Am I missing something here? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20058175 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:36:02 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:36:02 EDT Re: Am I missing something here? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20075098 wingnut28 : At my parent's house they had cable outlets in all 5 bedrooms plus living room, family room and kitchen. They paid $30 a month (low fee due to being early customers when cable first came to the area many years ago.)

Every cheap tv and vcr in the house could receive all 80 channels and you could record a channel and watch another.

Now at my house we pay a lot more as basic cable is around $60 a month, but then I added digital channels. Now you need a stupid vcr sized box. The result is only 2 tvs get all the channels and 3 others do not. It is only $5 a month for a box ($10 for HD capable) but it is not only the money but the inconvenience factor. They (Charter) do provide nice remotes with the box (and charge $29 install fee) which can mostly replace your original remote.

The prices seem somewhat reasonable, but when you add the additional fees for the digital channels, the extra fee per box (and have to find a place for the box) it starts being a hefty charge.

My single HD tv will tune in these digital channels, but is blocked by encryption (except for one weird sport channel.)

Of course, you then need a digital video recorder to work with this. They are nice but add another $15 a month to the bill.

I fear we are going to become a 2 tier nation, those that can afford full tv and high speed internet, and those that can't.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20075098 Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:11:10 EDT Re: Am I missing something here? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20063832 RadioDoc : Hey, there is as much proof of that as there is of anything you post. No such 'extensive commercials' were run here, unless you mean the ones which imply that you have to sign up for cable to continue watching TV, which is exactly what I posted.

Nice try though. I'll save the next direct mail piece with the proof of what I posted. You won't respond to that though since you never do when discredited.

Had you actually read what I posted, the advertising materials involve Comcast using the DTV conversion and resulting confusion to hook people into signing up for unnecessary, expensive digital cable, not buy TVs or NTSC-ATSC converter boxes. Your love affair with Comcast seems to have impaired your reading comprehension.

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said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Comcast is not wasting this opportunity to cash in on the confusion by telling people that the only way they'll be able to continue to watch TV is to sign up for cable, and not just basic cable either...
Oh really?
And, I suppose you'll now be able to produce one shred of proof to back up that statement?
A link..or anything to show that comcast has EVER made that claim?

I won't be holding my breath..Doc.

The fact of the matter is, Comcast has ran extensive commercials telling customers that they don't need to be running out buying new boxes and tv's.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20063184 Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:50:24 EDT Re: Am I missing something here? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20061689 nanoflower : Ugh. I really thought Comcast might not go this way. They have already moved a few channels every year to digital, but now it seems they want to move most of them there. I hate the idea because it's impossible to watch a channel and record another one at the same time. It's also a hassle to set up a VCR to record with a digital box which is why I returned my set top box long ago.

I wonder if they are also going to start charging people rent for the digital settop boxes they are going to force the customer to receive the expanded basic channels. I know they charge for any extra settop boxes so anyone with two or more TVs would end up paying money to watch those expanded channels on their second TV. So this move would actually end up making Comcast more money from the expanded services they can offer from the reclaimed frequencies and the rental fees. What a great deal... For them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20061689 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:41:12 EDT Re: Am I missing something here? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20059875 anon : Yeah, the big "slanted" cable TV sales pitch begins.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20059875 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:44:55 EDT Re: Am I missing something here? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20059363 RadioDoc : Comcast is not wasting this opportunity to cash in on the confusion by telling people that the only way they'll be able to continue to watch TV is to sign up for cable, and not just basic cable either...
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said by YukonHawk See Profile :

b1001....That's what I thought also. In reply to ....

Am I missing something here?

I thought the great digital TV transition on February 17, 2009 only effects over the air broadcast TV, not cable TV?
as far as the law is concerned it does. but cable has its own plans to reclaim bandwidth that is wasted on analog tv.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20059175 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:34:57 EDT Re: Am I missing something here? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20059048 YukonHawk : b1001....That's what I thought also. In reply to ....

Am I missing something here?

I thought the great digital TV transition on February 17, 2009 only effects over the air broadcast TV, not cable TV?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20059048 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:10:01 EDT Re: Am I missing something here? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058189 Fubar :
said by b10010011 See Profile :

I thought the great digital TV transition on February 17, 2009 only effects over the air broadcast TV, not cable TV?
You are correct... But Comcast wants to also go all digital.. Or close to it...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058189 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:38:05 EDT Am I missing something here? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058175 b10010011 : I thought the great digital TV transition on February 17, 2009 only effects over the air broadcast TV, not cable TV?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058175 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:35:27 EDT