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superdog
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reply to Angryguy
Re: [General] Clearwire blocks everything

said by Angryguy :

Warmcoke.
I do have a problem with my ISP monitoring what I am doing and throttling band with. I pay for an allocated bandwith so I should be able to use that bandwidth. If they want to cap it fine, cap it at the 1.5 mbps I pay for.
As an owner of a wireless ISP (WISP), I thought I would mention a few things about what Clearwire is doing, and my thoughts on it.

I do not agree with blocking ports. I also think that it is insane that just trying to upload a few pictures to WalMart gets you capped. These are all NORMAL activities while using the internet.

We allow our users to do almost anything they want, and as long as they use their connection without being a hog, it works.

We do have a policy of NO peer to peer (Limewire, Bit torrent etc.) on our network. This fact is mentioned and stated right up front before they sign up. We are adamant about this, and let everyone know so there are no surprises after the service is installed. This way they can find another provider if they need to use those programs.

Without trying to make you angry, I want to explain a few things about how ISP's work and the service they provide.

When you pay your monthly fees to access the internet, it does entitle you to use your connection, it is however, a consumer grade connection to the internet. This is a shared connection by you and the other users of this pipe.

Consumer grade connections are generally a "best effort" setup. The reason for this is the business model most ISP's use. Lets say your connection speeds are advertised as 1.5mbps up/down and your monthly cost is $40?.

The payment of $40 allows you to use this pipe whenever you are using the internet. It does not and can not give you access to all 1.5mbps 24/7. You could purchase this right if you really need that much bandwidth, but it will cost you around $400 to $900 a month (T1-dedicated 1.5mbps symmetrical) depending on where you are located. Higher speed bandwidth is even more expensive, with a slight price break above say 10mbps?. A 10mbps symmetrical metro Ethernet drop where I am located costs me $4600 a month. I let some of my customers use that 10mbps, but it will depend on how many people are online. If they are one of the few users online at that time, my system will allow them to burst up to that limit.

This business model is called over-subscription, with the idea being that if 200 users are hooked up, only 40 to 50 may be on at any one time using the pipe. The problem comes into play when ISP's get greedy and put too many users on one pipe.

I am in business to make $$, and if I don't make $$, I won't be here for long.

said by Angryguy :

If they want to cap it fine, cap it at the 1.5 mbps I pay for.
If I were to give you 1.5mbps uncapped 24/7 for $40 and pay $400 for it, it may be a good deal on your part, but I won't be around very long to provide you with this exchange.
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seejaywhy
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Excellent post, Tim. I feel the wanna be incumbents such as clearwire should be advocating customer education on topics such as over-subscription.. most people still don't understand that the various consumer wireline flavors are delivered under very similar models.

Consumers- Become familiar with CIR (Committed Information Rate).
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