 DogfatherPremium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA 1 edit | Controlling P2P wasn't their aim It was normalizing traffic shaping for a future double dipping for content delivery.
How do I know this you ask?
Cause if they wanted to control seeding, just cap the upload after "excessive use" just like Cablevision has been doing for years. Stop the seeding, stop the problem.
But that solution wouldn't satisfy their ultimate goal which is introduce traffic shaping under the guise of fighting piracy, then slowly expand it to fight Google, iTunes, Amazon Unbox and other competitors of Comcast. |
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 RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | Exactly. |
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 | reply to Dogfather said by Dogfather:It was normalizing traffic shaping for a future double dipping for content delivery. Bingo. This is nothing more than an end run around of the NN issue. |
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 | reply to Dogfather said by Dogfather:But that solution wouldn't satisfy their ultimate goal which is introduce traffic shaping under the guise of fighting piracy, then slowly expand it to fight Google, iTunes, Amazon Unbox and other competitors of Comcast. Wasn't that Ed, the phone guy, that wanted to double charge Google et al for traversing the telco's pipes on the way to the customer? |
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 RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | SBC Ed retired and took that silly idea with him. Comcast Brian, however, is still at the helm and hell-bent on keeping competition off his systems. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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 DogfatherPremium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA 3 edits | reply to PowerBoosted Double dipping wouldn't be the first idea ripped from the telco's "f the consumer" playbook.
Meanwhile I get to watch NCTA's Net neutrality is a scheme of the Silicon Valley Fat Cats commercials because cable is looking to protect me from the evil doers at Google and Amazon.
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPIYxtjLFeI
Yeah right. Cable is just aching to charge twice for delivery of the same content and Comcast's plan is well in the works. |
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 RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 1 edit | Those are by the NCTA, which pretty much shows how much the cable TV industry is scared shitless by the possibility we'll be easily bypassing their overpriced video on demand very soon. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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 DogfatherPremium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA | Edited after seeing the "paid for by" tag at the bottom. I've seen them on Cox, but I haven't yet seen them run on TWC.
But it's so ludicrous you would think it was one of those SNL parodies. |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | reply to Dogfather At least that is better than that stupid (and horrid sounding) "God Save the Internet" song.
*puke* -- This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate! |
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 RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | reply to Dogfather Indeed. Of course they've pretty much been a parody of themselves for awhile.
I hooked up my laptop to our 42" Toshiba LCD HDTV last night and tested Netflix's movies-on-demand offering. It was every bit as good as standard digital cable quality-wise and started playing in less than 30 seconds on my 6 meg DSL connection. Not one single buffering incident for 100 minutes of the movie. And it is a "free" adjunct to our $15/mo 3 at a time account. Amazon's Unbox works great with our TiVo, too. Cable is becoming more and more irrelevant. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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 DogfatherPremium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA 2 edits | I've been doing XBOX 360 downloads for quite a while and the movie is ready to play within 10-15 seconds and no buffering, even at 720P HD.
I have ATV 2.0 but haven't rented anything yet. I'd try Amazon unbox via TiVo but they don't offer HD and after seeing TiVo go in the direction they're going refuse to buy updated hardware from them.
All in all I'm fairly content with cable but couldn't be happier that Comcast traded the local cable system to Time Warner to immediately dropped prices, doubled speeds and increased content. But if it weren't for HowardTV I'd drop them for DirecTV in about 2 seconds, even with their high out of pocket equipment costs.
Comcast sucked serious ass in every way a cable company can suck ass. |
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 extreme50Formerly TwoKDialupPremium join:2002-06-07 Coloma, MI | reply to RadioDoc said by RadioDoc:... I hooked up my laptop to our 42" Toshiba LCD HDTV last night and tested Netflix's movies-on-demand offering. It was every bit as good as standard digital cable quality-wise and started playing in less than 30 seconds on my 6 meg DSL connection. You still watch SD? With all the Comcast HD channels here in rural backwater Coloma, I can't remember the last time I watched anything in SD. Yech!
For movies, I just hit the Comcast OnDemand button and choose the HD version. Starts instantly and plays flawlessly too. -- Comcast has spoiled me rotten! |
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 RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | No, we watch HD. Was using the Netflix test as an example of what is coming, and what will soon kick cable companies asses. Apple TV already can access HD content and the rest are coming online. Best part? No crappy Comcast VoD selection limits or choppy, overcompressed picture. Consider yourself lucky that you are on an almost new system. In Chicagoland and a lot of other markets your experience is not experienced. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK Reviews:
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| reply to Dogfather That's exactly right. This whole push towards capping/blocking/pay per byte etc are all means to the same end: Block competition from providing video services to consumers that could undermine Comcast's profits.
If they can filter/tamper/block (er, I mean "Manage the network") they can prevent their captive users from being able to use or afford a competitor's service--- and all the while tout the reliability of their own video services. -- "Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!) |
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 extreme50Formerly TwoKDialupPremium join:2002-06-07 Coloma, MI | reply to RadioDoc said by RadioDoc: ... Consider yourself lucky that you are on an almost new system. In Chicagoland and a lot of other markets your experience is not experienced. A very wise Chicago 'friend' of mine once told me that if I didn't like my broadband options that I should move. Maybe you should move to Coloma? Whoa, what the hell was I thinking.  -- Comcast has spoiled me rotten! |
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 RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | I don't have to. We have competition here, and it kicks Comcast's ass. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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 deadiPremium join:2001-08-26 Perry, OH Reviews:
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| reply to Dogfather Yes, I believe this is just a front for things to come. Capping traffic is not the answer though. That would limit anyone that would like IPTV. I think we should look at the number of connections to a single ip though. Or just cap Bit Torent specifically. In reality, there are those that do not bother with limiting the number of seeds they are hosting. -- We learn through the exchange of information, tell me more...... |
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 DogfatherPremium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA | Capping UPLOAD wouldn't limit people wanting to use IPTV. It kills the seeders who are saturating the upstream channels just 'cause they can. |
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