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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
| So What? If Sony bribed Toshiba to drop HD-DVD then Sony was doing Toshiba a favor. With just about all of the major studios dropping HD-DVD, as well as video rental and other retailers dropping HD-DVD having pretty much sealed the fate of the format, Sony could have left Toshiba hanging with nothing.
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join:2002-04-10
1 edit | Re: So What? Well two major studios still continued to back HD-DVD. Also, HD-DVD has things that Blu-Ray does not. One was the ability for players to go online, shop, watch previews, and special director commentaries. Blu-Ray players lack this interface. Still, as you mentioned, most studios jumped ship. However, I imagine if Toshiba wanted to, they could have dragged the battle out longer. It might have been a losing one, but sometimes wars are not about winners. It's about who comes out on top. If Toshiba wanted to, they could drag it out to the point consumers would have backed off both products, costing Sony a lot of money. Personally, I think this joint venture and working together sounds good. Sometimes, people got to lay down their pride and find other means to go about business. Seems to me Toshiba and Sony have worked out a compromise in which they both win. Congrats. | |
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Zeb
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join:2000-07-10
Lewisville, TX
| Re: So What? said by jc100  :Also, HD-DVD has things that Blu-Ray does not. One was the ability for players to go online, shop, watch previews... That must be the killer feature! I'm glad my DVD player supported DIVX, because that was revolutionary!  | |
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join:2002-07-14
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| Re: So What? Umm, DivX support is still handy. It's nice to be able to take a clip that you've downloaded and put it on a DVD and play it without having to convert it. It's nice to use since it does provide better compression and quality (though MPEG-4 ASP isn't as good a quality as MPEG-4 AVC)
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DivX
Now that other form of DIVX (Digital Video Express) that Circuit City had where you could rent a DVD for a week or so, and then the DVD wouldn't play anymore until you paid more more. That was a horrible idea that should have died on the drawing board.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIVX_%28Di···press%29 | |
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banditws6
Shrinking Time and Distance
join:2001-08-18
Naples, FL
·Comcast
| Re: So What? said by nanoflower :Now that other form of DIVX (Digital Video Express) that Circuit City had where you could rent a DVD for a week or so, and then the DVD wouldn't play anymore until you paid more more. That was a horrible idea that should have died on the drawing board. I think that was the DIVX he was talking about. 
I cheered the day Circuit City announced that DIVX was dead.
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| said by jc100 : Also, HD-DVD has things that Blu-Ray does not. One was the ability for players to go online, shop, watch previews, and special director commentaries. Yes...I will miss the ability to get Sly Stallones profound commentaries. I will also miss the ability to shop for all of my Stallone/Seagal/Snipes gear from the comfort of my DVD player!!!! | |
| | alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| said by jc100 :Also, HD-DVD has things that Blu-Ray does not. One was the ability for players to go online, shop, watch previews, and special director commentaries. I think all Media Players and STB's should have an Ethernet connection. Not necessarily to go OnLine, but for the Networking capabilities. With the big Hard Drives you can store all your Media and play it anywhere you want in your house, including your big HDTV....Apple TV move over! | |
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Jwobot
join:2002-08-14
Sterling Heights, MI | watching previews and special director commentaries is just fluff stuff. The main appetite is what it's all about. | |
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javaMan
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join:2002-07-15
San Luis Obispo, CA
1 edit | Re: So What? said by Derspankster :said by pnh102 :If Sony bribed Toshiba to drop HD-DVD then Sony was doing Toshiba a favor. With just about all of the major studios dropping HD-DVD, as well as video rental and other retailers dropping HD-DVD having pretty much sealed the fate of the format, Sony could have left Toshiba hanging with nothing. The question is "which came first?" It's not beyond comprehension that the deal with Sony was struck before the studios dropped HD-DVD, not after. Just because it was announced after doesn't mean it wasn't done before and the studios made their announcement with full prior knowledge. What difference does it make? If they decided to scrap it in order to do a deal with Sony, so be it. It's not illegal or even unethical. It was their technology to do with as they pleased. Those who are now stuck with HD players might be understandably pissed but that's life. There was no guarantee HD would have won out in the end anyway. So for whatever the reason, they are out of luck. Just for a different reason.
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Derspankster
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join:2003-02-12
Marion, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
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| Re: So What? said by javaMan :said by Derspankster :said by pnh102 :If Sony bribed Toshiba to drop HD-DVD then Sony was doing Toshiba a favor. With just about all of the major studios dropping HD-DVD, as well as video rental and other retailers dropping HD-DVD having pretty much sealed the fate of the format, Sony could have left Toshiba hanging with nothing. The question is "which came first?" It's not beyond comprehension that the deal with Sony was struck before the studios dropped HD-DVD, not after. Just because it was announced after doesn't mean it wasn't done before and the studios made their announcement with full prior knowledge. What difference does it make? If they decided to scrap it in order to do a deal with Sony, so be it. It's not illegal or even unethical. It was their technology to do with as they pleased. Those who are now stuck with HD players might be understandably pissed but that's life. There was no guarantee HD would have won out in the end anyway. So for whatever the reason, they are out of luck. Just for a different reason. Doesn't make any difference. It was just an observation on how it might have played out. Fact is, I do own a HD DVD player. I frankly haven't been exactly blown away with HD disk content but it does a great job upconverting my collection of DVD's. I spent my money early and guessed wrong. No big deal except for the fact that I won't spend it again for a Blu Ray.
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javaMan
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join:2002-07-15
San Luis Obispo, CA
| Re: So What? said by Derspankster :. . . No big deal except for the fact that I won't spend it again for a Blu Ray. Sure you will. It may take to time, but you will.
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C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL
 ·Verizon FIOS
| HD-DVD offered more extras, more high definition extras, and more audio tracks/languages than BluRay movies did, in spite of BluRay's often hyped storage space advantage.
HD-DVD enjoyed region-free capability, which meant that importing movies was no longer a constant burden like it is with DVD and BluRay. And most of the profile updates thus far on the BluRay front have been to add in what HD-DVD had from the word 'go'. BluRay basically gives movie producers an excuse to double/triple dip on us again by releasing initial releases of movies without any extras, only to come back like a year later and release a "deluxe/limited" edition with all the extras that we initially wanted and charge more money. Oh, and you'll need to buy a new player every time Sony decides to release a new profile. Sony has a revision fetish that borders on asinine, having already released about six versions of Memory Stick, with BD 2.0 already set to release and talks of a 2.1 spec already being thought up of. And other than the PS3, there isn't a single stand-alone player that will upgrade to BD2. Sony will be able to pull all sorts of software voodoo to make BD2 work on the PS3 because of the hard drive, a luxury most (if not all) stand-alone players don't have.
It's funny how Sony's music dept. is talking about removing the DRM in their music CD's, where Sony on the BluRay front adds more DRM to their format than anything before it. And Fox obviously chose to support BD for that, with nearly every new release they put out forcing everyone to update their players or not watch the movie at all. 
I myself am going to miss HD-DVD, because more of the movies I cared about seeing in HD were either not on BluRay, or not done right on BluRay. Not everyone wants to see the same freaking Disney movies or emoma--err, Spiderman 3 all over again.
If I could right now, my money would be going to invest in LG's dual-format player, so that I can at least still be able to enjoy watching movies from both formats until there are finally no more HD-DVD titles. And/or any dual-format reader drives that there may be on the market, so that if/when I buy a BluRay burner I can then at least rip the HD-DVD's and put them on BluRay (when their spec decides to finally catch up). | |
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