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TKJunkMail
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 Verizon never competed on price

Their ace in the hole as far as I am concerned is their network coverage. Living in the Mid-Atlantic region, their network coverage was always way better than AT&T(nee Cingular), Sprint, and T-Mobile. I initially tried AT&T, and their coverage in the areas I frequented was horrible. A friend had Sprint and complained constantly. And my sister and her family had T-Mobile(my nephew worked for them) and they constantly were dropping calls. So, when the time came, Verizon was the only reasonable choice. A cheap plan is worthless if the calls are being dropped.
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Granted, what everyone fails to mention is that the providers generally sign roaming contracts with one another, so that sprint phone may have actually worked on Verizon's network if your friend did a PRL update (if ever).

As it stands right now, I can force-roam my 30/month Sprint SERO phone on Verizon and use the same "gold-standard" network (which honestly is underwhelming for me) and EvDo 3G data, for cheaper.

The FCC is going to change the laws regarding what information if any the carriers are forced to report on what specifically the PRLs contain, as well as street-level signal quality data that fits industry-wide specification. We're talking street level SNR data instead of worthless three-gradation (excellent good poor) maps. As soon as we get that, we can stop having anecdotal "my network is better than yours because of X" arguments and really sit down and figure out who is better where. Nobody is best everywhere, and the sooner that's public domain information, the better. As far as I'm concerned, anecdotal evidence is pointless, it's why I did my own site-survey in the areas I care about (work, home, frequent places) by flashing the PRLs of all the CDMA carriers on my old XV6700 HTC Apache (while using my HTC Mogul as my live phone). It's a sad state when the customer has to do this to get the nitty gritty on what "best," "great," and "good," mean on the provider signal-map.
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TKJunkMail
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Wasn't there a thread a while ago where carriers(and I don't know if Sprint does this) were dropping users who roamed too much?


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There was one rather heinous example where Sprint was dropping some people who were roaming overseas too much (they were soldiers if memory serves me), but I'm not concerned in the least.

At the very least, Sprint doesn't have transparent bitcaps on data usage like Verizon does. I tether my phone every day to whatever I want, I've done way more traffic than should be humanly possible over my HTC Mogul.
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You'll see that in just about every contract. Use more than "most" of your minutes outside your home market and they can (1) terminate the account, (2) charge per-minute/kilobyte fees and/or (3) switch you to a more expensive plan.
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it all depends on your area. usually verizon was pretty good but then i switched to t mobile since i couldnt get any coverage at my new place and tmobile was the only one. so it all depends on your area.

now verizon did copy sprint and offer the plan setting a price used before for unlimited. Att copied then tmobile. They have higher margins on data so they upped the overage charges and they compensate and make a killing.
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jammmin

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reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Their ace in the hole as far as I am concerned is their network coverage. Living in the Mid-Atlantic region, their network coverage was always way better than AT&T(nee Cingular), Sprint, and T-Mobile. I initially tried AT&T, and their coverage in the areas I frequented was horrible. A friend had Sprint and complained constantly. And my sister and her family had T-Mobile(my nephew worked for them) and they constantly were dropping calls. So, when the time came, Verizon was the only reasonable choice. A cheap plan is worthless if the calls are being dropped.
I echo those sentiments

itguy05

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Camp Hill, PA

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Their ace in the hole as far as I am concerned is their network coverage. Living in the Mid-Atlantic region, their network coverage was always way better than AT&T(nee Cingular), Sprint, and T-Mobile.
I live in the same region (PA) and visit N. NJ quite often. AT&T's network is superior to Verizon's. I know - I have both - AT&T personally and Verizon for work. AT&T has better call quality and drops less often than Verizon.... Try holding a call on the PA turnpike from Harrisburg to Philly on Verizon. You WILL drop at least once, usually twice. On AT&T I can yap the whole way...

Verizon does have great marketing though - say your the best long enough and people will blindly believe you.

rgillis70
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