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Jovi

join:2000-02-24
Mount Joy, PA

Sad

Nothing anyone can say/do can make this to be a good thing for Comcast. It's messed up and then some. I wonder what they feared by the hundreds of people waiting to get in and say their peace? I thought all those million dollar attorney's could do anything.
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JSRoman
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edit:
February 26th, @04:57PM

It is a public meeting. Usually the only ones that ever go to these type of meeting are people to bitch about something. If your service is working fine than my guess they had no incentive to go to this meeting. Go to any city council meeting in any state and you will must likely see what am talking about. Kind of hard to have a fair meeting when all those attending in the crowd are active participants, one way or another.
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Jovi

join:2000-02-24
Mount Joy, PA

said by JSRoman See Profile :

It is a public meeting. Usually the only ones that ever go to these type of meeting are people to bitch about something. If your service is working fine than my guess they had no incentive to go to this meeting. Go to any city council meeting in any state and you will must likely see what am talking about. Kind of hard to have a fair meeting when all those attending in the crowd are active participantsone way or another.
So your saying that Comcast has a right to block people from speaking their mind in public hearing regardless? If the FCC actually spent time to set up a hearing, then it is pretty pointless to have a majority of a certain viewpoint represented. Comcast, as a single entity/corporation, is large enough to have a few individuals attend to speak for them.
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TK Junk Mail
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said by Jovi See Profile :

said by JSRoman See Profile :

It is a public meeting. Usually the only ones that ever go to these type of meeting are people to bitch about something. If your service is working fine than my guess they had no incentive to go to this meeting. Go to any city council meeting in any state and you will must likely see what am talking about. Kind of hard to have a fair meeting when all those attending in the crowd are active participantsone way or another.
So your saying that Comcast has a right to block people from speaking their mind in public hearing regardless? If the FCC actually spent time to set up a hearing, then it is pretty pointless to have a majority of a certain viewpoint represented. Comcast, as a single entity/corporation, is large enough to have a few individuals attend to speak for them.
Wise up. This is std practice for every politician running for office and all public meetings. Usually though, those clogging up public meetings are construction union workers and family members of the elected officials that push thru redevelopment projects in every township in America.
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JSRoman
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reply to Jovi
All reports so far are saying that Comcast rep. was drilled pretty hard by FCC and Congressional representatives. Nowhere in any report does it say that the other side couldn't have done the same thing and we will never know because no one asked.

So you would have preferred a meeting filled with people from the other side that would have standing ovation every time someone made pointed remark about Comcast.

Rules don't change just because it is Comcast.
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Jovi

join:2000-02-24
Mount Joy, PA

reply to TK Junk Mail
said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

said by Jovi See Profile :

said by JSRoman See Profile :

It is a public meeting. Usually the only ones that ever go to these type of meeting are people to bitch about something. If your service is working fine than my guess they had no incentive to go to this meeting. Go to any city council meeting in any state and you will must likely see what am talking about. Kind of hard to have a fair meeting when all those attending in the crowd are active participantsone way or another.
So your saying that Comcast has a right to block people from speaking their mind in public hearing regardless? If the FCC actually spent time to set up a hearing, then it is pretty pointless to have a majority of a certain viewpoint represented. Comcast, as a single entity/corporation, is large enough to have a few individuals attend to speak for them.
Wise up. This is std practice for every politician running for office and all public meetings. Usually though, those clogging up public meetings are construction union workers and family members of the elected officials that push thru redevelopment projects in every township in America.
I consider myself quite wise actually. Just because it's commonplace, doesn't make it right my friend.
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Shack

join:2002-01-17
Bloomington, IN
Well said ethics are sorely lacking in American business and politics. Just because it is the norm, does not mean it is ok.


RangerTX
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Los Angeles, CA

reply to TK Junk Mail
said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

said by Jovi See Profile :

said by JSRoman See Profile :

It is a public meeting. Usually the only ones that ever go to these type of meeting are people to bitch about something. If your service is working fine than my guess they had no incentive to go to this meeting. Go to any city council meeting in any state and you will must likely see what am talking about. Kind of hard to have a fair meeting when all those attending in the crowd are active participantsone way or another.
So your saying that Comcast has a right to block people from speaking their mind in public hearing regardless? If the FCC actually spent time to set up a hearing, then it is pretty pointless to have a majority of a certain viewpoint represented. Comcast, as a single entity/corporation, is large enough to have a few individuals attend to speak for them.
Wise up. This is std practice for every politician running for office and all public meetings. Usually though, those clogging up public meetings are construction union workers and family members of the elected officials that push thru redevelopment projects in every township in America.
Compact paid them to be their. They hired them, this is not standard practice.

nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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reply to JSRoman
said by JSRoman See Profile :

...

So you would have preferred a meeting filled with people from the other side that would have standing ovation every time someone made pointed remark about Comcast...
I think MOST of us would have preferred a meeting that was not rigged by comcast.

and that's what they did - rig the meeting. for one to suggest that this is in any way appropriate behavior indicates they have suspect ethics or are awfully gullible.

yeah, others may do similar things, but as mentioned earlier, that doesn't make it right.

should be no question now - comcast is one of the evil corporations.


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February 26th, @07:14PM

reply to JSRoman
said by JSRoman See Profile :

All reports so far are saying that Comcast rep. was drilled pretty hard by FCC and Congressional representatives. Nowhere in any report does it say that the other side couldn't have done the same thing and we will never know because no one asked.
Bzzzt. Wrongo, bucko.

said by Conde Nast Portfolio :
Free Press had been trying to organize supporters to attend the hearing by issuing press releases and circulating flyers advertising the event.

Unlike Comcast, Free Press did not pay anyone to stand in line, Aaron said, nor did it provide transportation to any of its supporters.
http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/top-5/2008/02/26/Comcast-FCC-Hearing-Strategy
said by JSRoman See Profile :

So you would have preferred a meeting filled with people from the other side that would have standing ovation every time someone made pointed remark about Comcast.
You obviously didn't attend or listen to the meeting audio. Quite frankly, the audience participation was quite polite. There was polite applause for all of the presenters (except for Comcast's presentation, which brought applause so abnormally loud it might have brought the house down).

Other than that, the audience basically let the meeting happen, with maybe 4-5 spontaneous bursts of applause throughout the day after a presenter (on either side) made a particularly popular point.

said by JSRoman See Profile :

Rules don't change just because it is Comcast.
No, I don't suppose that they do. But it's good to get the facts out so that people can know how clean or slimy the company is behaving throughout this inquiry.
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reply to RangerTX
said by RangerTX See Profile :

Comcast paid them to be there. They hired them, this is not standard practice.
No, it's not standard practice -- but is it "reasonable network management?"


TScheisskopf
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reply to TK Junk Mail
Having been to a few of those meetings myself, all I saw was developers and their lawyers, lying through their teeth all too often.

But I suppose if you see an opening to slam someone and something on idealogical grounds, why not take it, right?

You are quite predictable.


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said by TScheisskopf See Profile :

Having been to a few of those meetings myself, all I saw was developers and their lawyers, lying through their teeth all too often.
Since that's all you saw, perhaps you can give one specific example?
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Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon
"We don't throttle any traffic," -Charlie Douglas, Comcast spokesman, on this report.

JSRoman
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reply to nasadude
said by nasadude See Profile :

said by JSRoman See Profile :

...

So you would have preferred a meeting filled with people from the other side that would have standing ovation every time someone made pointed remark about Comcast...
I think MOST of us would have preferred a meeting that was not rigged by comcast.

and that's what they did - rig the meeting. for one to suggest that this is in any way appropriate behavior indicates they have suspect ethics or are awfully gullible.

yeah, others may do similar things, but as mentioned earlier, that doesn't make it right.

should be no question now - comcast is one of the evil corporations.
How was the meeting rigged? The audience wasn't the ones asking the question.
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TScheisskopf
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Belvidere, NJ
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reply to funchords
Sure. Right here where I live. A developer and his lawyer making all sorts of promises, like a new ladder truck for the fire department and a senior center for the town, while making wild accusations against the town attorney, a man of impeccable ethics.

He got all the approvals he needed, with an ease that was stunning. And the financing. Oh yes, the financing. He has not turned one shovel-full of earth or hammered one nail.

It was a big project too. No union members were seen for miles, at any time. For all the building that took place out here, until the market tanked, the unions were never an issue. In fact, you can probably make a better ideological aside about undocumented aliens, when talking about the building trades around here. Them developers sure do love them some undocumented aliens.

But we weren't talking about me, originally. Were we?


jt66

@comcast.net

reply to nasadude
Re: Sad

so is it wrong for a company to hold a few spots for there co workers. i would like to know how many people were payed to be there by comcast. if it was only two or three people no big deal. now if they filled half the room up with people they paid to be there, that is wrong.


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Robb
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reply to TScheisskopf
Oh, No! Sorry. I was confused. I thought you were saying that "all I saw was developers and their lawyers, lying through their teeth all too often" at the FCC meeting.

I listened to the whole meeting, and what I heard didn't jive with what you said -- that's why I asked. I didn't mean to challenge you about anything other than the FCC meeting.
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"We don't throttle any traffic," -Charlie Douglas, Comcast spokesman, on this report.


TScheisskopf
World News Trust

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Belvidere, NJ
Ok, Robb. No probs. I just wanted to make sure that you didn't think I was entering a dogfight with a Big Wheel.
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