Re: Comcrap in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20058634 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:19:33 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:19:33 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20222708 RadioDoc : AIYEEEEEEEE! Look! The Thread Zombifier is here! RUN RUN RUN AWAY. RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!

(those comments were a month old)
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by S_engineer See Profile :

said by PGHammer See Profile :

* The reason *for* these devices is that, for economy or *lifeline basic* customers, *any* STB (even the super-cheapies such as the Motorola DCT-711) is a non-starter.
There's *always* a cost to the subscriber. Comcrap dosent offer a free lifeline service,so this would be added as a fee. Plus, to think that this rfp expense won't be passed on to the consumer is niave!
B.S. My parents got a DCT700 last year at no cost or change in their bill. Comcast ate the cost in order to convert all the people still on analog STBs in Philadelphia. This new dongle is an even cheaper, simpler version of the DCT700.
QFT

Datapoint: when Prince George's County (MD) went ADS, we had a single analog converter box on our single non-cable-ready TV (a supremely-large floor-model 25-incher in an upstairs bedroom). Comcast replaced it with a digital STB (in fact, a DCT-25xx model), and the bill actually went *down*.

This is the only TV that can view VOD directly (same for channels in the 100+ range that are in Limited Basic). Analog STB was replaced with digital STB, and the bill decreases. (In fact, that is usually the case in ADS areas; analog STBs are replaced with digital STBs, the customer gets more, not fewer, channels, yet due to rate changes, the customer pays *less* to Comcast despite the increased number of channels.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20076431 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:22:58 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20069455 anon :
said by jester121 See Profile :

I'm pretty sure that the phrase "lifeline basic" should be left in the arena of telephone service; I'm pretty sure that cable TV is still a luxury.
Learn your history, bud.
Cable TV exists today because it was a necessity, not a luxury. Industry just figured out they could sell it to folks who didn't need it (those with OTA reception).

Cable TV needs re-regulation. There are still millions of customers who have no other choice than cable, and never will.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20069455 Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:36:43 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20064652 kyler13 :
said by PGHammer See Profile :

VZ's low-end box is the same DCT-711 that Comcast deploys in Motorola areas.
I'm talking about the digital adapter listed on their website that doesn't support ondemand, not the SD STB. Is that what the DCT-711 is? I didn't think Comcast had such an option.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20064652 Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:13:04 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20062517 patcat88 : Well cable TV is the ONLY source of entertainment for many sectors of the population, such as hospitals, nursing homes, and prisons (group homes, juvenile centers, and low to maximum security prisons).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20062517 Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:02:05 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20061822 Georgiaboy :
said by fiberguy See Profile :

Will ANYONE ever be happy? Sheesh!
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Has anybody noticed how this will only affect 20% of the footprint? I'm certainly not worried. I honestly don't think anyone in my market should be.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20061822 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:59:44 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20061785 dvd536 :
said by Ebolla See Profile :

said by S_engineer See Profile :

There's *always* a cost to the subscriber.
5 years ago, Internet 1meg=$42.95
Today, Internet 6meg+powerboost=$42.95

Thats a huge differance in the cost increase huh. Not EVERYTHING is auto charged for more.
Only because the video subs are subsidizing HSI.
video subs get a rate hike everytime the wind blows.
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momma always said...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20060770 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:03:12 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20060301 fiberguy :
said by S_engineer See Profile :

said by PGHammer See Profile :

* The reason *for* these devices is that, for economy or *lifeline basic* customers, *any* STB (even the super-cheapies such as the Motorola DCT-711) is a non-starter.
There's *always* a cost to the subscriber. Comcrap dosent offer a free lifeline service,so this would be added as a fee. Plus, to think that this rfp expense won't be passed on to the consumer is niave!
Neither does phone.. the TAXPAYERS offer the free service.

I know what you mean, but I wanted it to be PERFECTLY clear that phone does NOT give you anything free.. they are still paid.. and that lifeline service isn't 100% free to all people. Some people go above the level of service and receive a baseline credit.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20060301 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:48:13 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20060285 fiberguy : Will ANYONE ever be happy? Sheesh!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20060285 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:46:49 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20060009 TKJunkMail :
said by S_engineer See Profile :

said by PGHammer See Profile :

* The reason *for* these devices is that, for economy or *lifeline basic* customers, *any* STB (even the super-cheapies such as the Motorola DCT-711) is a non-starter.
There's *always* a cost to the subscriber. Comcrap dosent offer a free lifeline service,so this would be added as a fee. Plus, to think that this rfp expense won't be passed on to the consumer is niave!
B.S. My parents got a DCT700 last year at no cost or change in their bill. Comcast ate the cost in order to convert all the people still on analog STBs in Philadelphia. This new dongle is an even cheaper, simpler version of the DCT700.
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said by Ebolla See Profile :

5 years ago, Internet 1meg=$42.95
Today, Internet 6meg+powerboost=$42.95

Thats a huge differance in the cost increase huh. Not EVERYTHING is auto charged for more.
None of these points are REMOTELY releavent..the topic is:
Comcast's $35 Digital Conversion Dongle
and the staement was this RFP will be passed on to the consumer..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20059433 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:24:53 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058873 Ebolla : yes my costs for channels have gone up, but so has the number of channels and the amount of vod content. I now also have 2 DVR's and TiVo services. My internet costs have stayed the same and my phone services actually dropped in cost.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058873 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:37:54 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058737 S_engineer :
said by Ebolla See Profile :

said by S_engineer See Profile :

There's *always* a cost to the subscriber.
5 years ago, Internet 1meg=$42.95
Today, Internet 6meg+powerboost=$42.95

Thats a huge differance in the cost increase huh. Not EVERYTHING is auto charged for more.
What was your fee structure 5 years ago compared to today?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058737 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:09:34 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058710 Ebolla :
said by S_engineer See Profile :

There's *always* a cost to the subscriber.
5 years ago, Internet 1meg=$42.95
Today, Internet 6meg+powerboost=$42.95

Thats a huge differance in the cost increase huh. Not EVERYTHING is auto charged for more. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058710 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:04:36 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058657 PGHammer :
said by kyler13 See Profile :

said by morbo See Profile :

said by PGHammer See Profile :

and at no cost to the subscriber.
except for 24/7 365 days/yr electricity needed to power the device, of course.
Which probably operates in the noise of your electric bill, certainly nowhere near the $4-$5/month you might get charged for a full service box.

Doesn't Verizon FIOS have a similar watered-down box that they charge $1 less per month than the digital STB?
VZ's low-end box is the same DCT-711 that Comcast deploys in Motorola areas.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058657 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:56:49 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058634 kyler13 :
said by morbo See Profile :

said by PGHammer See Profile :

and at no cost to the subscriber.
except for 24/7 365 days/yr electricity needed to power the device, of course.
Which probably operates in the noise of your electric bill, certainly nowhere near the $4-$5/month you might get charged for a full service box.

Doesn't Verizon FIOS have a similar watered-down box that they charge $1 less per month than the digital STB?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058634 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:54:10 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058500 S_engineer :
said by PGHammer See Profile :

* The reason *for* these devices is that, for economy or *lifeline basic* customers, *any* STB (even the super-cheapies such as the Motorola DCT-711) is a non-starter.
There's *always* a cost to the subscriber. Comcrap dosent offer a free lifeline service,so this would be added as a fee. Plus, to think that this rfp expense won't be passed on to the consumer is niave!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058500 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:28:59 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058494 jester121 : I'm pretty sure that the phrase "lifeline basic" should be left in the arena of telephone service; I'm pretty sure that cable TV is still a luxury.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058494 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:28:06 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058418 morbo :
said by PGHammer See Profile :

and at no cost to the subscriber.
except for 24/7 365 days/yr electricity needed to power the device, of course.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058418 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:13:11 EDT Re: Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058258 PGHammer : The idea (per Steve Burke) is for Comcast to provide these devices *instead* of STBs for the most basic of outlets, and at no cost to the subscriber. The reason *for* these devices is that, for economy or *lifeline basic* customers, *any* STB (even the super-cheapies such as the Motorola DCT-711) is a non-starter. Also, some customers don't want an STB at all, regardless of price. These external devices will *not* be HD-capable, any more than the DCT-7xx boxes are (they aren't), so if you want HD (and are a Comcast customer) you will *still* need the bigger STB. The one advantage cable has (over satellite or telcos) is that, by and large, no STB is needed for the lowest-end channels. Comcast in particular, wants to keep that advantage (and you can best believe that smaller cable providers will want these same devices once they get developed, as they are in an even bigger pickle than Comcast regarding the transition).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058258 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:50:24 EDT Comcrap http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20058187 S_engineer : So if I read between the lines....I see Comcrap wants to raise my rates even more to pay for this "digital turnover recovery fee". Plus I will have the added advantage of paying more on a monthly basis to see the cooking channel, QVC, and Lifetime in Hi-def?

Am I reading this right?
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