said by SimplySailingFrom what I've read you don't have to call Verizon to have them release the IP. you can release it with the Actiontec [/BQUOTE :

Not true if you are MAC bound by VZ. See this post:
»Re: Just moved, got my FIOS (on ethernet), have questions ...

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 21 May 2008 10:07:03 EDT

anon :

said by More Fiber :

said by SimplySailing :

I cannot pull an IP address either. Is there some step missing from the original guide? I try and try and try to renew the IP address and nothing comes over. I'm using a Linksys with DD-WRT

Have you called the the FSC and asked them to break the lease?

From what I've read you dont have to call Verizon to have them release the IP. you can release it with the actiontec

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 20 May 2008 20:40:49 EDT

More Fiber : AFIK Verizon has never publicly acknowledged the small NAT table size in the Actiontec. There are posts in this forum that state that it is intentional on VZ's part to limit P2P bandwidth. If true, it's really only a thumb in the dike, since it is easy enough to replace the Actiontec with a more capable router that can support far more concurrent connections.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 20 May 2008 20:35:09 EDT

More Fiber :

Have you called the the FSC and asked them to break the lease?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 20 May 2008 17:59:33 EDT

anon : I cannot pull an IP address either. Is there some step missing from the original guide? I try and try and try to renew the IP address and nothing comes over. I'm using a Linksys with DD-WRT

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 20 May 2008 05:20:55 EDT

DSquare : Just needed to say thanks for these instructions. Had FiOS installed yesterday and within the first few hours I was dropping my connection at least twice an hour. I hooked up my WRT54GS and haven't dropped a my connection since.
Can they fix the problems with the actiontec if they wanted to by firmware or is it by design to have such a small NAT table?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 19 May 2008 01:44:28 EDT

Trel :

said by yubin :

Power cycling the actiontec just means you have to re-enable the broadband ethernet connection. The rest should come right back up.

Can you give more info on that?
I'm going to have to make a physical connection to the actiontec each time I powercycle it or it loses power?
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Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 19 May 2008 00:50:26 EDT

anon : Thanks for the quick response, Yubin. Indeed, everything has been working great since redoing the config. Good to hear there aren't any strange IP addressing requirements, that QoS (specifically as it relates to VoD) shouldn't be affected by this config, etc.

Agreed on the dual DHCP thing - I think that must've happened when the AT wasn't fully reset to defaults, and things got messy when I went through the OP steps. Hasn't been a problem since.

One follow-up question:
When you say "you have to re-enable the broadband ethernet connection," are you saying one needs to connect and login to the AT, and use the web interface to manually re-enable the Broadband Ethernet connection whenever power is cycled on the AT? If so, that may explain why I've had some intermittent success (eg, things worked fine, until I had to move furniture around and unplug everything) - and unless I missed such a warning earlier in the thread, this might be a deal-breaker for those of us who sometimes leave a household behind who are incapable of doing such a task. I've got all networking gear on a UPS, but still...

-Joe

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 16 May 2008 13:08:31 EDT

yubin : smomer. there is no need to clone any MAC addresses. Everything is done via IP addresses.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 16 May 2008 12:54:00 EDT

yubin : prettymuchlost

try changing the ip address range to 192.168.10.1

That should fix it.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 16 May 2008 12:52:38 EDT

yubin : Agent cooper. Your internal IP address range will cause conflicts as the default Coax IP is 192.168.2.1 It's not used directly by default but will cause issues.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 16 May 2008 12:49:30 EDT

yubin : GoJoe here are some of the answers I can give.

STB's have no IP address requirements, just need to all be on the same range.

Power cycling the actiontec just means you have to re-enable the broadband ethernet connection. The rest should come right back up.

It doesn't matter which router port is used when connecting it to the AT WAN port.

Lights I have on and color:

There is not limitaions for your LAN IP scheme. It's completely up to you.

The various IPs that are assigned to your Bridge should reflect your LAN. There will be an extra IP for the COAX connectio itself, and that should be 192.168.2.1. It's there but useless ad doesn't need to be changed.

Limiting bandwidth? Absolutely not. I run a gaming server using this setup and I have yet to even see any bandwidth loss or even limitations. My connection is 30Mg Down and 15Mg up. I have 30Mg down and 16Mg up for my latest speed test and that was with 32 people connected to my server. This also has not effected my VOD in any way.

As for your new devices picking up a different IP address? Sounds like you have 2 dhcp services running.

Hope this helps a little.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 13 May 2008 17:08:21 EDT

Trel : I finally got this mostly working. While the guide now works, I still cannot seem to get Widgets working.

I haven't tried VOD yet, but the help option doesn't work either.
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Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 13 May 2008 13:29:47 EDT

anon : I followed all the directions on the first post.
My problem now is that while the STBs ARE pulling an IP, in this case 192.168.1.122 (which IS definitly being pulled from my "real" router), they are not getting the guide info, VOD, or Widgets.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 13 May 2008 03:04:21 EDT

anon : I'm a latecomer to this thread as I just got FiOS service at my new residence. The OP has been a lifesaver (THANKS YUBIN!), but as mentioned a few posts up, there are now a number of derivatives/additions in subsequent posts to the OP, and I have a feeling the info I need is in there somewhere to make things work perfectly for my situation, I'm just not sure what applies.

I'm currently utilizing ONLY what Yubin suggested, and things have been working *okay* (VOD works, and I have internet for all connected computers, albeit after some finagling with each newly added computer/device) for the past 3 days. Well, they did until just now. I had to powercycle everything because I'm still moving stuff around, and no matter how many times I cycle power I can't get VOD to come back... However, I'd love to see some consolidated, 'universal' instructions (and information) regarding IP addressing and options/limitations.

For instance:
- How to make things work without having an external IP assigned to one's 3rd party WAN (VLANs, etc), and what are the pros/cons of such a setup (no VOD, more complication and configuration, etc)?
- What (if any) are the ACTUAL IP addressing requirements of the STBs (a tech once told me they HAVE to get 192.168.1.x addresses in order for VOD to work, and a few posts echoed this statement, but that same tech also sort of went back on that statement, and it sounds like others have been able to get things to work with other LAN address ranges, and if I haven't had some inconsistent results, I'd say there shouldn't be any issues...)
- When power cycling, what's the best order to turn things back on (the AT/3rd party router loop makes things a little more complicated in this area); and how does power cycling the AT/router/both affect the STBs - (as mentioned, I've lost VOD a few times after cycling power on my AT/router, requiring restarting my STBs, and sometimes requiring reloading the AT config)
- Using Yubin's setup, does it really matter which router LAN port is connected to the AT's WAN port (Yubin suggests #1)? In other how-to guides, there's usually a bunch of port/VLAN management, but these instructions don't worry about any of that - so I'm just making sure there isn't anything else I should be configuring
- What lights should be on/flashing on the ONT (specifically, I'm concerned because the 'Video' light is off, but I assume that's NOT the coax video feed, rather another sort of video feed I'm not using)
- Additionally (and hinted to above,) is there a limitation to IP address ranges one can set for their LAN (eg,192.168.2.x, 192.168.0.x, 192.168.10.x, 10.0.1.x) and if so, what are the rules/gotchas governing such ranges
- And probably most importantly, what are the best practice regarding IP assignment to various connections on the AT and one's 3rd party router? (I've seen a LOT of back and forth on this, in the spirit of "hey, try this!" and "hey, that didn't work, but this worked for him, so try this!") For example - on my 'Broadband Connection (Bridge) Properties' page, I have 10.0.1.195 and 0.0.0.0 listed under IP Address. According to BKJ I should DEFINITELY have two valid IPs here - and I'd like to have my router assign a specific IP based on the AT's MAC (the way I assign most LAN addresses,) can anyone make a good argument against doing that - should I manually assign it an IP within the AT's config?
- Finally, what's the real deal on whether doing all of this is going to limit bandwidth with regards to VOD (I've read in other posts that bandwidth (read: QoS) is supposed to automatically jump up depending on VOD usage, but doing this sort of stuff might prevent that from happening, and therefore lower potential VOD/internet performance)?

Why I'm posting:
For reasons beyond the scope of this post, I would *like to* (read: it's going to be a big pain in the butt if I can't) keep my router's IP range of 10.0.1.x (DHCP is 1.101-200). As I said, things kinda work, but I have a feeling I'm going to have to redo things every few days as leases expire (or because of other issues.) Other issues including the fact that newly-added devices (on my LAN) always pick up a 192.168.15.x address until I bang on them with my IP hammer a few times (this makes me feel like there's another DHCP server running somewhere.) I'll change it to something else (especially if someone can put forth a valid argument for going with a 192.168.x subnet.).

Some additional information:
After going through the OP steps, things didn't initially work (I didn't physically connect everything together before making the settings, so I assume that was the problem.) But after restoring the default settings and going through the setup process again, I noticed some settings from my alternate config were still there (eg, "IP set to None", etc), and some things were just different (when I got to step 4 there wasn't a "Broadband Connection (Coax)" available to click). Also, although I ticked through every single 'turn off wireless' step, wireless was still turned on (this wasn't the case after going through things the first time.) As I said before, things are *working* again now that I've gone through the setup process again (and I noticed far fewer inconsistencies this time around,) but I'm afraid things will crap out again - and I'd like to get the 411 on addressing stuff this time around.

Thanks in advance - I hope the smart folks are still monitoring this thread, as it's the best I could find on this subject!

-Joe

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 08 May 2008 08:38:42 EDT

AgentCooper : I can't believe it!!! FINALLY, success! It's been stable for 4 days now. I had to change my personal router's subnet to 192.168.10.0 as there was a conflict with using 192.168.2.0. As I said, when I used the .2 subnet, I would periodically lose my internet connection. It was really odd since the AT is actually using the .1 subnet, but I'm just posting my solution in case others have this problem.

The other thing is that since the AT is on a different subnet, you lose your access to it, unless you manually plug a cable in and set a static IP on your PC to the subnet of the AT. I found a way around this by adding a route in the routing table of my personal router (in my case, IPCop, which is Linux based):

route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.10.1

Now I have access to the AT from my LAN in case I need to modify or reboot it. :)

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 05 May 2008 10:07:24 EDT

AgentCooper : I don't know if this thread is still alive, but I just wanted to say I have this working.. sort of. I can get an IP from Verizon to my personal router, and I had VOD working, but the next day I lost connection to the internet from any machine on my LAN. Actually, I could not even access my router's admin page. After doing DHCP release/renew, the internet came back. But the bottom line is that the cable to the AT supplying the VOD feed is the culprit, because when I pull it, I have no problems, but when it's plugged in, I lose connection to the internet intermittently. VOD works intermittently as well.

My personal router's subnet is 192.168.2.0. Is this causing any conflicts? I'm getting confused by so many subnets between the AT and my own router. I may try changing my router's subnet and/or setting a static IP for the VOD devices, as someone suggested.

Thanx

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:15:54 EDT

JohnAD :

said by anon2112 :

said by JohnAD :

I too tried this setup and could not get an IP to come to my 3rd party router. All of the other settings jive with the OP. I get the .2.1 ip and a local IP based on the 3rd party router (192.168.0.209). But no matter how many times I try to pull the IP it does not come. Am I missing something. I'm using a Buffalo Router with dd-wrt

I feel your pain, JohnAD. I finally got my IPCop box to pull an IP from Verizon. I just walked away for a while and when I came back to try again.. voila, it worked. I used the same instructions, so I don't know.

This is really frustrating for DIYers and tweakers who like to use their own equiment and don't like to be shackled to the Actiontec. It's the one big "gotcha" with Verizon, even though I do think overall FIOS is better service than Comcast ever was for me (I used Comcast for years). I use my own router/firewall that I have customized for some time now and it includes a VPN & the ability to send magic packets to wake up machines on my LAN, to name a few things. I think there are a lot of others out there like me who have their reasons for not using the Actiontec, and I wish Verizon would realize this. And the whole thing about connecting through ethernet for VOD just seems like weird engineering on Verizon's part, IMO, but I'm no expert. 'Sorry for the vent..

Anyway, I found that I was able to get an IP, but every now and then I would lose my connection to both the internet and my IPCop router. I finally found that the culprit was the VOD connection to the WAN port of the AT. I noticed in my IPCop log that there were a bunch of DHCP connections by the AT to IPCop. This had the effect of killing my connection to IPCop from my LAN. Once I pulled the cable, all was well, but of course I lost VOD to my STB's. So, the bottom line is that I don't think this bridging setup works for everyone..

I'm going to try to set up a bridge with a VLAN to ethernet port 1, since that had worked for me before. And if I can't figure it out, my last resort is enabling ethernet on the ONT.. but I have to run cable to my garage to do that.

I did notice that when I reconnect my AT it takes a while to pull an IP again. Maybe I should just leave my router sitting and hope it will automatically pull one through.

I don't need to do any MAC cloning with this setup do I? I'm getting confused between the 3 or 4 different set ups on this board.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:46:38 EDT

anon :

said by birdfeedr :

if you bridge the Actiontec, you have to disable DHCP. Whatever you connect to the Actiontec needs a fixed IP on the Actiontec's subnet. Then you'll get the connection for administering it.

Thanx, birdfeedr. That makes sense. I'll give it a try.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:43:36 EDT

anon :

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:16:55 EDT

birdfeedr :

said by anon2112 :

Finally, is there a way to get back into the AT once this setup is done? The first thing I'm doing if I ever get this working again is backing up the config. ;)

if you bridge the Actiontec, you have to disable DHCP. Whatever you connect to the Actiontec needs a fixed IP on the Actiontec's subnet. Then you'll get the connection for administering it.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 19 Apr 2008 07:38:35 EDT

JohnAD :

said by anon2112 :

So... I had everything working back in February when I first set up FIOS. I had configured the AT based on instructions available at that time using a VLAN bridged to my own firewall (IPCop), and it worked well until someone in my house turned off the ONT and somehow, I lost the config.

I spent hours yesterday just trying to pass an IP from Verizon to my IPCop machine to no avail. Several hard resets of the AT and reboots of IPCop and still no IP :( I don't know whether the firmware in the AT changed or what the deal is, because I don't recall it being this difficult. I'm going to try the "turn off the AT for 2 hours" approach that someone mentioned. Maybe then I can get an IP? We'll see.

I notice these instructions use the WAN port on the AT rather than setting up a VLAN on one of the LAN ports, so I wonder.. which is a better approach?

Finally, is there a way to get back into the AT once this setup is done? The first thing I'm doing if I ever get this working again is backing up the config. ;)

I too tried this setup and could not get an IP to come to my 3rd party router. All of the other settings jive with the OP. I get the .2.1 ip and a local IP based on the 3rd party router (192.168.0.209). But no matter how many times I try to pull the IP it does not come. Am I missing something. I'm using a Buffalo Router with dd-wrt

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:26:33 EDT

anon : So... I had everything working back in February when I first set up FIOS. I had configured the AT based on instructions available at that time using a VLAN bridged to my own firewall (IPCop), and it worked well until someone in my house turned off the ONT and somehow, I lost the config.

I spent hours yesterday just trying to pass an IP from Verizon to my IPCop machine to no avail. Several hard resets of the AT and reboots of IPCop and still no IP :( I don't know whether the firmware in the AT changed or what the deal is, because I don't recall it being this difficult. I'm going to try the "turn off the AT for 2 hours" approach that someone mentioned. Maybe then I can get an IP? We'll see.

I notice these instructions use the WAN port on the AT rather than setting up a VLAN on one of the LAN ports, so I wonder.. which is a better approach?

Finally, is there a way to get back into the AT once this setup is done? The first thing I'm doing if I ever get this working again is backing up the config. ;)

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:34:12 EDT

anon : How do you enable the actiontec to fwd through the external ip
?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:30:33 EDT

smomer : OK, Here I go. I hope the smart guys are still around, because I have a baffling problem that I hope you guys can help me with. I followed the OP and all the revisions along the way ( thanks to all that contributed ) and it worked great. I get VOD , guides ,and widgets. I have 2 actiontec MI424wr ver. A and 1 ver. C routers. All are bridged, almost plug n' play. If one goes bad all I have to do is release ip and replace bad router with another, and clone MAC to my linksys piggybacked router. I have a linksys wrt350n router and a wpc300n pcmcia wireless for my laptop. The problem is I can access my local network , wired PC, I can even print to a printer hooked to the wired PC. I can ping url's , but I CAN'T get to the internet! When I do an IPCONFIG /ALL on the laptop all looks good. Release IP, then renew IP, and ping url's all looks good! I borrowed a NIM 100 from a friend of mine to see if the problem is the laptop, the router , or for what ever reason, the bridging of the actiontec. As it turns out, I can get to the internet wirelessly with the actiontec reverted back to original for (VOD,guides ,etc. - sake )firmware ver.4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7 with wireless turned off, and nim 100 in place. But I don't know why the setup worked great, except for the wireless internet connection. The firmware version was @ 4.0.16.1.55.0.10.4.3 with auto updates blocked ( port 4567 ) when bridged.( As soon as I reset the actiontec, the router was updated with the latest update ver. 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7 ) Can anybody help solve this?

If you have or Want CAT-5 directly to your ONT..

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:21:13 EDT

yubin : Call Verizon. I will not change any settings on my ONT as it voids any help from Verizon if you mess it up from what I understand.I also will not help anyone change the settings within your ONT because I have no clue what it looks like on the inside. If you only have Coax and you want to use your own router, please follow my how-to post. If you have Cat-5, then release your ip and plug the Cat-5 into your own personal router.

I am no way a Verizon guru, I am just a normal person that wanted to have my setup how I like it. I'm glad to help anyone who has questions related to the how-to.

Thanks for all of the kudos from everyone who has used this guide. I apreciate all of the support.

-Yubin

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:31:23 EDT

anon : Hey guys.

I just can't seem to make this work. I do the first step and release th ip and disable dhcp on the broadband(coax), but it seems like everytime the router reboots(to apply settings and such) when it comes back up, the dhcp is enabled and it grabs a new address.

What am I doing wrong? I would really like to get this working. Bricked 3 Rev.C routers using the old VLAN instructions and I still don't know what was wrong. Now they sent me a Rev.D.

Thanks in advance!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:50:36 EDT

BKJ : smomer: please make sure you have the following:

1. Make sure your actiontect is using the 192.168.0.1 ip (dont know why but anything different does not seem to work - at least in my efforts).

2. Make sure your broadband connection bridge has two ip's listed (see my pics on page 4 of this thread). If it does not delete the bridge and recreate it. It should contain a 192.168.2.1 ip and the other one should be an ip in your LAN
given out by your dhcp server.

Hops this helps.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:16:35 EDT

smomer : Hi,
Ok I've been trying to get this right, but so far I can NEVER get the VOD, Guides, & widgets to work. (I have coax coming in from ONT.) I don't really know what I am doing wrong. I would like to know if I can set everything up offline, then simply plugin the actiontec into place, or if I have to make the modifications - step by step, - live. Does anybody have an answer to this. :huh:

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:37:58 EDT

eco : THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!! I've been trying for almost two months to get my guide and VOD to work and this made it happen! I can FINALLY take full advantage of my FiOS TV and internet!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:35:30 EDT

rtcy :

said by yubin :

Rtcy_at_work, if you have ethernet ran to your actiontec, just plug it into your own router instead of the actiontec. Leave the cable connected to the actiontec for the VOD. That's it.
I hope this helps everyone get an idea of how it's setup.

-Yubin

Yubin thank you for your advice, I had gotten this advice from some of the older FIOS users a while back and forgotten all about it and now that I just got FIOs TV it's time to do it. I decided that it's easier NOT to fight Verizon, and just put a new Dlink DIR-655 as the EDGE router and hung the Actiontec on the back as you and others have said when a user has the ETHERNET port turned ON by Verizon like I have.

I left the Actiontec on it's default x.x.1.1 and put the DIR-655 on x.x.0.1

Since the DIR-655 has GIG ports and all my house switches are on GIG speed too, it all works much better ;)

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 08 Mar 2008 10:45:25 EDT

elongatedm : Phroze that was what I needed to get this to work. Finally. BKJ thanks for the pics that also helped to understand what I needed to look for. Thanks for everyones input.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:09:04 EDT

phr0ze : Ok. I ended up making the home network bridge 192.168.0.1 like in the pictures above. Then I set the 3rd party router back to a .1 address. This cleared things up.

If anyone still has trouble try to put a static IP in bridge 2. This might be a good idea anyways.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:54:01 EDT

JPac : Try 192.168.0.1 for your 3rd_party_router address and double check your wires.

Your guide worked Yubin, Thanks for taking the time to write it. :)

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:47:07 EDT

BKJ : Ok, i took some screenies for those with issues. I hope it at least helps a few folks:

my router page
network connections
network (home/office) properties
bb conect. (bridge) properties

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:08:18 EDT

gmartine : My VPN tunnel gets established and I can pass traffic without problems when I have the Linksys facing the ONT.

Once I move the AT to face the ONT and I move the Linksys behind the AT I am still able to open my VPN connection.

I can traceroute to host from my command prompt but I can not open any connections to Port 80 or any other port... I can not use my Outlook.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:46:22 EDT

BKJ : elongatedm,
Did you check your config against my post on page 2?

Starts with:

You may also need to alter the config of:

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:12:11 EDT

More Fiber :

said by gmartine :

My L2TP settings are enabled as you indicated. Any other ideas?

Sorry. I don't have any other suggestions for L2TP, although I am still not clear if L2TP ever worked for you, and if it did, what your configuration was when it did.

From »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_triggering
Port triggering is a way to automate port forwarding in which outbound traffic on predetermined ports ('triggering ports') causes inbound traffic to specific incoming ports to be dynamically forwarded to the initiating host, while the outbound ports are in use. This allows computers behind a NAT-enabled router on a local network to provide services that would normally require the computer to have a fixed address on the local network. Port triggering triggers an open incoming port when a client on the local network makes an outgoing connection on a predetermined port or range of ports.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:22:10 EDT

phr0ze : Yubin,

I am trying and trying. My STB has an IP. I see the STB in the DHCP client table on my DD-WRT. No guide, widget, etc.

Let me know what you did. My actiontec still has 192.168.1.1 reserved so my dd-wrt is 192.168.1.23, did you do something similar?

On the actiontec the set-tops appear as ethernets not coax, is that how yours is?

Can you supply some valid screen shots from the actiontec?

And here is the real stupid question, how do I know if I have revision D? I have a big black actiontec box.

Thanks,
John

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:13:23 EDT

gmartine : My L2TP settings are enabled as you indicated. Any other ideas?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:11:49 EDT

gmartine : My L2TP settings are enabled as you indicated. Any other ideas?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:13:20 EDT

elongatedm : Yubin,

Not sure if you have any more suggestions because I cannot get this to work for the life of me. I get the internet and I get the guide great but the VOD still a no go. I checked the bridge setup on step 15 of the guide and as you stated it only had the one IP address of 192.168.2.1. I went ahead and removed the bridge and recreated it several times and still nothing. I did notice that when I removed the bridge all the STB's showed up in the network status page. Once I recreate the bridge they go away. At this point the only thing I can think about is the 2nd router being the problem. Thanks for your help.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:34:06 EDT

anon : I'm not sure what suggestions have been included but you really don't need to go through all these steps.

All I did on my home network is as follows and I get VOD on all my STBs in my house.

INTERNET NETGEAR
The Netgear is connected to the internet hrough the WAN port.

NETGEAR ACTIONTEC
Ethernet#1 is connected to the Ethernet#1 on the Vz ActionTec box.

ACTIONTEC COAX
The Coax is connected to the Actiontec.

How this works is simple.

First I unhooked everything. Then I plugged in the Actiontec router and connected a PC to it. On the Actiontec I disabled DHCP and changed the routers internal IP address to 192.168.1.254

I then wired the routers together as described above. Again these routers are connected to each other through their respective ethernet ports. They are not connected to each other using the WAN ports as that would create a subnet which I've done but seems overly unnecessary in this case.

Finally I connected the Ethernet coming from the ONT directly into the NETGEAR's WAN port.

Why this works: With nothing connected to the WAN port and with DHCP turned off on the Actiontec it's no longer a router but a HUB. Traffic simply flows from one box to the other.

The NETGEAR's IP is 192.168.1.1 it has DHCP on. The STB's when they connect seek and IP address. They send out the request which travels through the Actiontec to the NETGEAR. They get their IPs and DNS information from the NETGEAR. The Actiontec at this point is just simply a network bridge/hub. The bridged options were installed by default from Vz.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:49:50 EDT

gmartine : I am going to check those setting tonight and I will let you know. The AT was never behind the Linksys. I have to use the AT for VOD. My WRT54G can not stay alive with VOD feeds ;-)\

I can not put the Linksys in front of the AT because VOD, it will basically die as I have explained.

I will check the port triggering stuff. What is port triggering by the way?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:30:23 EDT

More Fiber :

said by gmartine :

This issue started when I moved the linksys behind the AT. When I connect my PC to one the the ethernet ports on the AT I have the same issue VPN is established and I can not access anything

I'm confused. If the issue started when you moved the Linksys behind the AT and you get the same results if you connect directly to the AT, what was then configuration when it worked? Was the Linksys in front of the AT?

If so, then I presume you have a cat-5 connection to the ONT. Why not just put the Linksys back in front of the AT?

I assume you have checked FIREWALL SETTINGS -> PORT TRIGGERING?

L2TP Triggering - Layer Two Tunneling Protocol | UDP Any -> 1701 | UDP Any -> Same as Initiating

should be enabled.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:18:14 EDT

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:17:58 EDT

gmartine : Hello,
This issue started when I moved the linksys behind the AT. When I connect my PC to one the the ethernet ports on the AT I have the same issue -vpn is established and I can not access anything-

I am using the VPN client built on Windows XP. Here is an output of the status window. Any help is greatly appreciated. I guess it has something to do either with double-natting or with port forwarding. FW on the AT is disabled. Any help is appreciated.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:58:57 EDT

More Fiber :

said by gmartine :

I have my linksys behind the AT and everything seems to be working fine. My only issue right now is my VPN from work. I can establish my VPN but I can not connect to my intranet/internet. I can not access my outlook email either.

You don't indicate what VPN software you are using. Some VPN clients, such as Cisco, block access to the local network as a protection to the network you are connected to. There is a config option in the Cisco VPN client to allow access to the local network, however, this can and frequently is overridden by a group policy prohibiting it from being changed locally.

Also, keep in mind that while the VPN is up, the VPN software has obtained a DHCP address from your work network and that all connections go though that address, even though you have a local IP address from the AT or Linksys.

Did this problem start when you moved the Linksys behind the AT?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:03:18 EDT

gmartine : I have my linksys behind the AT and everything seems to be working fine. My only issue right now is my VPN from work. I can establish my VPN but I can not connect to my intranet/internet. I can not access my outlook email either.

Have someone heard anything about port redirection for VPN to work?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:44:53 EDT

anon : More Fiber, many thanks for your reply.

I'll have to follow your suggestion for option 2, as tech left connection via MoCa. I was hoping tech would connect via cat-5 from ONT as well, so I would have both coax(MoCa for impending FIOS TV) and cat-5 for internet. Seems as I'm limited to your option 2.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:03:43 EDT

yubin : Click on the bridge under network connections and there should be 2 ip's showing. 192.168.2.1 and another in your router dhcp range. If there isn't one showing, delete the bridge and create another one.
That's how we got BJK's going.
-Yubin

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:00:00 EDT

elongatedm : Yubin,

Where do I check to ensure that the bridge is getting an IP? Am I going into the newly created bridge to check? Also if it is not getting an IP, what do you recommend that I do to get it going? I think I am one step from getting this working.

Thanks for your help

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 02 Mar 2008 09:39:22 EDT

More Fiber : Hopefully, the tech has left at this point. The tech is correct in a limited sense. You can have connection provisioned at the ONT over either cat-5 or coax (MOCA), but not both. TV is always over coax. The STB utilize ethernet over coax (MOCA) for VOD and guide data.

This results in a number of options.
1) If the tech installed a cat-5 ethernet connection from the ONT, then simply release the DHCP address in the AT and put in your own router. If you later get FIOS TV, you can put the AT behind your router to provide the MOCA connection to the STB's.

2) If the tech connected the AT to the ONT via coax, then follow Yubin's instructions for bridging your router with the AT.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:12:44 EDT

anon : Just curious as to whether this will help me connect my Linksys (for better wireless range and better NAT)

Verizon tech told me only ethernet or MoCa, but not both simultaneously, as new Actiontec has Nim built in. Tech told me to leave as is for impending FIOS TV(long political BS here in NYC to get approved; NYC had cable tv in the 60's while we here in Brooklyn did not get cable tv until 1992.)

Thanks

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:46:11 EDT

anon : Yubin, Would this also work if there is no FIOS TV?

Currently NYC only has telephone and internet. My install was done with coax to Actiontec ver D. and no cat 5 from ONT to router. Therefore unable to connect Linksys without cat 5.

In NYC installs are done via coax (MoCa for impending FIOS TV) and easier(?) and quicker(?). Can VZ install cat 5 as well to have both coax and cat 5 run simultanously?

Verizon tech expected here today any minute to advise on the above.

Thanks

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:54:15 EDT

yubin : elongatedm This means that your bridge isn't working, check to make sure that your ethernet bridge has an ip from your other router.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:27:17 EDT

gmartine : Hello Yubin,
This Sunday I am going to have an AT router installed. Currently I am using a Linksys WRT54 connected to my ONT using an Ethernet. My VOD comes using a little Morotola box that converts coax into Ethernet UTP and connects back to the Linksys. I can clear see the my STB gets an IP assigned from my Linksys router.

I want to put my Linksys router behind the AT because the Linksys is not capable of handling VOD + my Internet connection.

I want to you my AT as a bridge.

Should I connect the Ethernet WAN connection of the AT to the ONT and then one of the LAN port of the AT to the Linksys? Any other considerations?

Thank you
GM

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:21:49 EDT

gmartine : Hello Yubin,
This sunday I am going to have an AT router installed. Currently I am using a Linksys WRT54G router facing Vzn and my VOD comes using a little Morotola box that converts coax into Ethernet UTP and then connects to my Linksys.

I want to you my AT to act as a bridge. My Internet connectivity comes to my house using Ethernet.

Should I connect the WAN connection of the ACtiontech to the ONT and then one of the LAN port of the AT to the Linksys? Any other considerations?

Thanks
gm

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:10:06 EDT

elongatedm : I need some help. So I start fresh after a ip lease break and follow the directions at the beginning of this thread. I follow everything to a tee. I have no problem getting to the internet. The issue is the guide itself. It is up and running and functional but for some reason if I try to access the widgets, it gives me an error that it cannot connect to the server. Worse yet if I have power cycle the stb's that is the end of the guides. Has anybody run into this?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:27:32 EDT

yubin : Rtcy_at_work, if you have ethernet ran to your actiontec, just plug it into your own router instead of the actiontec. Leave the cable connected to the actiontec for the VOD. That's it.

JaySco The actiontec will get the internet from the Ethernet Wan port, which is plugged into the router of your choice. Your router receives an external IP fromVerizon through the bridge we created on the actiontec.

I made this pic to show you how it works

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I hope this helps everyone get an idea of how it's setup.

-Yubin

[Mod note: Edited to fix the margins. sash]

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:55:04 EDT

anon : Sorry if this a stupid question. Looking at the configuration, where does the Bridge get connected to the Internet? If both WAN ports are taken up by the Bridge? Or am I look at this wrong?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:51:24 EDT

anon : can this be made to work for those of us that have ethernet turned on ?

I will attempt it, but I might as well ask. I tried all of yesterday and failed. will try to apply these steps to my set up and see where it gets me.

any help from those that have done it is welcomed

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:11:27 EDT

More Fiber : Why don't you submit your instructions to the FIOS FAQ:

»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:51:10 EDT

yubin : Raere, thanks for the kudos, but I did this for the many people out there who are as frustrated as I was with all of the other How-Tos. I hope everyone else finds this an easy guide as well.

-Yubin

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:54:19 EDT

anon : You are a god among men Yubin. I've been waiting for an easy guide, and yours worked. Many, many thanks.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:07:31 EDT

More Fiber : Did you try setting QOS for the VOD?
QOS in on for VOD by default in the Actiontec.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:49:09 EDT

yubin : Sniping, I had that problem at first, but it all works smooth now. It could just be your router, but I don't think so.

Mine was choppy for about a day, after that it was fine

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:50:43 EDT

SnipingWaste : Sorry I should post the router I'm using too. Its a Linksys SRX 200 also known at WRT54 GX2. Every thing works with the linksys doing all the routing but the VOD is very choppy with artifacts in the video and the sound cutting in and out.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:34:12 EDT

SnipingWaste : I can get VOD to work now but play back is very chopping. Any way to fix that?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:02:04 EDT

yubin : Xmas came early!!! Thanks a lot bud. You really shouldn't have.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:59:53 EDT

BKJ : Yubin, a present is in the mail heading your way!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:19:53 EDT

baygins : The real question is, why doesn't Verizon setup a small side data channel using an "unused" frequency for the STB to get the VoD data without having to get a separate IP from the router.
Think about the 2B+D in the ISDN World. :-)

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:59:52 EDT

yubin : First, sorry gents for not responding, I've been under the weather the last couple of days. If anyone has any questions or needs any help, please let me know and I'll do what I can for you.

For the previous comment made by cookymonsta.....

The actiontec lan -> Linksys WAN and Linksys Lan -> actiontec Wan is simple.

the actiontec bridge passes the external information through to the linksys and then the linksys uses it's own dhcp and provides all LAN ports with ip addresses. The actiontec still needs an ip with internet access for the VOD to work. there for, the actiontec will pull an ip on it's own WAN port thinking it's the internet and the linksys provides it one.

Kind of circular thinking, but it works.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:39:31 EDT

cookymonsta : holy crap. ITS WORKING! i have been at this for WEEEEEKS! THANK YOU!!!!

i didn't know why i needed actiontec switch to linksys wan then linksys switch to aniontec wan.

Can anyone explain the reasons for that?

Is it because of the two bridges that were created?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:14:25 EDT

BKJ : Cookymonsta:

You may also need to alter the config of:

Coax -> Actiontec -> Actiontec:Ethernet connection1:RJ45 -> 2ND Router Internet Port(WAN Connection)-> 2ND Router:Ethernet port 1:RJ45 -> Actiontec:WAN (Internet)ethernet port.(Sounds redundant but your second router is the new DHCP and the actiontec uses that dhcp to give itself an internal ip and provide internet for your STB's

to

Coax -> Actiontec -> Actiontec:Ethernet connection1:RJ45 -> 2ND Router Internet Port(WAN Connection)-> 2ND Router:Ethernet port 1:RJ45 -> LAN Switch:RJ45 -> LAN Switch:RJ45 -> Actiontec:WAN (Internet)ethernet port.(Sounds redundant but your second router is the new DHCP and the actiontec uses that dhcp to give itself an internal ip and provide internet for your STB's

If I didnt make the above change I could not get out to the internet.

For simplicity here is my setup:

Hardware:
linux fw/router with 2 interfaces (1 wan - 1 lan)
cisco 2900 switch
Actiontec

Config:
linux fw/router wan port to actiontec ethernet port (can be any of the 4)
linux fw/router lan to cisco switch
cisco switch to actiontec wan port

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:28:52 EDT

cookymonsta :

said by Hooper :

If the Coax connection is not bridged (look at my first image above --> Coax needs to be indented in the Network Connections status page) , the set top boxes will not pull an IP address from your 3rd party router. As a result, Internet connectivity may be limited depending on your exact setup.

ok i did that now broadband Ethernet (coax) says "down" after i enable it.

I am supposed to be hooked into port one on the actiontec router right?

So it goes Actiontec (PORT 1) -> 3rd party router WAN port?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:17:15 EDT

Hooper : If the Coax connection is not bridged (look at my first image above --> Coax needs to be indented in the Network Connections status page) , the set top boxes will not pull an IP address from your 3rd party router. As a result, Internet connectivity may be limited depending on your exact setup.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:06:20 EDT

cookymonsta : i used these steps, i can try the bridge right now. but any idea why these wont work?

==============================net================================
Please note that these are MoCA instructions, not Ethernet. I'm providing this as an effort to help those out still experiencing problems with the original guide.

Performed on the following:

Router: MI424-WR Rev D. w/MoCA WAN
Current Firmware Version: 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7

Please let me know if I have left anything, if something is incorrect or unclear. After a week I have this finally working after trying non-stop, these were the steps I took. I was able to get VOD working, but didn't include those instructions. I can write that up too if there is a demand for it.

I take no responsibility for anything that goes wrong (even though not much can, it's all configuration).

1) Connect your computer to the MI424-WR using an Ethernet connection.

2) Open your web browser and type in 192.168.1.1 in the URL and press "enter"

3) The default username and password for the MI424-WR is "admin" and "password; however Verizon techs tend to change the password to "password1". If neither works, you will need to do a hard reset on the router (hold down the reset pinhole with a paperclip for about 10 seconds).

4) Once you are logged in, reset the router to the default settings. To reset the config to defaults, click on "Advanced" at the top, and then click yes in the confirmation box. You will then see "Restore Defaults" at the lower left side of the screen (under the red toolbox icon). The router will now reboot itself. Remember that the username and password resets itself to the Action Tec default of "admin" and "password". It's a good idea to change the password after this is all done.

5) Log back into the router after you have "Restore Defaults", you will now need to go to back to “Advanced” at the top of your screen. Click on “System Settings”, and then scroll all the way to the bottom. Change the Auto Wan to disabled. This will disable the router from automatically trying to regain its MoCA IP address when you release it (later on). Apply these settings.

The why (if you care to read): If you noticed, or at least I did when the tech was on my computer - he ran some scripts off of an usb flash drive. These scripts first wrote some configuration to the router, and then updated it to the latest firmware. This means the configuration written on your updated firmware was made for an older firmware (why some of you got an error trying to load it after restoring factory defaults). I took a text compare program and compared the configuration you save first vs. the configuration you save after your router has been reset to factory defaults & they are VERY different, but the router still can load it (but won’t if you try when the firmware is updated and reset back to it's new way of handling config files). You can go to Advanced on the top of your screen once logged into the MI424-WR, downgrade the firmware, and load the configuration file (usually called 'Wireless') then update back to the latest firmware if you choose to do so. Long process for no reason, but this was the only way I got it to work. Anyways…

6) Log back into the router then click on "My Network" at the top of the screen. Once you are there, click on "Network Connections" at the menu on the left.

7) You should now see a list of interfaces that exist in the router. To see them all, click on the "Advanced" button below that list.

8) Now you will need to release your MI424-WR's IP from the ONT. To do this, click on the "Broadband Connection (Coax)" from the connection list. Then click on the "Settings" button at the bottom. You will now see a bunch of settings for this interface. Make sure the "Privacy" option is enabled (if you have reset your MI424-WR to defaults earlier, it maybe disabled, but on the newer routers it’s permanently enabled and grayed out). Not having the privacy setting enabled will cause the connection to the ONT to fail. Click the "Release" button FIRST and then change the "Internet Protocol" option to "No IP Address" (default setting is "Obtain an IP Address Automatically") then apply these settings.

9) In the connection list, click on "Network (Home/Office)", and then click on the "Settings" button. You will see a list of interfaces under "Bridge". Check the box next to the "Broadband Connection (Coax)", and then check the box under the STP column. Apply these settings.

10) Click on "Wireless Access Point" in the interface list and then click on "Disable".

11) Disable the built-in firewall also. Click on "Firewall Settings" and then select "Minimum", then click on "Apply". Also while going through the connections you can uncheck any boxes that state “Firewall” & apply them.

12) The MI424-WR should still have a connection to the ONT but be offline to the internet. You can check this by going back into "My Network", then "Network Connections", then clicking on the "Full Status" button at the bottom of the list. "Broadband Connection (Coax)" Should say it's connected still.

13) You will now need to go to back to “Advanced” at the top of your screen. Click on the MAC Cloning from the drop down list select "Broadband Connection (Coax)" and on a piece of paper or in Notepad write down the MAC address of the "Broadband Connection (Coax)" that’s currently being used. After you have that information replace the "Broadband Connection (Coax)" MAC with the MAC of the 3rd party router that you’re going to hook up to it or to the MAC of your PC’s NIC. Apply these settings.

14) Next, disconnect all computers from the MI424-WR, then connect Ethernet to & setup your 3rd party router. Change its WAN MAC to the one you wrote down above for the "Broadband Connection (Coax)". Make this router obtain an IP address automatically but for the LAN distribution change it to the 192.168.0.1 network (for simplicity sake). After everything has been setup, connect an Ethernet cable from the WAN port of your 3rd party router to port 1 (again, for simplicity sake) of the MI424-WR’s switch.

15) With any luck your 3rd party router should have pulled an IP from Verizon.

16) Because your Ethernet is bridged under the "Network (Home/Office)" connection (which we did not release an IP address from), your computer WILL still get an IP address on the 192.168.1.1 network. Just connect an Ethernet cable from your PC to the MI424-WR's switch (any port). You will do this to connect to the MI424-WR from now on.

==============================vod=================================

To get VOD working:

First, get the above working

Now that your 3rd party router has an IP address, and you can get to the internet through one of it's switch ports (or through it wirelessly) we will start to isolate the switch port 1 on the MI424-WR into it's own VLAN so you can get VOD / other services that rely on the MI424-WR to work.

1) Log back into the MI424-WR (using the IP address of 192.168.2.1 to connect) by attaching Ethernet to one of it's switch ports (not port 1 where you have your 3rd party router, use 2, 3, or 4) then click on 'My Network' at the top of the screen. Once you are there, click on 'Network Connections' at the menu on the left.

2) You should now see a list of interfaces that exist in the router. To see them all, click on the 'Advanced' button below that list.

3) If you have been following verbatim, under the 'Network (Home/Office)' connection bridge should be 'Ethernet', 'Broadband Connection (Coax)', 'Coax', and 'Wireless Access Point'.

4) We will remove Ethernet first, so In the connection list, click on 'Network (Home/Office)', and then click on the 'Settings' button. You will see a list of interfaces under 'Bridge'. Uncheck the box next to the 'Ethernet', and then uncheck the box under the STP column. Apply these settings.

5) Ethernet will now be removed from the bridge and be automatically assigned a different network. Because we removed only this first, it will be given the 192.168.2.1 network.

6) Do a start, run, type cmd (enter), then type ipconfig /release (enter) then ipconfig /renew (enter)

NOTE: For Vista it's just start then type cmd in the white box on the bottom.

7) In your browser change the 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.2.1 and reconnect to the MI424-WR.

8) Once back on go back to the 'Network Connections' view. Ethernet should now be separated from the Network (Home/Office) connection. 'Broadband Connection (Coax)', 'Coax', and 'Wireless Access Point' should still be in the (Home/Office) connection.

9) In Network (Home/Office)'s settings, do the same thing (uncheck boxes for it and STP) for 'Coax', and 'Wireless Access Point'. Apply these settings.

NOTE: The MI424-WR acts funny when you remove 'Coax' out of the Network (Home/Office) bridge, or at least it did for me when I had Auto Wan enabled. If you notice your router going into an repetitive reboot, unplug the actual coax line that's feeding into the back of the MI424-WR and it will come up without rebooting.

10) Now the only thing that should be in the 'Network (Home/Office)' bridge is 'Broadband Connection (Coax)' by itself. Click on 'Ethernet', 'Settings'. At the bottom of this next view you will change 'hide' to 'show' for the 4 port switch and all 4 ports will be shown. Click the 'Edit' button for port 1, then change Ingress policy to tagging and change the PVID from 0 to 1 (doing this will also add this port into VLAN 1 - so you don't need to bother adding this port into VLAN 1). Apply these settings.

11) Back at the 'Network Connections' view, Click 'Add' Select 'VLAN Interface' then next, select 'Ethernet' from the drop down, and enter 1 for the VLAN. Apply these settings.

12) In 'Network (Home/Office)', 'Settings' - Check the box for 'Ethernet 2' and STP under the bridge. Also select 'No IP Address' from the 'Internet Protocol' drop down. Apply these settings.

13) Back at the 'Network Connections' view open 'Broadband Connection (Ethernet)', 'Settings'. Take a Ethernet cable and attach one side of it to the MI424-WR's Ethernet WAN port and the other to your 3rd party router's switch port 1 (for simplicity sake). Next you will enable this connection, and apply the settings.

14) 'Broadband Connection (Ethernet)' should now be connected, and your 'Network (Home/Office)' bridge should only contain 'Ethernet 2' and 'Broadband Connection (Coax)'.

Check your router status to see if it has a 192.168.0.X IP address.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:01:23 EDT

Hooper : So if the box is pulling a 192.168.3.x address, it sounds like the Coax interface is not part of the new bridge that was created in step 15.

15) Select Network Bridge -> Next -> Select Add a New bridge -> Next -> Check Broadband Ethernet and Coax. Uncheck Wireless. -> Click Next.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:52:32 EDT

cookymonsta :

said by Hooper :

said by cookymonsta :

Can one of you help me out, i have been trying this for weeks. tried the step by step here, i can get everything to work but the VOD. Anyone on yahoo?

Are you getting guide data? Have you unplugged all your set top boxes?

the box is not getting an ip. yeah i unplugged it, plugged it back in. if i enable dhcp on the ethernet interface on the fios router the box will pull a 192.168.3.100 address, but that wont work ether.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:37:52 EDT

Hooper :

said by cookymonsta :

Can one of you help me out, i have been trying this for weeks. tried the step by step here, i can get everything to work but the VOD. Anyone on yahoo?

Are you getting guide data? Have you unplugged all your set top boxes?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:36:59 EDT

Hooper :

said by baygins :

yubin,
It's an interesting setup with the DHCP Relay. I am wondering if this is bypassing the AT QoS settings that it automatically assigns to the STBs in the 192.168.1.x range (.100 usually).
Any thoughts on that?

QoS is out the window with this setup. HOWEVER, this config only impacts QoS on your local LAN. WAN QoS is handled by Verizon to support multiple HD streams by dynamically adjusting throughput/caps on your line. The biggest problem you may face with this setup is that your 3rd party router might not have the WAN throughput to support the amount of traffic that can be generated.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:14:06 EDT

anon : Can one of you help me out, i have been trying this for weeks. tried the step by step here, i can get everything to work but the VOD. Anyone on yahoo?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:23:33 EDT

baygins : To take advantage of the advanced routing, QoS and wireless capabilities of your "_insert_3rd_party_router_name_" box rather than being restricted to the capabilities offered by AT (e.g., extremely limited NAT table).

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:19:10 EDT

portwashguy : This question probably shows my lack of detailed knowledge but:

What is the advantage of the setup you are describing compared to simply running a second router off the actiontec router by plugging the 2nd router with a cat5 cable into one of the actiontac's lan ports?

(I needed a router with better range, so I am using this config with a "N" router as the wnd router.)

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:15:49 EDT

baygins : yubin,
It's an interesting setup with the DHCP Relay. I am wondering if this is bypassing the AT QoS settings that it automatically assigns to the STBs in the 192.168.1.x range (.100 usually).
Any thoughts on that?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:21:08 EDT

BKJ : ugg.. FINALLY with the help of yubin I was able to get things working. My issue was that new bridge being created (in step 14/15) failed to add/pickup a lan ip. So if things are not working check that the new bridge is picking up an ip.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:51:31 EDT

yubin : I added you.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:49:21 EDT

anon : ok i created an yahoo account: builtbygeek

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:49:18 EDT

anon : ok have a yahoo account. how can i get you my screen name w/o posting to the world. Yes, i know what dhcp relay is and how it works (thanks).

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:49:14 EDT

anon : did you get it?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:49:08 EDT

anon : ok i sent you a pm on yahoo.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:49:05 EDT

anon : ugg.. did you get the pm yubin?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:48:57 EDT

anon : hooper, my exact sentiments... i am so close to going back to my cable modem! arggggg....

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:41:07 EDT

Hooper :

said by yubin :

are you referring to rebooting the actiontec? or your personal router? If you mean the actiontec, then yes, mine disables the BB eth everytime, but it still pulls an IP for some reason. If that happens to you, jsut enable the BB Eth again and then reboot your personal router. It all picks back up.

That's the rub... I am not always at home when the power goes out. I have been running a config like this one for over a year and sometimes the Actiontec just craps out on its own and reboots itself as well. It is so sad that we have to go through all this nonsense to use our own equipment.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:36:13 EDT

yubin : are you referring to rebooting the actiontec? or your personal router? If you mean the actiontec, then yes, mine disables the BB eth everytime, but it still pulls an IP for some reason. If that happens to you, jsut enable the BB Eth again and then reboot your personal router. It all picks back up.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:33:59 EDT

Hooper : What happens if you reboot the router? Does the Actiontec Ethernet connection become disabled still?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:29:34 EDT

yubin : ok send me your cell in an IM here and I'll call you.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:26:42 EDT

anon : OK Here is a quick explanation for the DHCP Relay.

The Relay expands your personal FW/Router's DHCP range to the STB's. Basically the relay sends the requests for IP's from the STB's to your personal router and then assigns the ips from the router to the STB's. This way all of them will be on the same network range. It's easier than setting them up on a separate network. I've tried separating them, but the widgets and VOD stop working, so it's pointless.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:23:44 EDT

anon : no i dont have yahoo messanger but i can/do have voip or cell number that i can give to you. If you prefer anoher way that would be great as well the problem with yahoo messanger is that when i plug my smoothwall lan into actiontec wan i can no longer get out on the inet.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:09:54 EDT

anon : BKJ, your fw with two nics should still work. Honestly, I use a server as my fw/router with a bridged router on the back side of it. It is essentially the same as what you have. Just plug the ethernet cable from your actiontec into your WAN nic of your fw, then do the opposite, ethernet cable from your fw to the actiontec wan port.

You can also try changing your home/network DHCP server in the actiontec to a DHCP relay so that it does not conflict with your smoothwall.

Do you have a yahoo messenger account? I can talk to you on there and help you out.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:05:11 EDT

anon : uggg.... lol now i am the only one who cant get this crap right...

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:03:42 EDT

anon : baygins any chance of contacting you directly? I live in the dc area as well.

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:03:30 EDT

anon : Glad I could help!

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:59:15 EDT

baygins : Wait, this is unbelievable!!! Right after I posted the above, I went back to my STB, saw that it pulled a 192.168.0.124 address (my Linksys WRT54GL is configured for 192.168.0.x address space); and VoD & widgets work.
Interesting eh?

Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:55:35 EDT

baygins : Hey BKJ,
Having similar pains as you are; all IP setups and cabling are according to the guides, STB gets an IP (sometimes 192.168.1.2, sometimes 192.168.100.1) but VoD and Widgets are a no go.
I heard somewhere that the STBs need a 192.168.100.1 address to work properly. I dont know why that would be requirement if all they have to do is to do a DNS query for the head-end servers and then establish a silly IP connection :-)