76580315
join:2007-12-16
Parker, CO
| reply to mogooder
Re: Ubiquiti Nano
13dB is the absolute lowest we would go on a CPE regardless of power levels. That's twice the gain of a 10dB. 10dB at a 60 degree beamwidth with 400mW has no place in our outdoor deployments. It would spread RF absolutely everywhere we don't want it. Does Ubiquiti think anything out before pulling the trigger.
I can see a great need for these in hotel / MDU deployments. That's a great beamwidth to be shooting down hall ways.
Can anyone else here see why you would want a 60 degree beamwidth for a client CPE? especially at 400mW. How much harder would it have been to use a 13dB? Sure, you wouldn't be able to use the Canopy look alike housing with a 13dB antenna.
Paul |
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superdog
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Lebanon, PA
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| said by 76580315  :13dB is the absolute lowest we would go on a CPE regardless of power levels. That's twice the gain of a 10dB. 10dB at a 60 degree beamwidth with 400mW has no place in our outdoor deployments. It would spread RF absolutely everywhere we don't want it. Can anyone else here see why you would want a 60 degree beamwidth for a client CPE? especially at 400mW. How much harder would it have been to use a 13dB? Sure, you wouldn't be able to use the Canopy look alike housing with a 13dB antenna. Paul I am going to agree with this. While I somehow think this unit was designed for more indoor installs than outdoor, this is way to much power in such a wide antenna. At 400mw, this unit is going to see EVERYTHING around it for quite a distance. In some of the places I am deploying CPE's, it would probably see at LEAST 30 AP's on a site survey because of the wide beam.
When deploying in areas like the one I just mentioned, it seems the only way to roll is with a very high gain antenna unit with very low power.
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76580315
join:2007-12-16
Parker, CO
| This may explain the small antenna. Europe has much lower EIRP limits. Also noticed there is no way to tilt without purchasing an additional tilt style pole mount.  |
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Stealthwave
join:2005-07-03
Alvin, TX | Just because it runs 400 mph don't mean it has to run 400 mph. The nice part is you can add your on antenna. You can't buy any outdoor cpe for 79 bucks. |
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gmcintire
Graham
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join:2005-08-09
Blue Ridge, TX
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April 11th, @10:43AM
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I have a few of the NS5 and NS2 an the way to test out, I'll post my results after I get them deployed.
said by superdog :At 400mw, this unit is going to see EVERYTHING around it for quite a distance. In some of the places I am deploying CPE's, it would probably see at LEAST 30 AP's on a site survey because of the wide beam. The transmit power on the unit doesn't have anything at all to do with its receive sensitivity. Conversely, the wide beamwidth can greatly contribute to picking up extra noise. |
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superdog
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| said by gmcintire :The transmit power on the unit doesn't have anything at all to do with its receive sensitivity. Conversely, the wide beamwidth can greatly contribute to picking up extra noise. I agree. 
Here again, the higher the power of the radio, the further the signal will travel, irregardless of its receive sensitivity. the more the signal travels, the more noise and other radios it will see.
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nevtxjustin
join:2006-04-18
Dallas, TX
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said by 76580315 :Does Ubiquiti think anything out before pulling the trigger. As in using a standard SMA connector instead of an FCC required non-standard connector, like Rev-SMA? How that thing got FCC certified is beyond me. |
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cmaenginsb
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join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA
| said by nevtxjustin :said by 76580315 :Does Ubiquiti think anything out before pulling the trigger. As in using a standard SMA connector instead of an FCC required non-standard connector, like Rev-SMA? How that thing got FCC certified is beyond me. The same way Redline,Tranzeo, Smartbridges and many others do. If you require professional installation you can be exempted from the non-standard connector requirement. |
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ponline
join:2004-03-04
presheva
| said by cmaenginsb :said by nevtxjustin :said by 76580315 :Does Ubiquiti think anything out before pulling the trigger. As in using a standard SMA connector instead of an FCC required non-standard connector, like Rev-SMA? How that thing got FCC certified is beyond me. The same way Redline,Tranzeo, Smartbridges and many others do. If you require professional installation you can be exempted from the non-standard connector requirement. LOL That's not good. Obviously I'm not that professional. 
I did a research about them, I did the order, I tested them for 5 days (without external antenna), and yet how stupid i was that I didn't read the specs carefully about the SMA connector.
Yesterday my installer was on a long distance link trying to get the link better signal attaching an external antenna, and off course all my pigtails until now was rev-sma, and the worst thing is they can be connected to the SMA, so he didn't notice that we have the wrong pigtail.
I was on the NOC checking the signal and he was aligning antennas. We lost about two hours, trying to figure why we get worst signal with external 29dbi antenna, replaced 2 antennas and 3 pigtails and same results. Olalaaa |
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