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waynemr

join:2002-01-28
Madison, WI

reply to pnh102
Re: Great!

You know, I was thinking the exact thing. If it is that easy, what sort of a house of cards have we built?

I'm curious if everything had been in IP6, if it would have been a problem? Doesn't IP6 include some authentication mechanisms that are absent in IP4?


pnh102
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said by waynemr See Profile :

I'm curious if everything had been in IP6, if it would have been a problem? Doesn't IP6 include some authentication mechanisms that are absent in IP4?
From what I can conclude... IPv6 is the gallium arsenide of the network world... like the "semiconductor of the future... always has been, and always will be."

As for authentication... I would hope that there is a better way to secure IP address blocks... or else we are in for a lot worse trouble.
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rahvin112

join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT

For all you paranoid that some country is going to do this to shutdown sites they disagree with, consider for a moment that it won't take very many phone calls to you ISP before they and the backbone operators blacklist the entire netblock for the country in question.

So if they want to shut down some site they can accomplish it for a short period, but afterwards the entire country or ISP responsible will be suddenly without routeable internet addresses and all the citizens could access would be in the country that tried this tactic. Given the seriousness of poisoning the IP stack it wouldn't be long before ARIN acted to permanently revoke the IP addresses of the offending computers and it would likely be a long time before said country could route to much of the rest of the world as each ISP would have to take down their blacklisting.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to pnh102
said by pnh102 See Profile :

As for authentication... I would hope that there is a better way to secure IP address blocks... or else we are in for a lot worse trouble.
BGP (the internet's routing protocol) is as unsecure as SMTP email. Its amazing we don't have more problems. Both need to die. If this was the 1970s, this would be a case of someone with a blue box seriously screwing up a telco switch. There is a reason SS7 is out of band today, why is BGP still in band?


LilYoda
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said by patcat88 See Profile :

why is BGP still in band?
Know of many other routing protocols that can handle that many routes, spread on that many autonomous systems? I'm not even sure IS-IS can...
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