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Mercurybird
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Hooks, TX
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Here is a solution for every one of you...

»www.magicjack.com

Everything they claim is true. I bought one. Flawless service and excellent audio quality.

Costs $40 to buy. After that it is free to use for a year. Unlimited use. At the end of the first year it is $29 for the next year.

I'm not affiliated with MagicJack in any way. I'm just telling you that you don't have to put up with the hassles and the monthly payments.

MagicJack is a VOIP killer. It's just that simple. A MagicJack and your cellphone is all you'll ever need.

Buy one today. I'm sure glad I did. I learned about it because it was in the signature of a poster in one of the forums here. I wish I could give him or her the credit and thanks they deserve. Whoever you are- THANK YOU!
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
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While Magic Jack may be ok for some.. to be honest, many people aren't going to put their lives and safety in the hands of a gimmick and a toy.

There are many people that simply aren't willing to monkey rig their phone service down to that level.. they want security of being able to pick up the phone and it being there.



bp23

@insightbb.com

reply to Mercurybird
Any device that has no true FAQ, contact, or info page is a fly by night. Just give your cash to a charity. You'll be further ahead. Several of their reviews are posted on rent-a-site search engines. Please.



Mercurybird
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join:2004-06-24
Hooks, TX
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reply to fiberguy
You're kidding me right?

I've never had Vonage or any other VOIP service. So I don't know what the features are that comes with it, or the voice quality. But I don't have to. I know what I'm getting with MagicJack. So if you think you're getting something better just because you're paying $30 a month for it- you keep keep paying $30 a month for it. It's not my money...

I wish you lived near me. I would let you come over to my house and call anyone and everyone all day and all night just so you can see for yourself. But hey! If you think it's just another ripoff trinket- carry on...

But on the other hand... it would only cost you $40 to find out. I can guarantee you that you would let the big V go to the wayside. I'm just telling you that I know from my own experience that a monthly VOIP charge is a thing of the past. Trust me, MagicJack is a VOIP killer. Just wait. You will see. Then you will think back and calculate all that money you spent when you didn't have to.

"Lives and safety? Gimmick and a toy? Monkey rig? Down to that level? Security?" Please! we're talking about the angst of the VOIP giants here. They are well on their way to becoming the monsters that they were hoping to replace. But if you think you are free from the things you mentioned just because you are paying $30 a month- carry on!
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fiberguy
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No.. I'm not kidding.

Not everyone, like I said, buys on price alone. To be honest, I like my Vonage, but I prefer POTS. Yes, I do want reliability. I'm sure MagicJack has worked for you.. I've seen the TV commercials as well. It's just not for me. (and many others)

Asides from the rest of what you said, since when did voip companies become the "giants"...?

MJ works for you.. and sure you can make phone calls and sure, the quality probably is there.. but what isn't? ... security. Who or what is looming over their head to ensure that your phone number will remain yours? Who or what is there to ensure that they just don't up and disappear one day? Who or what is there to ensure that they are providing you a certain level of QoS?

While VoiP doesn't have it either, it's why I also don't depend on them.I have vonage for some uses (mostly out of area inbound calling) and it does have it's purpose, but I don't depend on that line being there.. you can't guarantee MJ which is why I call it a gimmic... monkey rigging.. well, I say that because it's, well, it's monkey rigged to get it to work. People want phones where they pick it up, and it's there. Even VoIP for many is not desired.. they don't want a modem to reboot, they don't want to worry about cords coming undone.. the don't want to lose service in a power outage, and they don't want to lose phone when the internet goes down.

I could care less about MJ, VoIP, et all.. and honestly, I don't care about saving $20 on a phone line.. I honestly pay about $200+ a month on the amount of phone services I have.. most of it is from a traditional carrier, and not voip either.

There's one thing that is true about me.. I'm not a voip user that comes to a VoIP forum here, or anywhere, to post about "how to get my VoIP service to work again" .. I'm not a VoIP lover paying $30 a month.

MJ works for you.. and that's fine.. for millions of Americans, it won't. If it was the VoIP killer, I'm sure there would be more and more people using it. With all the stories of medical emergencies that wound up in tragedy, hoses that burned down, and other 'costly' events.. I'm not trusting of any service that isn't regulated.

You're also assuming that we're to a point where it's a comparison of Magic Jack against big evil $30 VoIP.. I guess POTS is gone already?

Roll your eyes all you want.. you love what you have.. enjoy it. I don't need the savings and won't put my family in that amount of Risk.

I'm curious, however, to hear other people, willing to go to this level as to use MJ for phone only. For the record, I've heard of MJ for quite some time and am not unaware of what it is.

The old saying goes.. you get what you pay for.

And here's what you get:

he allocation of a phone number to you does not constitute any transfer of title, ownership, license or other rights with regard to the phone number; and the phone number is not portable to other service providers. magicJack may, without any liability, refuse, change or terminate any phone number at anytime. If magicJack changes the phone number that has been allocated to you by magicJack, magicJack will notify you, stating the effective date of the change and your new phone number. If you do not wish to accept this new phone number, you are entitled to cancel this Agreement; however, you will not be eligible for any refund unless you terminate the Agreement within 30 days of purchase of the magicJack device and qualify for a refund as further described in Section 2 of this Agreement. magicJack will not be liable for any damages resulting from the change of the phone number.
and also...

You also understand and agree that use of the magicJack device and Software will include advertisements and that these advertisements are necessary for the magicJack device to work and for the service to be free in the first year of the agreement (and subsequent licenses to be at minimal cost). Advertisements will be served through the magicPage™ Software. magicPage™ Software attempts to serve local advertisements and classifieds using a completely automated process that enables us to effectively target dynamically changing content. Our computers may analyze the phone numbers you call in order to improve the relevance of the ads. We do not provide any personal information to our advertisers or third parties. magicJack has a policy of restricting advertisers that it believes are inappropriate, but it does not guarantee the accuracy or integrity of any advertisers and does not endorse any of the advertisements that may appear in connection with use of the magicJack device. You also understand and agree that use of the magicJack device and Software may include certain communications, such as service announcements, administrative messages and newsletters, and you will not be able to opt out of receiving them.
also...

THE magicJack DEVICE AND SOFTWARE ARE PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT ANY WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, WHETHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, WARRANTIES OF QUALITY, PERFORMANCE, NON-INFRINGEMENT, MERCHANTABILITY, OR FITNESS FOR USE OR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

magicJack MAKES NO WARRANTY REGARDING THE OPTIONAL FREE 911 EMERGENCY DIALING FEATURE PROVIDED. ALL CALLS MADE USING THE 911 EMERGENCY DIALING FEATURE ARE MADE AT THE CALLER'S RISK.

magicJack MAKES NO WARRANTY AS TO THE COMPLETION, CLARITY, OR OVERALL QUALITY OF ANY PARTICULAR CALL MADE USING THE SERVICE.

magicJack MAKES NO WARRANTY THAT ANY ERRORS IN THE SOFTWARE WILL BE CORRECTED.

magicJack MAKES NO WARRANTY ABOUT THE QUALITY OF ANY PRODUCTS, SERVICES, INFORMATION, OR THAT OTHER MATERIAL PURCHASED OR OBTAINED BY YOU THROUGH THE SERVICE WILL MEET YOUR EXPECTATIONS. ANY content DOWNLOADED OR OTHERWISE OBTAINED THROUGH THE USE OF THE SERVICE IS DONE AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION AND RISK AND YOU WILL BE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE TO YOUR COMPUTER SYSTEM OR LOSS OF DATA THAT RESULTS FROM THE DOWNLOAD OF ANY SUCH content.

NO ADVICE OR INFORMATION, WHETHER ORAL OR WRITTEN, OBTAINED BY YOU FROM magicJack OR THROUGH OR FROM THE SERVICE SHALL CREATE ANY WARRANTY NOT EXPRESSLY STATED IN THIS AGREEMENT.
I'm sure that most everyone here will agree with me that this is a toy and wouldn't put themselves at risk or through this as a sole calling device just to save a buck or twenty.


danawhitaker
Space...The Final Frontier
Premium
join:2002-03-02
Urbandale, IA

Don't forget the whole section in the faq/tos that basically says their 911 service is completely unreliable and you shouldn't count on it in the event of an emergency and they're not liable if it doesn't work, yadayada.

Having just had to call 911 last week, I can say that I'd never choose any phone service that wasn't reliable in regards to that. When you're in the middle of a medical emergency, or trying to help a family member who is, you don't have time to screw around with that kind of thing not working. And you may think it will never happen to you, or that nothing can happen that's so bad that you'd need it, or that you're perfectly healthy, etc, but you just never know. If you're willing to put your own life or the lives of your family in jeopardy by not having working 911 service, good for you I guess. I remember having an argument a few years ago on here with someone about the 911 issue, they said they'd never need to call 911 for anything. I wonder if they ever had to eat those words.
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amigo_boy

join:2005-07-22
Reviews:
·magicjack.com

said by danawhitaker:

I remember having an argument a few years ago on here with someone about the 911 issue, they said they'd never need to call 911 for anything. I wonder if they ever had to eat those words.
I think it's human nature to think "I'll never need it." I've been thinking about turning off my landline, and use magicjack.com. I'd dismissed the 911 thing. But, after reading your post it makes me remember the time a construction crew cut the natural gas line in my backyard 10 years ago. They took off running. I was the one to call 911 (in a panic). That would have been a lot more stressful (if not disastrous) if I had to spend 10-20 minutes figuring out how to contact the right people.

Mark

fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
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To be honest.. let me chime in with the OTHER side of the coin here.

I did state that I'd not depend on Magic Jack for phone.. and I stand by that. HOWEVER, some people use a basic measure rate line (usually about $7 a month of abouts) for a lifeline service and then use voip service for about $25 a month or less.

If *I* were using that kind of setup, (MR landline and VoIP) then maybe I'd consider MagicJack as the "use and abuse" line for long distance and some local calling.

Would I drop every thing else for it? no. It requires an active computer to be on. It has limited features, it still requires a broadband access, and the rest.

But, it has too many down-falls like not owning the number, not even being guaranteed that you can keep the number.. etc.

Just clarifying.


patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

reply to fiberguy

said by fiberguy:

You also understand and agree that use of the magicJack device and Software will include advertisements and that these advertisements are necessary for the magicJack device to work and for the service to be free in the first year of the agreement (and subsequent licenses to be at minimal cost). Advertisements will be served through the magicPage™ Software. magicPage™ Software attempts to serve local advertisements and classifieds using a completely automated process that enables us to effectively target dynamically changing content. Our computers may analyze the phone numbers you call in order to improve the relevance of the ads. We do not provide any personal information to our advertisers or third parties. magicJack has a policy of restricting advertisers that it believes are inappropriate, but it does not guarantee the accuracy or integrity of any advertisers and does not endorse any of the advertisements that may appear in connection with use of the magicJack device. You also understand and agree that use of the magicJack device and Software may include certain communications, such as service announcements, administrative messages and newsletters, and you will not be able to opt out of receiving them.
also...

Heh, spyware funded VOIP. Sounds like something from the dotcom era. Anyone remember AllAdvantage?

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