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Re: Sorry but..
Great post, b10010011. I have always thought their solution to manage the networks was a BAD ideal. Forging packets is just a shady option IMO.
They know where the "hogs" as Rick puts it are. They should be more proactive in booting them. That would have given them much less negative press I think. You have a hog on your node? Get Comcast to boot them, not punish every user of the service.
And yes, Rick assumes 95% of P2P traffic is illegal. I would love to see where he comes up with these numbers.
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| As would I, since I can't find it anywhere where 95% of the P2P traffic is illegal. I guess that's because there hasn't been any studies done to determine what P2P traffic is legal and what is not.
If Comcast really wanted to go after these hogs they would of done so. I am sure all the Comcast users would of been all for it. I know I would. Rather, they took the easy and lazy route and as a result there has been a lot of misunderstanding and negative press about this whole thing.
Comcast has the right to manage their network, but yet they haven't managed to kick the hogs off their network. One wonders why. I know I do sometimes.
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| The PirateBay, the undisputed leader or torrent search engines tells the whole story.
Just look at Piratebay and what is the most popular movers and how many seeders there are.
The Top 100 is nearly 100% illegal movies, music, television shows and software and given I didn't notice any, let alone 8 out of the 100, I would say that piracy is way more than 92% of residential P2P traffic.
»thepiratebay.org/top/all
It's not rocket science. Anyone denying the P2P traffic is primarily piracy is just looking to legitimize the piracy.
For the last 10 years everyone was talking about the "killer app".
The killer app is FREE STUFF and it's represents nearly ALL residential P2P traffic. |
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| said by Dogfather  :The Top 100 is nearly 100% illegal movies, music, television shows and software and given I didn't notice any, let alone 8 out of the 100, I would say that piracy is way more than 92% of residential P2P traffic. It's not rocket science. Anyone denying the P2P traffic is primarily piracy is just looking to legitimize the piracy. Its a never ending battle to fight piracy. About 10 years ago all of these torrents was simply "Napster" and "Grokster" before the RIAA and FCC shut them down. |
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said by Dogfather :The PirateBay, the undisputed leader or torrent search engines tells the whole story. Let's go the a site the is the main center for piracy and see if there is any piracy happening.  Look at all that piracy
Congratulations, you win the Firm Grasp of the Obvious award for this thread.
How many times do we have to repeat it it get people to understand. This is not a bout piracy, this is not about taking away Comcast right to manage their network.
This is about Comcast using a flawed method of managing their network. Blocking "Delaying" an entire protocol is not the right way to do this because ANY data transfer protocol can be used for illegal file trading.
If Comcast was serious about manging their network and stopping "bandwidth hogs" then it would be very simple to monitor usage and warn/disconnect hogs. We have all seen stories here about Comcast's invisible caps so they can do it already.
What I think happened here was some former Comcast executive now work for Sandvine and talked his buddy at Comcast into buying this "solution". now Comcast has spent six or seven figures on this equipment and it not going to take a loss. But will spend another seven figures on damage control, in the end we will pay for it in increased rates.
As far as piracy, it is not the ISP's job to stop piracy. Is it the phone companies job to stop credit card scammers or to report all criminal activity that takes place over the phone? |
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| No genius, tell us all what the most popular torrent search engines are then look at what the top items are.
Of course it's about piracy. Nearly all of the P2P traffic is piracy and EVERY popular search engine proves this is the case.
Anyone denying these simple truths is an idiot.
The ISP's only job is the run the ISP, not provide people with the means to pirate software, movies and music.
Meanwhile pirates have ruined P2P as ISPs respond to dipshits seeding their illegal crap 24/7 saturating upstream channels. So the 1 in a million who actually want a WoW update or Linux distro do so at a snail's pace. |
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| said by Dogfather :Meanwhile pirates have ruined P2P as ISPs respond to dipshits seeding their illegal crap 24/7 saturating upstream channels. So the 1 in a million who actually want a WoW update or Linux distro do so at a snail's pace. So you are ok with this dipshit response to dipshits seeding their illegal crap. 
Because it' the blocking "delaying" of the BT protocol that is causing the WoW update or Linux distro do so at a snail's pace.
I have downloaded plenty of Linux distro's and never had it come in slow until Comcast started blocking "delaying" things. |
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| No, I think they should respond by taking the Cablevision approach of capping excessive uploaders at 150kbps or set upload caps of say 5GB.
Stop the seeding, you stop the problem. |
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