DataDoc
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| It's only going to take one organized campaign to screw this up. Some political/ecco/religious/conspiracy (take your pick) group gets organized, they all vote the same way and nail a site they disagree with.
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texans20
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| Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign said by TKJunkMail  :said by DataDoc :to screw this up. Some political/ecco/religious/conspiracy (take your pick) group gets organized, they all vote the same way and nail a site they disagree with. Like the Ron Paul crowd blocking the John McCain site?  I'm thinking those crazy Scientologists blocking sites that are critical of Scientology as "hate" sites.
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| Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign If the $cientologists did that sort of thing, the first site
on their hit list would be Operation Clambake (xenu.net).
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davidu
join:2006-12-28
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| said by DataDoc :to screw this up. Some political/ecco/religious/conspiracy (take your pick) group gets organized, they all vote the same way and nail a site they disagree with. That's not true -- We've prevented abuse with PhishTank and we're going to prevent it here too. Not all the keys to the castle are being handed out to random users.
There is a web of trust built in, and we have moderators. We just have to finish writing up some documentation and FAQ stuff on the site.
Just listing a domain in a category won't make it be blocked. This service will be MORE comprehensive than the one where there is a college kid hung-over in the basement of a security company classifying sites. This requires more than one person to screw up (or intentionally mess with) the database.
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TKJunkMail
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2 edits | Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign said by davidu :There is a web of trust built in, and we have moderators. We just have to finish writing up some documentation and FAQ stuff on the site. Just listing a domain in a category won't make it be blocked. This service will be MORE comprehensive than the one where there is a college kid hung-over in the basement of a security company classifying sites. This requires more than one person to screw up (or intentionally mess with) the database. I love the discussion though. Since you apparently work for OpenDNS, maybe you could answer this question?
When using a browser based ad blocker like adblock plus on Firefox or IE7Pro on Internet Explorer, which gets control of the blocking 1st - the browser based ad blocker or the OpenDNS category blocking service?
The answer could be meaningful since your "Adware" category blocking would return an error msg say when blocking doubleclick.net, if I read the notes on your web site correctly. If OpenDNS gets control 1st and sends an error msg, that could mess up the correct rendering of a web page with the ads stripped out.
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West Vancouver, BC | Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign Well, he *founded* OpenDNS - I sure as all hope he knows what he's talking about  | |
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davidu
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| said by TKJunkMail :Since you apparently work for OpenDNS, maybe you could answer this question? I can try.
said by TKJunkMail :When using a browser based ad blocker like adblock plus on Firefox or IE7Pro on Internet Explorer, which gets control of the blocking 1st - the browser based ad blocker or the OpenDNS category blocking service? I think we do... but go ahead and try blocking doubleclick.net and see what happens...
said by TKJunkMail :The answer could be meaningful since your "Adware" category blocking would return an error msg say when blocking doubleclick.net, if I read the notes on your web site correctly. If OpenDNS gets control 1st and sends an error msg, that could mess up the correct rendering of a web page with the ads stripped out. We do a good job not messing up. At least, we try. Give it a whirl and tell me what you think. | |
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TKJunkMail
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| Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign said by davidu :said by TKJunkMail :The answer could be meaningful since your "Adware" category blocking would return an error msg say when blocking doubleclick.net, if I read the notes on your web site correctly. If OpenDNS gets control 1st and sends an error msg, that could mess up the correct rendering of a web page with the ads stripped out. We do a good job not messing up. At least, we try. Give it a whirl and tell me what you think. I'll try it out as soon as the doubleclick domains get out of the "Undecided" category.
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davidu
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San Francisco, CA | Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign You can always block domains individually of course in your account (and whitelist them too). | |
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gaforces
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| Its going to be hard to stop groups taking over like at Digg and more recently /.
The religious groups will have a field day/decade filtering sites they object to.
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| Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign said by gaforces :Its going to be hard to stop groups taking over like at Digg and more recently /. The religious groups will have a field day/decade filtering sites they object to. As could, in theory, the anti religious groups.
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major marco
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| Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign said by La Luna :said by gaforces :Its going to be hard to stop groups taking over like at Digg and more recently /. The religious groups will have a field day/decade filtering sites they object to. As could, in theory, the anti religious groups. Theoretically, yes, but non-religious groups tend not to be as vocal, obnoxious or as organized as the religious cultheads are. You don't see non-religious groups petitioning the FCC to ban titties flashed at half-time shows, crying about Harry Potter books or pushing for ISPs to install "porn" and evolution filters so their precious lil dahlinks aren't exposed to reality.
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@comcast.net | Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign nice try eintein but the most intolerant groups by far are the homosexual militants and left wing socialist idiots way more so than jesus freak conservatives. | |
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major marco
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| Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign said by adam henry :
nice try eintein but the most intolerant groups by far are the homosexual militants and left wing socialist idiots way more so than jesus freak conservatives.
LMAO. Whatta maroon. You must be able to correctly spell words first before you sarcastically belittle someone else. | |
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