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Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20032847 en Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:57:10 EDT Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:57:10 EDT Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20040381 major marco :

said by adam henry :

nice try eintein but the most intolerant groups by far are the homosexual militants and left wing socialist idiots way more so than jesus freak conservatives.

LMAO. Whatta maroon. You must be able to correctly spell words first before you sarcastically belittle someone else. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20040381 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:00:14 EDT Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20039206 anon : nice try eintein but the most intolerant groups by far are the homosexual militants and left wing socialist idiots way more so than jesus freak conservatives. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20039206 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:37:19 EDT Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20038756 TKJunkMail :

said by davidu

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You can always block domains individually of course in your account (and whitelist them too).

I gave it a try and it looks like adblock plus gets 1st crack and then opendns domain blocking after that. See the following 4 clips to show the results:

Neither adblocking technology turned on:
[att=1]
Only OpenDNS domain blocking on:
[att=2]
Only Adblock Plus add-on turned on:
[att=3]
Both OpenDNS domain blocking and Adblock Plus add-on turned on:
[att=4]

So it looks like Firefox Adblock Plus add-on will get control 1st and if that doesn't catch it, then OpenDNS domain blocking will catch any that are missed.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20038756 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:20:30 EDT Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20037257 davidu : You can always block domains individually of course in your account (and whitelist them too).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20037257 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:17:27 EDT Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20036640 BosstonesOwn : Dude great service and this is a good idea providing the mods you folks use can keep up. I'd gladly help moderate on a system like this , I will be helping out as much as possible here :)

BTW I click through ads and if Im going to buy something from a store I use the link through the opendns pages to get to the site ;) hope it brings you guys a little more money to keep this running.
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said by davidu

said by TKJunkMail

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The answer could be meaningful since your "Adware" category blocking would return an error msg say when blocking doubleclick.net, if I read the notes on your web site correctly. If OpenDNS gets control 1st and sends an error msg, that could mess up the correct rendering of a web page with the ads stripped out.

We do a good job not messing up. At least, we try. Give it a whirl and tell me what you think. :-)

I'll try it out as soon as the doubleclick domains get out of the "Undecided" category.
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said by TKJunkMail

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Since you apparently work for OpenDNS, maybe you could answer this question?

I can try.

said by TKJunkMail

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When using a browser based ad blocker like adblock plus on Firefox or IE7Pro on Internet Explorer, which gets control of the blocking 1st - the browser based ad blocker or the OpenDNS category blocking service?

I think we do... but go ahead and try blocking doubleclick.net and see what happens...

said by TKJunkMail

We do a good job not messing up. At least, we try. Give it a whirl and tell me what you think. :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20036265 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:48:18 EDT Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20036090 major marco :

said by La Luna

said by gaforces

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Its going to be hard to stop groups taking over like at Digg and more recently /.
The religious groups will have a field day/decade filtering sites they object to.

As could, in theory, the anti religious groups.

Theoretically, yes, but non-religious groups tend not to be as vocal, obnoxious or as organized as the religious cultheads are. You don't see non-religious groups petitioning the FCC to ban titties flashed at half-time shows, crying about Harry Potter books or pushing for ISPs to install "porn" and evolution filters so their precious lil dahlinks aren't exposed to reality.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20036090 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:18:35 EDT Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20034243 La Luna :

said by gaforces

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Its going to be hard to stop groups taking over like at Digg and more recently /.
The religious groups will have a field day/decade filtering sites they object to.

As could, in theory, the anti religious groups.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20034243 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:03:29 EDT Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20033973 vanDSLuser : Well, he *founded* OpenDNS - I sure as all hope he knows what he's talking about :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20033973 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:22:37 EDT Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20033509 gaforces : Its going to be hard to stop groups taking over like at Digg and more recently /.
The religious groups will have a field day/decade filtering sites they object to.
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on their hit list would be Operation Clambake (xenu.net).
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20033501 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:07:48 EDT Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20033332 TKJunkMail :

said by davidu

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There is a web of trust built in, and we have moderators. We just have to finish writing up some documentation and FAQ stuff on the site.

Just listing a domain in a category won't make it be blocked. This service will be MORE comprehensive than the one where there is a college kid hung-over in the basement of a security company classifying sites. This requires more than one person to screw up (or intentionally mess with) the database.

I love the discussion though. :-)

Since you apparently work for OpenDNS, maybe you could answer this question?

When using a browser based ad blocker like adblock plus on Firefox or IE7Pro on Internet Explorer, which gets control of the blocking 1st - the browser based ad blocker or the OpenDNS category blocking service?

The answer could be meaningful since your "Adware" category blocking would return an error msg say when blocking doubleclick.net, if I read the notes on your web site correctly. If OpenDNS gets control 1st and sends an error msg, that could mess up the correct rendering of a web page with the ads stripped out.
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said by TKJunkMail

said by DataDoc

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to screw this up. Some political/ecco/religious/conspiracy (take your pick) group gets organized, they all vote the same way and nail a site they disagree with.

Like the Ron Paul crowd blocking the John McCain site? ;)

I'm thinking those crazy Scientologists blocking sites that are critical of Scientology as "hate" sites.
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said by DataDoc

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to screw this up. Some political/ecco/religious/conspiracy (take your pick) group gets organized, they all vote the same way and nail a site they disagree with.

That's not true -- We've prevented abuse with PhishTank and we're going to prevent it here too. Not all the keys to the castle are being handed out to random users.

There is a web of trust built in, and we have moderators. We just have to finish writing up some documentation and FAQ stuff on the site.

Just listing a domain in a category won't make it be blocked. This service will be MORE comprehensive than the one where there is a college kid hung-over in the basement of a security company classifying sites. This requires more than one person to screw up (or intentionally mess with) the database.

I love the discussion though. :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20033230 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:20:40 EDT Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20032847 TKJunkMail :

said by DataDoc

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to screw this up. Some political/ecco/religious/conspiracy (take your pick) group gets organized, they all vote the same way and nail a site they disagree with.

Like the Ron Paul crowd blocking the John McCain site? ;)
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