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ltsnow

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XP SP3 (3311) standalone now available for download

If you want the standalone version of build 3111 you have to go to this site and go down to the post by Mt.Dew. The direct link is there. Sorry that I originally post the direct link, which is against the rules.

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Mele20
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Re: XP SP3 (3111) standalone now available for download

Thank you! It's downloading at 190KB/sec on a 5mbps connection..yuck. But I am glad to be able to get it even if it does take 30 minutes to download.

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Thanks It ... downloaded @ 731KB/Sec. Going to try this on MCE2005. Everythings imaged so no worries.
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anyone know if this can be slipstreamed?
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Re: XP SP3 (3111) standalone now available for download

said by tahoejeff See Profile :

anyone know if this can be slipstreamed?
Yes. Although I haven't done it yet (will tonight), I've done it with every other release and they all work.

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Downloaded it. Installed fine. But now the UXTheme-Patch-For-Windows-XP-SP2-Final patch doesn't work anymore.

Oh Well, back to the blah Windows XP look!

Silly me, decided to see if any other themes would work. Picked one, applied, total BLACK ness! So rather than play where's the menu, went into safe mode, chose the Admin icon & picked no at the pop up option box to run system restore and went back to just before I installed it. May try again AFTER deleting all of the extra theme files FIRST!
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Re: XP SP3 (3111) standalone now available for download

315MB in 4min 15sec
1.23MB/sec

Have'nt installed yet...
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ltsnow

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said by Santa Fe See Profile :

Downloaded it. Installed fine. But now the UXTheme-Patch-For-Windows-XP-SP2-Final patch doesn't work anymore.

Oh Well, back to the blah Windows XP look!

Silly me, decided to see if any other themes would work. Picked one, applied, total BLACK ness! So rather than play where's the menu, went into safe mode, chose the Admin icon & picked no at the pop up option box to run system restore and went back to just before I installed it. May try again AFTER deleting all of the extra theme files FIRST!
My my. All you have to do is repatch the uxtheme.dll file. It's simple and the way to do it is all over the internet.

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Re: XP SP3 (3111) standalone now available for download

said by ltsnow See Profile :

said by Santa Fe See Profile :

Downloaded it. Installed fine. But now the UXTheme-Patch-For-Windows-XP-SP2-Final patch doesn't work anymore.

Oh Well, back to the blah Windows XP look!

Silly me, decided to see if any other themes would work. Picked one, applied, total BLACK ness! So rather than play where's the menu, went into safe mode, chose the Admin icon & picked no at the pop up option box to run system restore and went back to just before I installed it. May try again AFTER deleting all of the extra theme files FIRST!
My my. All you have to do is repatch the uxtheme.dll file. It's simple and the way to do it is all over the internet.
I thought about that, just after I messed around. So I just decided to go back to before the SP3 install anyway, and wait for the final release version, THEN redo the uxtheme.dll.
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Mele20
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It sure took a long time to install. Then it said it had reboot. During shutdown I saw a brief flash of an error message from the host machine in the low resolution mode that an error message will show in when Explorer has crashed on the Host machine. Then I got a popup asking that I send a crash report to Microsoft. I did. Then DrWatson crashed and I sent a report on that and then clicked on the link provided for "more information" about the crash. That link told me that the crash was caused by Windows and I was able to provide feedback explaining exactly what I was doing when Explorer crashed. I hate Explorer crashing on the host because I can get Explorer running again via Task Manager and I can see the tray icons but nothing is clickable and Start is not there. So, I had shut down everything via Task Manager.

I noticed when the virtual machine that now has SP3 release candidate on it rebooted that the logo screen was tiny ...I wonder why?
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It actually XP SP3 v3311

Download was fast, installation was fairly quick, about 4 minutes.
No issues yet.
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Bob Anderson

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Installed this. Everything seems normal. Download took 10 minutes @ 528
kb/sec, installation about the same. Then defragging and registry cleaning
another 10.

Did the PCpitstop test, broadbandreports tweak test and ShieldsUP. All
normal.

The only thing that happened upon a restart after installation was the OE
icon was missing from the desktop.

It seems to have retained all other settings and all programs work.

Haven't decided yet to go back with an image or leave it.

XPSP3 doesn't seem to do much of anything other than update updates to SP2,
which I already had. There are some minor embellishments, but none seem
relevant for me.

I think it is a waste of time except for XP SP1 users.

No charge from me for this .

-Bob
Mele20
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Re: XP SP3 (3111) standalone now available for download

I went to bed shortly after installing it. Just now, I got on the computer to find ProcessGuard asking what to do about Windows Defragger which wanted to run. I should have thought about that last night as obviously you would need to run defrag after this installation. I told PG to let it run and then it didn't run.

PG is alerting very frequently now because everything has changed.
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Downloading as I type at 125KB/sec on a 3 Mbps connection . I guess I'll have to wait about a half an hour before installing .

EDIT: Thank you for heads up.

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Thanks!
Downloading now!
Great speed 2 boot!

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When the final of SP3 is released, is there any pressing reason why everyone absolutely "needs" this? I haven't seen anything posted in the threads about it that indicate that. What is it bringing to the table that is new and/or different? It basically seems to be a conglomeration of fixes and security updates since SP 2 was released, unless I've missed something.
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Re: XP SP3 (3111) standalone now available for download

La Luna, you got it.

Don't bother with it.

-Bob

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said by La Luna See Profile :

When the final of SP3 is released, is there any pressing reason why everyone absolutely "needs" this? I haven't seen anything posted in the threads about it that indicate that. What is it bringing to the table that is new and/or different? It basically seems to be a conglomeration of fixes and security updates since SP 2 was released, unless I've missed something.
It does add network security features and also adds a lot of hotfixes that were not readily available. In all there is just over 1000 changes. But for me the most important aspect is the ability to have a completely updated system on one disk. I do a lot Nlite builds and this is the only way to go.

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I'd been running the 3264 build and now installed the 3311 build. From what I can tell, the networking in the SP3 seems to be more in line with Vista. Many of the security and other network features in Vista are now in XP with SP3. It also appears that the XP Firewall has been beefed up a bit, to be more along the lines of that in Vista.

Of course this is just subjective, but it does appear to be a bit "peppier" in action, as well.

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i'm building a pc for a customer next week, and i want to slipstream this with her xp install cd. her install cd doesn't even have sp2, so this would save me the time/trouble of all the updates.
do you all think this is stable enough to put on a technophobe's pc? it sounds to me like this is nearly the final release.
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Re: XP SP3 (3111) standalone now available for download

said by tahoejeff See Profile :

i'm building a pc for a customer next week, and i want to slipstream this with her xp install cd. her install cd doesn't even have sp2, so this would save me the time/trouble of all the updates.
do you all think this is stable enough to put on a technophobe's pc? it sounds to me like this is nearly the final release.
No, I wouldn't install a beta OS to customer's machine, especially one that isn't technically inclined. The SP3 beta also timebomb in 6 months. So unless you planned to reinstall windows for her in 6 months then SP2 would be better.

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Re: XP SP3 (3111) standalone now available for download

thanks darkwish. i didn't know it was a time limited release.
guess i'll just slipstream sp2 for her
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Re: XP SP3 (3111) standalone now available for download

It won't bomb. You will be offered the Gold Master from WU which will upgrade this RC. I also assume Microsoft will allow upgrading via the Download center.

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Re: XP SP3 (3111) standalone now available for download

And your Microsoft cite for this Mele20 See Profile?

My concern is that you can easily revert in the non-slipstream case, but you cannot in a slipstream. This limits the options to zero for what can be done when SP3 goes RTM. If the decision is made that it can only be installed with a previous RC removed, something that a non-slipstream allows, then the slipstream folks are in trouble.

Finally, if the OS will not continue to run unless upgraded, or nags you constantly, how is this not a time bomb?

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said by darkwish See Profile :

said by tahoejeff See Profile :

i'm building a pc for a customer next week, and i want to slipstream this with her xp install cd. her install cd doesn't even have sp2, so this would save me the time/trouble of all the updates.
do you all think this is stable enough to put on a technophobe's pc? it sounds to me like this is nearly the final release.
No, I wouldn't install a beta OS to customer's machine, especially one that isn't technically inclined. The SP3 beta also timebomb in 6 months. So unless you planned to reinstall windows for her in 6 months then SP2 would be better.
I doubt that this is true. I never saw anything about this and for fun I moved my computer clock one year ahead and rebooted. No problems.

Anyway, the final will be out soon so this is a moot point.

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Re: XP SP3 (3111) standalone now available for download

said by ltsnow See Profile :

said by darkwish See Profile :

said by tahoejeff See Profile :

i'm building a pc for a customer next week, and i want to slipstream this with her xp install cd. her install cd doesn't even have sp2, so this would save me the time/trouble of all the updates.
do you all think this is stable enough to put on a technophobe's pc? it sounds to me like this is nearly the final release.
No, I wouldn't install a beta OS to customer's machine, especially one that isn't technically inclined. The SP3 beta also timebomb in 6 months. So unless you planned to reinstall windows for her in 6 months then SP2 would be better.
I doubt that this is true. I never saw anything about this and for fun I moved my computer clock one year ahead and rebooted. No problems.

Anyway, the final will be out soon so this is a moot point.
I stand corrected, it was only the beta's, not the RC's. Still, when the final comes out, you won't be able install it till you uninstall the previous SP3. And if it was slipstreamed... you can't. You'd probably have to do a repair install with SP3 Final slipstreamed cd.

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Downloaded fine. The install goes fine until it gets to the part where it wants to start up all the services to test them- it hangs right there.

Disabled and closed everything in the right side of the taskbar that was remotely security related. Then let it restore and did it again- with the same result.

Started the system in Safe Mode and it had the same results. System is doing fine with the third automatic backout and restore.

Might be just about anything causing the glitch. Since it wouldn't do it in Safe Mode I'm betting it is hardware related. I have an Nvidia Lanparty board with the hardware firewall active. Also running an SATA drive. I get a raid failure upon bootup for some reason for the last few days. I'm not running any raid drives.

This isn't to draw all of you out to try and figure this out. I'm going to wait for the full release then try it again. This is to let you know that at least one failure has happened, and some ballpark reasons why that might be.

My assumptions above as to why it is happening is just a bunch of guesses. Good to see it's going so well for everyone else.
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Re: XP SP3 (3111) standalone now available for download

I didn't know it started up all services during the install? I have a bunch of services disabled and it didn't complain and if it started the ones not disabled but not already started...I didn't see it do that. It installed very rapidly. I did notice that even with not much in the way of programs, my documents, mail, etc. on this computer that it had to be defragged immediately and the fragmentation was 33% which had to have been just from the install. The install increased the size of the virtual disk also. I want to install it on my XP Pro SP1 virtual machine but that virtual disk has a fixed size and I don't think I have enough space especially for a defrag afterwards.

As for the Raid error boot, I think that is your nVidia board. I have an nVidia board and I have two Sata 300 drives and I get that error at every boot since I got the machine two years ago. I don't do Raid either but in order to enable NCQ on the drives, this board required that I install the nVidia Raid drivers. Dell told me it was normal on an nVidia board to see that error at boot because a Raid setup is expected. But since you said you have only gotten the Raid error recently maybe your problem is something different.
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Thanks for the replies to my question everyone!

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There is no facility to slipstream this. That will have to wait for the final.

Also, it cannot be applied to an XP "Gold" release. It will only install if you are at least at Service Pack 1.

Finally, yes it is time bombed.

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Re: XP SP3 (3111) standalone now available for download

The service pack is slipstreamable, as I'm using windows xp + sp3 installed by a slipstreamed cd. Yes it won't install on XP Gold, but it will slipstream onto it.

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said by bcastner See Profile :

There is no facility to slipstream this. That will have to wait for the final.

Also, it cannot be applied to an XP "Gold" release. It will only install if you are at least at Service Pack 1.

Finally, yes it is time bombed.
You certainly can slipstream it. My system right now was slipstreamed yesterday. Also, I moved my clock ahead a year. No evidence of a timebomb.

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Being the 'patient' one I am I wish they'd just release the final already so I could install it. Then we can accuse them of rushing it out the door!

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said by takeahike See Profile :

Being the 'patient' one I am I wish they'd just release the final already so I could install it. Then we can accuse them of rushing it out the door!
LOL That will be inevitable won't it?
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Since installing this, defragger wants to run every 24 hours. How do stop this? I ran defragger after the install (although not immediately but when it popped up). ProcessGuard blocks it but I don't understand why defragger wants to run every 24 hours. I have never had that happen with SP2. Defragger never asks to run. I manually run it about 3 times a year on my host machine.

Plus, I installed this on a virtual machine. VMWare notifies me whenever the virtual machine needs defragging which, like the host, is usually about 3 times a year. Since I defragged shortly after installing this Service Pack 3, why does defragger want to run every 24 hours?

Edit: Defragger has tried to run two more times in the past hour. I denied it in ProcessGuard and then I went and manually had defrag do an analysis. The disk doesn't need defragging so why defragger keeps wanting to run I don't know.
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