 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to cornelius785
Re: wow Well, lets say that there's a new company out there, pushing HD IPTV . All I need is an Internet connection. Now should my TV service over the Internet be capped because I don't want to pay for Comcast TV service ?
I've downloaded a few Linux DVD ISO images, on DSL, and have never had any issues (we're talking many GB here). If I'm paying for a 6Mbps line, I should be able to use it.
The cable model is based on high speed bursts, not sustained high end downloads / uploads due to the shared nature. They shouldn't oversell a node. Comcast even described this in their FCC statement yesterday. What sort of sucks is that its on a node by node basis where the issue occurs. You could be on a node with no traffic and consume almost as much as possible, while being on a node with a few high consumption neighbors, your status would degrade.
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en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to BabyBear
That's why I'm not on AT&T... but DSL-Extreme 
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en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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I don't have any real issues with CAPS/throttling, as long as
A) I know the actual limit of MY usage before being capped/throttled.
B) My consumption limit isn't based on a neighborhood usage., but my usage.
C) All the cards are on the table BEFORE I sign up for service.
I've been thinking about migrating to Cable (TW here) for a package deal, or even AT&T, however, I use this line for business, and I don't want some corp. bean counter deciding for me that I can't run certain apps, or that I can't use a specific amount of bandwidth per month, or specific time of day.
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he didn't say they would get ride of teh cap. they will just increase the cap some. everytime they increase there speed they have increase there cap a little but it is alway there. |
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I do..... And so does any other web 2.0 developer.
We are tried of having to compress and lower the quality of our stuff so people with slow connections don't have to wait 10 minutes for the web app to load.
Once this, or even 10mbps starts to become the norm, you are going too see a exposition in the quality of the way websites look. |
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 EGThe wings of lovePremium
join:2006-11-18
Union, NJ
kudos:9 | reply to fAcEtIOUs
Any tangible evidence ??? |
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en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to dlewis23
Agreed.. here's the 'issue'
A) DSL = lower bit rate, but typically you will hit your max w/o issue (eg. ADSL 6-7Mbps, VDSL at 10Mbps). Typically a better QoS on DSL, IMO.
B) Cable 6-25Mbps, slow downs during peak usage, but for bursty transmissions, and less distance limitations, Cable works well.
Think of DSL as token ring, and Cable as ethernet with a hub (not switch).
Unless I'm mistaken HD uncompressed is 19.2Mbps, and unless there's a queuing mechanism, I don't think you'll be having decently streamed HD over the internet for a while w/o buffering
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I CHALLENGE your assertion. If right now, they 'kick' someone for over 200GB of usage on a 6/768 connection, and now they offer 50/50 connections, do you really thing they won't bounce you until you hit 1.8TB of data? I mean, if they increased the caps as much as they increased the speeds, I sure as hell wouldn't bother to buy the higher speed, I'd stick with my 6/768 connection an use 1.5TB per month safely. Caps, and they DO exist, will most certainly NOT go up.
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 gaforcesUnited We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
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Who installed the switches and maintaines them for DSL Extreme? And where are they located? 
Who's network does it go through?
Im kind of in the same situation, my packets go through ATT network and they could look if they wanted. I have no doubt about that.
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en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | True - everything goes through AT&T CO.
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What's the point of claiming they are going to provide (insert speed here) when they refuse to upgrade the cable system they own in your area so you can even have broadband?
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quatrixPremium
join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL
kudos:2 | reply to en102
Re: wow Your transfers happen faster. Not everyone needs faster speeds for the purpose of downloading a greater quantity. And considering what the majority of people who oppose caps use their connections for, they don't deserve it anyway. |
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syrkel2
join:2003-12-02
Galesburg, IL | reply to ih8aol
yeah I agree. I just switched form insight to comcast in Illinois here and insight was she shiznit. I cant remember the last time that insight internet went down. and it was so fast too. |
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are you guys retarded, i pay comcast for a 16mbps connection, and i consitently get 14-15, maybe you should clean out your computers instead of complaining like little girls |
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 hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium
join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
kudos:1 | said by viggent5 :
are you guys retarded, i pay comcast for a 16mbps connection, and i consitently get 14-15, maybe you should clean out your computers instead of complaining like little girls
So you are one of the lucky ones. Are you saying that everyone that has speed issues has infected computers? pffttt!
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Verizon Verizon has a great product, for now. But their customer service sucks out loud. I have fios 20 over 5. I have Comcast phone service. I have tv with Comcast because fios tv is not available in our town as the town & Verizon cannot agree on a contract. When I try to contact Verizon about my fios service their voice queue keeps asking for my telephone number. In my opinion, Verizon maintains a culture of arrogance as AT&T did of yore.
Comcast sucks too but less.
So I am a whore for the fastest product, which, at the present time, is Fios. But when 50 over 50 comes down the pike I will be on it in a heartbeat. |
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join:2008-04-20
Philadelphia, PA | reply to en102
Re: wow You fail to realize that along with the faster and bigger bus uplinks they are deploying from Nortel DOCSIS 3.0 allows them to bond frequencies to allow for the rise of caps. In 4 years of working for comcast in NJ, DE, and PA I have seen one customer get "the call" for excessive use, and he was later prosecuted for software pirating. |
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