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ThrowDemsOut
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Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign

said by davidu:

There is a web of trust built in, and we have moderators. We just have to finish writing up some documentation and FAQ stuff on the site.

Just listing a domain in a category won't make it be blocked. This service will be MORE comprehensive than the one where there is a college kid hung-over in the basement of a security company classifying sites. This requires more than one person to screw up (or intentionally mess with) the database.

I love the discussion though.
Since you apparently work for OpenDNS, maybe you could answer this question?

When using a browser based ad blocker like adblock plus on Firefox or IE7Pro on Internet Explorer, which gets control of the blocking 1st - the browser based ad blocker or the OpenDNS category blocking service?

The answer could be meaningful since your "Adware" category blocking would return an error msg say when blocking doubleclick.net, if I read the notes on your web site correctly. If OpenDNS gets control 1st and sends an error msg, that could mess up the correct rendering of a web page with the ads stripped out.
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vanDSLuser
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Well, he *founded* OpenDNS - I sure as all hope he knows what he's talking about



davidu

join:2006-12-28
San Francisco, CA

reply to ThrowDemsOut

said by ThrowDemsOut:

Since you apparently work for OpenDNS, maybe you could answer this question?
I can try.

said by ThrowDemsOut:

When using a browser based ad blocker like adblock plus on Firefox or IE7Pro on Internet Explorer, which gets control of the blocking 1st - the browser based ad blocker or the OpenDNS category blocking service?
I think we do... but go ahead and try blocking doubleclick.net and see what happens...

said by ThrowDemsOut:

The answer could be meaningful since your "Adware" category blocking would return an error msg say when blocking doubleclick.net, if I read the notes on your web site correctly. If OpenDNS gets control 1st and sends an error msg, that could mess up the correct rendering of a web page with the ads stripped out.
We do a good job not messing up. At least, we try. Give it a whirl and tell me what you think.


ThrowDemsOut
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said by davidu:

said by ThrowDemsOut:

The answer could be meaningful since your "Adware" category blocking would return an error msg say when blocking doubleclick.net, if I read the notes on your web site correctly. If OpenDNS gets control 1st and sends an error msg, that could mess up the correct rendering of a web page with the ads stripped out.
We do a good job not messing up. At least, we try. Give it a whirl and tell me what you think.
I'll try it out as soon as the doubleclick domains get out of the "Undecided" category.
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davidu

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You can always block domains individually of course in your account (and whitelist them too).



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said by davidu:

You can always block domains individually of course in your account (and whitelist them too).
I gave it a try and it looks like adblock plus gets 1st crack and then opendns domain blocking after that. See the following 4 clips to show the results:

Neither adblocking technology turned on:


Only OpenDNS domain blocking on:


Only Adblock Plus add-on turned on:


Both OpenDNS domain blocking and Adblock Plus add-on turned on:



So it looks like Firefox Adblock Plus add-on will get control 1st and if that doesn't catch it, then OpenDNS domain blocking will catch any that are missed.
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